Leopardus Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 3 hours ago, DJ KACEY said: Y'all tell me what point of playing the game if no fucking update and what hell is going on here too There seems a logic problem in your question. Why did you even join the game if you see no point in it and you only value updates which are not yet part of it? You have blown my mind with the paradox created. It should be the basis of a new sci-fi movie. Xizi, Leeloo, Diana Prince and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Prince Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Leopardus said: There seems a logic problem in your question. Why did you even join the game if you see no point in it and you only value updates which are not yet part of it? You have blown my mind with the paradox created. It should be the basis of a new sci-fi movie. And there are even no updates included in the price of the subscription. If the devs do give us updates: fine. If not, nobody can complain. Nobody is forced to play the game. I for myself, get very good value for my money out of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derai Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Anaganda said: But truth of the matter is 3dx is a home made game that's maintained by one developer and his sidekick... And we have to dream according to that. 3DX is in essence, a very polished Indie Game. There is no 'Studio' developing this, it's the equivalent of one person running it from their garage. Or so it appears. We should be happy that the game exists at all, and not jinx it by being to demanding or Toxic(Looking at some here, you know who you are.) If a vocal minority annoys the Devs so much that they decide to say 'fuck it' and close it all, there's nothing we can do. In any way. Diana Prince, Arran, JackPine and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arran Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) Sigh... Again toxic and anyone who can't wait for update lol... WTF? Don't you have friend in 3dx? Have fun and djing? Chatting and Laugh? Enjoy? There are so many things in 3dx lol... I am really relax and chilling much, having enjoying so much chatting friends and laugh lol Don't you have some in real life stuff?? If you can't wait anymore, go play another game.... And don't get me wrong, ofc I want come a big update in game, but I can wait.. there are another so much fun.. friends.. chatting.. etc... So now.. Deal with it Edited April 11, 2021 by Arran Leeloo, JackPine, Diana Prince and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackPine Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 In a week my avatar celebrates his 1st 3DX birthday. A lot has changed since that day 355 days ago. No, maybe not the game so much, but what has is so much richer. The relationships forged, the fun times had, the experiences shared. This happened because of this place, and I would not trade that for anything. In no small part this 'game' helped me survive this year like no other. I will welcome an update, but I would rather welcome you to share time with me. That is what l embrace! ColinDude, Leopardus, Anaganda and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelqueen Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 12 hours ago, Diana Prince said: And there are even no updates included in the price of the subscription. If the devs do give us updates: fine. If not, nobody can complain. Nobody is forced to play the game. I for myself, get very good value for my money out of the game. I love your arguments because you often make sense of things ... but you see it worse now. Yes, we only pay for the game by default, because it is not stated that updates are mandatory. BUT you also know that we’ve paid the multiple price of an A + category game over the years, and there are online games in the gaming industry for which you pay a monthly fee, yet you get serious updates on a regular basis. Why? Because that’s the point of monthly fee games: they buy your attention and money with updates. Because if there is no improvement they lose attention and the players go away, then the rest goes away because the game is empty. So explicitly or implicitly, but you pay for the updates ... and if you already pay ... you get something for it. Gizmos gets the money ... but he doesn't even bother to have teasers and / or make regular and detailed communication.Gizmo's only great luck is that his game is unique ... both in appearance and operation ... but otherwise he would have long lost much of his player base with this attitude. This game is supposed to explode in the market because of its uniqueness ... it doesn’t even happen that way. I'm not at all surprised by this ... Twiggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelqueen Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Arran said: Sigh... Again toxic and anyone who can't wait for update lol... WTF? Don't you have friend in 3dx? Have fun and djing? Chatting and Laugh? Enjoy? There are so many things in 3dx lol... I am really relax and chilling much, having enjoying so much chatting friends and laugh lol Don't you have some in real life stuff?? If you can't wait anymore, go play another game.... And don't get me wrong, ofc I want come a big update in game, but I can wait.. there are another so much fun.. friends.. chatting.. etc... So now.. Deal with it This is the attitude that makes Gizmo not at all trying to release updates ... why bother with it if it doesn’t excite players. There are some bastards who are rebelling, but there are those who are quenching the mood, there will be no problem here for half a year. What if he released a few small updates a month until he make the big bang? There are quality fan materials ... I know from several sources that they would be available to Gizmo. Many times for FREE ... BUT if he don't issue an update every month ... he can't communicate with us every week? Can't make a teaser so we can dream? But yes, he could do it! Still shit on the whole thing ... because he knows, he can do it without consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaganda Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Angelqueen said: There are some bastards who are rebelling to all the cool "bastards" who want to rebel... here's a tip, if you really want to be a rebel and put pressure then do it where it has a meaning. unsubscribe and put pressure where it hurts. blabbing over and over means nothing and will accomplish nothing as long as you just wag your tongue and still pay. Edited April 12, 2021 by Anaganda Xizi, Derai and alex9110 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Prince Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Angelqueen said: Gizmo's only great luck is that his game is unique ... both in appearance and operation ... but otherwise he would have long lost much of his player base with this attitude. This game is supposed to explode in the market because of its uniqueness ... it doesn’t even happen that way. I'm not at all surprised by this ... This is the the point ^^ Let's all be honest: if you would get around 50.000 to 70.000$ per month, no matter if you get out of bed in the morning or not, would you work hard every day or stay in bed more often than not? You can believe, if there were real competition for 3DXC, it would get updates much more often. Veronique and Derai 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arran Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Why do you care about Update so much? Wtf? Can't you leave this and have fun with friends? @Angelqueen which is important Big Update game or Friends? Derai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiggy Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) I wonder what the game would be like if it was not for the people that came in these forums complaining about the lack of content, updates and what was being included in the updates we did get. Will we have had the room editor, I doubt it as that took a lot of so called complaining and pushing in these forums to get that. Will we have had DJing in our rooms, doubtful as again that took a lot of pushing and complaining to get that to. I know that as I was one the people constantly coming in these forums so called complaining and pushing for those 2 things. If I and the others that did all that pushing had listened to all those saying stop complaining likely Gizmo will have thought, well everyone is happy why do any work. What do you think would give him more incentive, people who say they are happy with what they have or people suggesting what is needed. I think that Gizmo isn't working very hard and at least part of the reason for that is there are so many willing to complain about people complaining about the lack of content and updates. So many who want to say we should all be happy with what we have and things like we don't pay for updates. Updates are a part of any online game, why should 3DXChat be any different. It is not a question of should we expect updates but more a question on how many we should expect and what is in them. Trends in the game should be recognised and catered for and for some time now they have not. You can be happy with what you have to do in the game, mainly if you are a builder or a DJ or just in the game for sex. But if for what ever reason you don't want to build, host or DJ and you want more out the game than just sex then there isn't much there. Gizmo has done a fairly good job for people who want to build, host events or DJ, but he is still failing to much for anyone else. Mostly for everyone else it is the friendships they make in the game that keep them going back in. If it wasn't for that it is likely the game would not have survived. Which to me is a fail, a game where most people stay because of the friends they have made is not a great rap for the game itself. Yes there is not really any competition for him at the moment, but is that really an excuse we should accept for the lack of attention to the game. Is it really a good excuse for treating his paying customers the way he does. I don't think so. Edited April 12, 2021 by Twiggy Derai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomme Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) thank you for your selflessness. this forum needs you to make this game evolve. upgrades are important like maintenance to allow us the best social, creation, porn experience. a big thank you to gizmo for developing a unique game of its kind. Edited April 12, 2021 by pomme Gizmo and Derai 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derai Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) I agree that we have every right to complain. About the lack of updates. Lack of communication. And lack of explanation about the reasons Why we are left hanging. That’s our right as paying consumers to complain and ask for clarification from the content provider. I do feel however that we as customers have to stay respectful. Just a common decency really. Just my thoughts on it. Edited April 12, 2021 by Derai Leopardus, Torax, Gizmo and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiggy Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Derai said: I do feel however that we as customers have stay respectful. Just a common decency really. Just my thoughts on it. I agree, some of the people who complain do go overboard and get really insulting. But also some of the people complaining about the people complaining get very insulting and disrespectful as well. Often to people who don't deserve it. Diana Prince 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Prince Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 And in the end, we all want the same. We all love 3DXC and want to see it grow and evolve. Builders would love to have more functions (importing pics e.g.). DJs maybe want more flexibility in their streams. Dance groups would be happy about a sync function for more than 3 people. Some players would enjoy mini games like pool or darts. And so on. But no matter how often we plea and argue, we are all dependent on Gizmo's goodwill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derai Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Twiggy said: I agree, some of the people who complain do go overboard and get really insulting. But also some of the people complaining about the people complaining get very insulting and disrespectful as well. Often to people who don't deserve it. Very true. There is another element to consider too. We here talking about it on the forums are just a loud minority of the total player base. Even if all of us packed up and left. It would just be a drop in the bucket revenue wise. Diana Prince 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiggy Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Derai said: Very true. There is another element to consider too. We here talking about it on the forums are just a loud minority of the total player base. Even if all of us packed up and left. It would just be a drop in the bucket revenue wise. This forum gets about 2,000 visits a day, yes most don't participate but I think it does have a lot more influence than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derai Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Twiggy said: This forum gets about 2,000 visits a day, yes most don't participate but I think it does have a lot more influence than you think. You have a good point. I went of of the posting folks. Failed to consider the silent readers. Point conceded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torax Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Derai said: I agree that we have every right to complain. About the lack of updates. Lack of communication. And lack of explanation about the reasons Why we are left hanging. That’s our right as paying consumers to complain and ask for clarification from the content provider. I do feel however that we as customers have to stay respectful. Just a common decency really. Just my thoughts on it. I agree with the above fully. I just keep thinking we may ask too much compared to what they really can do. They need skills ,money and time to do updates. And I feel for good or bad reason they dont have them, or dont wont to use them. Some say they are just lazy and taking the money and that is it, some can say they just dont have the skills or team to do all this. I personally don't know and believe it is somewhere in the middle. I guess if they were honest once for all (I am not saying they werent honest before), and state clearly what they can do or not, like saying "hey guys we are small so dont expect more than 2 updates per year" then people would know what to expect or not. Also they did some communication mistakes, especially with pose editor, they didnt promise it, but they raised high expectation in the community and let it drop. I am no dev but if they are only 2 behind this game, well, I think they do a correct job for what it is. I wish they are more to get more, but a team of 2 to manage a game with a "broken code" is not that bad :x Derai and Diana Prince 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ JAYDEN Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, Torax said: I agree with the above fully. I just keep thinking we may ask too much compared to what they really can do. They need skills ,money and time to do updates. And I feel for good or bad reason they dont have them, or dont wont to use them. Some say they are just lazy and taking the money and that is it, some can say they just dont have the skills or team to do all this. I personally don't know and believe it is somewhere in the middle. I guess if they were honest once for all (I am not saying they werent honest before), and state clearly what they can do or not, like saying "hey guys we are small so dont expect more than 2 updates per year" then people would know what to expect or not. Also they did some communication mistakes, especially with pose editor, they didnt promise it, but they raised high expectation in the community and let it drop. I am no dev but if they are only 2 behind this game, well, I think they do a correct job for what it is. I wish they are more to get more, but a team of 2 to manage a game with a "broken code" is not that bad :x I totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaganda Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) Complaining and criticizing is one thing... Moaning over and over is another. Speaking for my self... Yes I want the game to be better, yes I complain and will continue to complain when I see things I don't like... Yes the game is la king, Giz l's performance and communication is below acceptable. My sarcasm is pointed at some of the people who act like freedom fighters who have some sort of a god given quest. Edited April 12, 2021 by Anaganda Xizi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Angelqueen said: I love your arguments because you often make sense of things ... but you see it worse now. Yes, we only pay for the game by default, because it is not stated that updates are mandatory. BUT you also know that we’ve paid the multiple price of an A + category game over the years, and there are online games in the gaming industry for which you pay a monthly fee, yet you get serious updates on a regular basis. Why? Because that’s the point of monthly fee games: they buy your attention and money with updates. Because if there is no improvement they lose attention and the players go away, then the rest goes away because the game is empty. So explicitly or implicitly, but you pay for the updates ... and if you already pay ... you get something for it. Gizmos gets the money ... but he doesn't even bother to have teasers and / or make regular and detailed communication.Gizmo's only great luck is that his game is unique ... both in appearance and operation ... but otherwise he would have long lost much of his player base with this attitude. This game is supposed to explode in the market because of its uniqueness ... it doesn’t even happen that way. I'm not at all surprised by this ... It's not correct to compare 3dxchat with single player games or non-adult games, at least money-wise, because they are not competing with each other. You can't substitute 3dxchat's experience by playing some AAA single game, because it single and not adult. You can't properly substitute 3dxchat experience by playing MMORPG, yes it's online, social to some degree and even have some ERP communities in some games, but it does not have sex, parties and all the stuff we like here. You can't even substitute 3dxchat with some single player lewd game from steam – because its lacking communication with other people. The only type of games that can substitute 3dxchat and with which 3dxchat really competes are other online sex and social venues. And compared to them 3dxchat is pretty cheap if we talk about amount and quality of content we getting for the money we pay, at least if pay early. Even without 50% sale. With 50% sale it's cheap even if pay monthly. Don't get me wrong, I am not one of the people who going to say like 50-100$ is nothing and all, for some people it's sure a lot, we all live in different countries, in different social and economic environment, but 3dxchat is cheap COMPARED to the games it competes with. I know only one other online sex game like 3dxchat where you can just pay subscription and get all the content just by playing it. It costs relatively close to 3dxchat (though does not have the same sales) but surprise - it has even less updates, it has a really small playerbase, characters look worse and it has less content in general. All other games I tried required you to pay for ingame content. While also requiring premium subscription to have a proper game experience. So you basically pay about the same price you pay for 3dxchat to get premium and then, on top of it, you pay for clothes/poses/body customization/house etc. And they are old and have worse graphics as well. That's actually the reason why people staying here even if they are angry about slow updates and often bad or lacking communication. Because even with all its problems 3dxchat is still much better than its competitors and relatively cheap (again, if comparing to competitors). Derai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackPine Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Many valid points here, which I hope is being read by those that develop this game. As I travel this place and get to know more and more people, I have managed to find my way into some circles of longer term players. There are quite a number of you. Many of you must be satisfied with the game or know this is the best we got. In large part, you are the ones building, sharing, making this world always newer and fun to explore. Thank you! Would I like more content? Sure! Would I like improved, expanded editor compatibilities? Of course! I suppose I could be part of this perceived problem because I am about to renew my subscription for another year, regardless of the number of updates. For me, as long as you are here, I can't see myself anywhere else. Diana Prince and Derai 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☙𝔼𝕩❧ Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Anaganda said: Moaning over and over is another. This is a sexual action Xizi, JackPine, Anaganda and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackPine Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Anaganda said: Moaning over and over is another. 44 minutes ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said: This is a sexual action This one left my side hurting from laughing! Thanks, Ex! Derai and ☙𝔼𝕩❧ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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