Upcoming Updates Discussion

[Anaganda]

3 minutes ago, Ross said:

they asked for it for years here, not discord. they dont care what forum folks want

haha... true.... but I heard that they took away people's ability to ask for stuff on discord lately, apparently all you can do there is say yes or no to what's graciously offered 

Edited October 24, 2019 by Anaganda

[☙𝔼𝕩❧]

1 minute ago, Atalas said:

You really want to pick this bet up against me? you would lose it :))

Maybe I am such a dreamer, but I trust they will do this for everyone :))

[Xizi]

Well, you can't deny that:

1. Devs actually read the forum (I don't mean every post in every thread of course!) and actually take some ideas/requests from here. We already had a few examples of it.

2. They pretty actively work on the game lately. 

 

[Anaganda]

non is denying that... and I hope this trend continues...

my point was, that there's no reason to waste time on a poll for something that has been requested multiple times already

[☙𝔼𝕩❧]

2 minutes ago, Anaganda said:

non is denying that... and I hope this trend continues...

my point was, that there's no reason to waste time on a poll for something that has been requested multiple times already

mere formality for the future.

[THX]

18 hours ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

Keks did new stockings. Another user content. Surprised in a good way. 

 

I've seen things Kek did in Curio. Talent there for sure. Great asset for 3DX.

 

I could be wrong, but that looks like it's a texture added to an existing mesh. I wonder if they are providing the UV maps to some also.

If 3DX is opening up User created content, these would be the first steps towards it. Expect a flood of content if all goes well.

Edited October 25, 2019 by THX

[Twiggy]

On 10/24/2019 at 12:20 PM, Atalas said:

Well this is why. Since as you said first and foremost is a sex game. So unless you like to treat it more like a social platform, is completely normal for those people with or without having a feminine leaning, create a female avi for more options to have porn on the screen, larger pool of options, customizations, updates, so on, they can even keep their cock or switch to pussy at will. That is why they do it. It's simply easy choice. with or without a feminine leaning in a porn game where most stuff are available for one gender. Now before we talked about how fair or unfair that is towards -trasgender, gay or straight female community-, having straight males barging in their safe space "pretending to be females". To which I replied that is perfectly normal, to most of those people, even if we don't like it, if the social part is just a secondary fluff, since it's a porn game first of all, as long as the development of the game facilitates female avi mostly. In that case really there is nothing to complain about from the TG or female side sharing the space with a large majority of straight dudes having porn on their screen making use of the best possible tools for that. It's bang for the buck. That's all.

Also among the reasons why the devs should focus from now on updating the male avi side with regular patches, clothing and so on. The part where the game realy feels like playing that gender is like the trial version, with completely cut down ingame content or even future plans in patches, and for the premium part go make a futa.

While I agree with a lot of things you are saying I think you need to rethink what it actually means to be a women playing the game, especially when it comes to having to share our gender. Yes the combined hetero, lesbian and futa poses well out do those of hetero sexual male poses, but if you match them up against the separated genders that are combined under female it becomes a completely different story. Lesbian poses are then well under what hetero sexual men have and us hetero sexual women have only a few more solo poses than you do. For every hetero sexual M/F pose we have you have the same. And the big thing you do not have to put up with is having doubt over your real gender, being put in a category where you are assumed to be most likely not a woman. So I strongly disagree where you say that us women have nothing to complain about in sharing the space with a lot of straight dudes playing as females. I won't even get into the problems it causes us as I have said so many times in these forums. I will just say we have plenty to complain about and are just in all of them.

I 1st started in the game before it became 2 years old back in 2014, back then there wasn't that much difference in the amount of clothes between males and females, and from what I was told at the start of the game women actual had less than men, all they had was underwear. Poses were always fairly evenly done between male and female, but were almost all for hetero sexual. It wasn't until the introduction of the futas where it started becoming more for the 3DXChat female. And I say 3DXChat female as females in 3DXChat do not represent females. Even before the cock addon to female avis was introduced, which came a long time before the lesbians got the strap on, the amount of female avis that were controlled by males was still much higher than actual females. New guys coming into the game still found it hard to even get any 3DXChat female to even answer a pm or interact with them as most were actually men playing as females. Lots would get told to create a female avi as it makes it easier to get in on the action. It had very little to do with how many poses or clothes that were available.

We have asked lots of times for a 3rd gender to be added and if one was then I know that the female avis remaining could get lots less than any gender when it comes to updates, reason being is we would be the minority, but I would much rather that than what we have now where we do not have our own gender.

[Xizi]

2 hours ago, Atalas said:

I agree with the reasoning behind the 3th gender and makes all sense to me. I would support your idea entirely, about adding the so called futa as a third gender, and not as an option for female avi.

The problem here that there are exist roleplayers who like to play as hermaphrodites, having and using both penis and vagina, and also the ones who use penis or vagina based on their mood/RP scene. I don't know exact numbers or percentage of such a players but can say that I saw a lot of them (well, in absolute numbers, it's for sure not a big percentage of user base) during the around a year I play the game. 
So I would suggest leave the option to grow a cock for females, but:

1. Move the poses in which girl is with penis/strapon in separate category from the regular vaginal/anal/oral poses with a male or oral poses with another girl to escape a confusion.

2. Actually add a third gender to the game, that will permanently have a cock and balls but no pussy and therefore no vaginal poses (receiving ones I mean). A lot of males playing female avi would transfer to this gender probably anyway, because even if some "futa" uses both genitalia, the majority are just play as shemales. And therefore it will be a lot less percentage of rl males playing as a female avi. Tho I would suggest making such a transfer free of charge at least for a first month or couple after adding a third gender, because if not – some will stay as females because if females still have a cock – these players can stay on their female avi just to not pay xgold.

Personally I would love an adding of third gender even if it would go with taking away a cock option for female avis, but knowing that there are people who used to play as hermaphrodites and do it already for months/years – it would create problem and drama. 

But anyway... It all just a talk. Sadly, I am very doubt that devs will ever add a third gender in 3dxchat because community mostly against it. And I honestly can't get why it's so, maybe because they think that it's waste of developers' resources to spend time on it, but well... Adding a third gender would be better if not for all, than for vast majority of players for sure, including the ones who play as shemales. It really would be bad only for ones who play as a hermaphrodites or RP as some fantasy creatures (with ability to grow/remove cock), or RP with/without cock basing on their mood. But even if it is quite an amount of these players – they are minority even in futa community and adding third gender would affect them badly ONLY if it would be added together with removing of a cock option for female avis, which is not mandatory.

But... For some reason people just don't want it. And seems like Gizmo and Lisa don't want it too – I asked to move my topic https://3dxforum.com/index.php?/topic/8896-adding-a-third-gender-to-the-game/ from the open forum to development & suggestions section – but got no answer at all. 

 

[Humanity]

i got the feeling that lootboxes are incomin

[Yvonny]

30 minutes ago, Humanity said:

i got the feeling that lootboxes are incomin

That would make the game  unplayable in Belgium

[Xizi]

42 minutes ago, DMitch76 said:

Because science says only two exist, no such thing as a third gender.  You're welcome. 

1. Two sexes – maybe (tho I am not even so sure about it, there is a very small percentage of hermaphrodites irl). But sex and gender are not the same thing fyi. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46067559

2. It does not even really matter. It can be 2, 3 or 50 genders irl (or better to say in society because it can really vary). We are talking about the game, not a real life. There are also no orcs or demons, or girls that can grow the cock and balls instead of pussy, then remove it and then grow again irl. Tho all of these and many more you can see in 3dxchat. 

 

[Xizi]

12 minutes ago, Ross said:

they dont add a third gender because outside of a couple of you, nobody wants it.

It's not true, you can check the topic I created, the link a few posts higher. Tho I admit that seems like the majority does not needs or wants it. It does not necessary means btw that majority is against it. Some can vote no just because they don't want devs to spend their time on it.

And I have nothing against futas. I actually think that most futas will actually only win from adding a third gender, especially if it will be properly done.

[☙𝔼𝕩❧]

I`ve noticed several famous futa-rooms In this game. Most of the people in these rooms are futa. I see many of them in the game. They`re playing with each other. Is it a problem? 

[SusanLouisa]

Why would it be a problem?  I wouldn't know a famous futa room because if it says futa room in the title I do not go. Nothing personal, I am just not interested as I am not a futa. Is that a problem?

[Xizi]

4 minutes ago, Atalas said:

Magic cock and pussy at the tip of their finger. why would they be interested of reduction of options. People usually are asking for more, not for less.

Because third gender can have it's own benefits, how much – very much depends on the way it's done. I am not sure what benefits it would give to the ones who play with both cock and pussy, jumping from one to another – probably no benefits or almost no benefits. That's why I think that the cock option for females should stay for the ones who needs it. But if we will talk about the majority of futa community, the ones who play with cock and balls always – they can benefit from it. I kind of listed it in the other thread already, but can write it here too.

1. Better identity. If third gender will be somehow differ without looking in profile (by making a gender related name colors not only in fl but in rooms, or by adding something near the girl names, for example (S) for shemales and (F) for females like it's done in Achat) it will make it easier for futas to be noticed by someone who are looking for them – therefore more approaches and in the same time it will remove the confusing situations when someone did not read the profile and then suddenly saw the cock where they expected to see a pussy.

People who search for a girl with a cock – can just choose it in their “Interested in” section instead of wasting profile’s space or making people wonder – “are they interested only in regular females or in all kind of girls?”. And for the ones who play as one will be easier to find people who interested in them. 

2. Better representation of the tgirl/futa avis. There are a lot of things that can be done to improve it:

• Pubic hair actually at the pubic region, not inside of a dick.
• Bulges in panties or flaccid penis instead of pussy if there is no panties and, for example, dress or skirt.
• Flat chest option for some femboys/crossdressers/non binary people.

 

[Loruna]

I think this whole discussion is really amusing. Some people talking like they know any opinion of any person in this game. And some talk like, they are the great god and can decide anything. (Not calling names. If you think I am talking to you, well then you judged yourself )

Do we need a third Gender? Well, in my opinion we don't need that as it will not solve the problem with guys playing female avis. What do you think will happen? That those guys will then just create that Futa Gender but never a Women Avi? I highly doubt that. They can easily create two avis and playing on them both. And then they can create even more drama with it.

When I talked to people, the most common thing that I heard was: "The person behind the avi counts." For some, this also includes the gender, I get that. But why making such a huge thing out of that? Okay, for me as a BI women it is easy to say, but doesn't the personality of the person is way more important than the gender? I mean... if you get along very very well with someone, why refusing having fun with him/her just because you don't know the true gender of that person? I don't really get that, but on this point everyone is different, I guess. (There was one case where a male outed himself for playing a female avi. He got some great shitstorm at him. But before he outed himself, he was well known and loved for his/her personality. And just because he did tell his true gender, his great personality was forgotten and he was the jerk for the most people. Never really understood that. )

And another thing that I don't get: Why do people assume that Futa = Male playing a female avi. I know some girls, where I know for sure that they are real women, who want to play sometimes with a dick. Like a fantasy now and then. That being said, I am not blind. I know that many futas are males irl or transgender. But why calling all futas males when there is a small amout of true women who want to play with a cock sometimes?

What we need, to get less male driven female avis (in my opinion at least), is that we behave different ingame. In my time in 3dx I mostly met one type of women: Waiting for the guys to talk to them. Barely any women wants to approach to the guys. And when the guys are not brave enough because they are shy, of course they think "Hey I can get a female avi so I get approached and not have to risk to get denied". That is the problem, I think. I don't think that there are so many guys out there who want to fool people. Sure there are, but not that many. When I talk to males who controlls female avis, that's the most common reason. They get approached and don't have to do it. And honestly, I get that totaly. If a guy approaches to the wrong women, they get scared off very quickly as some girls have really high standards. Of course "Hi, how r u?" is not the best approach, but some girls really want some kind of high romantic but not sexy approach and if it doesn't match their taste, they get bitchy. That is what ruins the fun for the guys playing as guys, I think. They have much higher pressure than we have. And noone wants pressure in a game, right? So yes... girls. Start to talk to the guys. As we fight for equality, we should at least give something back 

 

P.S.: I am still wondering how this discussion went from "Upcoming Updates" to "Third Gender for futas" 

[☙𝔼𝕩❧]

I voted  "No" in Futa poll because I guess they are feeling good without any new title. Btw, Achat has 3rd gender (S) - shemale.

[Xizi]

@Loruna I doubt that adding a third gender can solve the problems with guys playing as a females. I doubt anything can solve it, it's just a part of such games. Yet, it can decrease the amount of guys playing as a girls to some point. But probably not very much.

Why I think that is would be good to add the third gender – I already wrote in my previous post in this topic and also in the topic I were giving a link to. 

And I don't think that adding a third gender should lead to removing a cock option for the female avis and I also stated it in the topic I created about adding a third gender. Third gender should be an option, an additional opportunity for ones who wants it.

[Twiggy]

9 hours ago, Xizl said:

I doubt that adding a third gender can solve the problems with guys playing as a females. I doubt anything can solve it, it's just a part of such games. Yet, it can decrease the amount of guys playing as a girls to some point. But probably not very much.

Why I think that is would be good to add the third gender – I already wrote in my previous post in this topic and also in the topic I were giving a link to. 

And I don't think that adding a third gender should lead to removing a cock option for the female avis and I also stated it in the topic I created about adding a third gender. Third gender should be an option, an additional opportunity for ones who wants it.

There are several things that can be done to reduce the amount of guys playing as females, as I have said before. But yes there is no way where it can be completely solved. The devs can make it harder for them to do so though, at the moment it is made far to easy for these guys to find excuses for themselves to do it, and as you can see from some of the posts above can even feel it does no harm. "Why should it matter, it is still the same person you have had fun with, what's the difference if it is a girl or guy behind the keyboard" I am not going to get into all the problems it creates and the excuses used by these guys to justify to themselves to be able to do it, but I will repeat that the devs can do things that will make it so these guys can't so easily justify it to themselves. I think you would be surprised how much of a difference it would make if their excuses were taken away from them. I not only think it needs a 3rd gender, I think it also needs another section in our profiles where we have to nominate our real life gender, something like, MALE, FEMALE, ROLEPLAYER. That way people would have to lie and know they are lying to pretend to be a female behind the keyboard. I know a lot still would but I also think a lot would not. There are other things like that which will make it so not so many are willing to deceive, right now it is made far to easy for them to be able to do so and think they are not lying or deceiving when in fact they are.

As for making so if a 3rd gender was introduced but females still having the penis option, what would be the use, what would then be the difference between the 2. The female menu would then still have to have all the related poses the same as it does now. If you are saying that the 3rd gender would not have the option to remove the penis then it would most definitely not be worth it, it would make little to no difference. A big part of the reason a 3rd gender is needed that you don't seem to want to acknowledge is for women to have their own gender, not only for hetero sexual women and lesbians but also because it will benefit hetero sexual men as well. The female they get with should be a female, not someone that is going to try put a cock in the butt.

The 3rd gender should be what females are now with all the menu options it has now but called something else like rolepay or futu or TGirl, the female gender should not have the penis option, only an option for strap ons and the poses that use strap ons should be in its own section in the menu.

Until the devs do something to reduce the amount of guys doing this and to make it easier for women and hetero sexual men to play the game, where women are not completely mixed in with these guys because we do not have our own gender, where we are constantly assumed to be one of them. Where guys that play the game are going to assume that the females in the game are guys behind the keyboard. Then the market available to the devs is always going to be severely restricted because they have gained a reputation for not caring and not even being willing to try anything to make it better.

Edited October 27, 2019 by Twiggy

[TashaTight]

Think right now strap on thing only partially working, since often the poses don't register who is female and who is trans gendered if you're female having sex with Tgirl, think it's something they need to fix somehow, I would think obvious solution would be having something that identify who is who. Which probably would have to be either assigning gender tags or by adding persistent strap ons which you can hide visually somehow like Second life does with penises, then use that as checkers who goes into what pose.

It's somewhat frustrating to have sex with Tgirl then suddenly land in pose where you have the penis on.

[☙𝔼𝕩❧]

1 hour ago, Atalas said:

The devs facilitate the videogame part of 3dxchat mostly, rather than the social platform part of it. Which is why for example we are getting more sex poses, instead of getting additional slowdance poses, kissing stuff, so on. It's a shame that the social part is neglected most of the time here in game development

It was neglected(or wasn`t), but not today. The developers read us on the forums, but today they started polling in discord and the mass of users can choose social or sexual stuff to add to the game. Take a look at the discord polls.

[Tankard]

3 minutes ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

It was neglected(or wasn`t), but not today. The developers read us on the forums, but today they started polling in discord and the mass of users can choose social or sexual stuff to add to the game. Take a look at the discord polls.

Las update at the polls sections was on 24th about tatoos... and I don't see anything new in the developer updates section either, nothing new was posted after the new female wear.... am I missing something here? Could you show me the place where was anything posted today about things you mentioned? Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

[☙𝔼𝕩❧]

Just now, Atalas said:

Las update at the polls sections was on 24th about tatoos... and I don't see anything new in the developer updates section either, nothing new was posted after the new female wear.... am I missing something here? Could you show me the place where was anything posted today about things you mentioned? Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

Why today? It works all the time in my opinion, just bring your vote.

[Tankard]

5 minutes ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

Why today? It works all the time in my opinion, just bring your vote.

well yeah I saw those polls, voted also.  ( thought that you said something being posted today in your previous reply)

I would like to remind people that more options are possible to cast your votes upon in that poll, so you don't have to chose one instead of another.

Edited October 27, 2019 by Atalas

[Xizi]

I hope that devs will not base their decisions solely on poll results. Because it's not a fair way. The majority will always get everything, while minority will get nothing. If for example 75% of community will want a vanilla pose and 25% will want bdsm pose – it will lead to having vanilla poses again and again, while the fair way would be to have at least 1 bdsm pose for 3 vanillas. I know that in reality it's more complicated and I simplified it a lot, but I did it just to illustrate that basing a decision solely on polls is very wrong way to make things work. If it will be this way we will end it the heteronormative, vanilla-only game.