Stairs broken in 436

[Feuermond]

Well, the stairs are broken.

At the connection point of 2 objects the avatar now stucks. It worked before the update, nothing in the room was changed. Thea avatar runs on spot, nothing was changed in the room. I think this is a serious critical or even fatal buck: Many user rooms are not usable anymore.

 

[xHollyx]

Well, the new patch totally screwed up my existing game so I've had to do a complete reinstall, which isn't working either!

So I'd love to have some broken stairs!

[Diana Prince]

Just tried it in one of my rooms. For me the stairs work even better than before  Where I had to struggle to "climb" the stairs, my avi now walks smoothly up the stairs. Weird. But I have to make more tests, this was just one room.

What's the experience of other players?

[NoirDesire]

Stairs not working - I agree to Moon 

Edited December 6, 2021 by NoirDesire

[Feuermond]

8 minutes ago, Diana Prince said:

Just tried it in one of my rooms. For me the stairs work even better than before  Where I had to struggle to "climb" the stairs, my avi now walks smoothly up the stairs. Weird. But I have to make more tests, this was just one room.

What's the experience of other players?

Do you use self made stairs or build in stairs? I tried to build a new stair, just one single element: It does not work at all.

Edited December 6, 2021 by Feuermond

[belleanna]

Stairs in existing rooms completely fucked up... I use spiral staircases sometimes in very small space conditions... no idea how to fix this without investing hours of work again. Really a good reason to start a firework and celebrate... simply getting more and more tired of all this crap.

[ColinDude]

I realize these are workarounds, but you can go into two directions right now, besides waiting for a bug fix:

• Use the invisible wall to make the surface flat so the avatar will slide over it easily
• Implement portals to skip from downstairs to upstairs and the other way around

[Feuermond]

I found a stair still working, another one fucked up though is is a copy of the working one.

[Feuermond]

19 minutes ago, ColinDude said:

I realize these are workarounds, but you can go into two directions right now, besides waiting for a bug fix:

• Use the invisible wall to make the surface flat so the avatar will slide over it easily
• Implement portals to skip from downstairs to upstairs and the other way around

The walls do not really do the trick. It seems like as if in the stairs itself there are some invisible walls, collisions detection activated/deactivated randomly.

Edited December 6, 2021 by Feuermond

[Feuermond]

ColinDude reported in WordChat somebody said setting the z-scale of stairs from 1 down to 0.9999 will solve the problem. I did some tests and can confirm this observation.

Edited December 6, 2021 by Feuermond

[Music]

Solution to the stair issue is, to slightly change the z scale, e.g. from 1 to 0.9999. The problem ist, that at the moment 3DX seems not to be able to handle inclinations of 45 degrees or more. The same applies to ramps, keep the inclination below 45 degrees, then it works.

[MeiLing]

You can't climb the mountains.... My homemade ladder is at 85° and works fine

[Jannick]

The stairs bug is also in pools when the stairs are down to the ground of the pool.

Lifting up the stairs over the water level works. Seems like a problem with transparent objects.

Confirming the bug with two stairs, one is working.
Stretching one and copy one on top works too, to shorten the steps.

Edited December 7, 2021 by Jannick

[DamianDallas]

For the one house layout I have tried them in, I have been able to go down stairs, but not up them.  This definitely needs to be fixed!

[Feuermond]

There might be workarounds but anyway this issue needs to be fixed asap, it is a fatal malfunction and makes places unusable, simply more immersion break like with the still existing jiggling in female breast physics.

[KaelaKitten]

2 of 4 premade staircases in my room were broken. I could not go up them. I was able to repair them though . It seems that if the bottom of the stairs object is sunk too far into the floor the entire object does not work. Tearing out the entire staircase and rebuilding it, placing the object perfectly sunk so that the bottom edge of the first step is perfectly flush with the floor and my premade stairs are working again. All stairs i made myself are fine. This of course caused alignment problems with the upper levels floor being a little too high. Which needed to be lowered and all objects on it lowered as well in order to look the way it did before the update. It's fixable with a little elbow grease I got my room back to useable in about 30-45 minutes.

[MeiLing]

Mountains have no workaround

 

[Anong]

reduce z-scale to 0.99999 dont work for me...

WE NEED A HIT FIX..... IMEDENTLY

[JenC]

4 hours ago, Anong said:

reduce z-scale to 0.99999 dont work for me...

WE NEED A HIT FIX..... IMEDENTLY

Have you tried just moving them slightly? Preferably back and up a little.

[MeiLing]

mountains can't be fixed this way. it would be better to have a fix

[Music]

I can confirm now that the issue is, that you can't move up any inclination above 45 degrees. WIth the stairs it happens that, depending on the floating point precision of your processor, the z scale is a bit above 1, and at that point the stairs do not work any more. The same with ramps, the z scale must be less than the x scale to work correctly. The same applies to the landscape, if the angle is mire than 45 degrees, you can't climb any more

[MeiLing]

1 hour ago, Music said:

I can confirm now that the issue is, that you can't move up any inclination above 45 degrees. WIth the stairs it happens that, depending on the floating point precision of your processor, the z scale is a bit above 1, and at that point the stairs do not work any more. The same with ramps, the z scale must be less than the x scale to work correctly. The same applies to the landscape, if the angle is mire than 45 degrees, you can't climb any more

Only in game objects. 'home made' stairs or ladder work fine, even better than ever

[Feuermond]

It is unbelievably: Even in a general location (Fresco) there is the stairs bug and no fix yet.

[observer101]

Confirming the bug ... I can no longer climb mountains in my rooms that have them. It was not a problem before.

[AlexaDarkness]

 

On 12/6/2021 at 1:49 PM, ColinDude said:

I realize these are workarounds, but you can go into two directions right now, besides waiting for a bug fix:

• Use the invisible wall to make the surface flat so the avatar will slide over it easily
• Implement portals to skip from downstairs to upstairs and the other way around

I encountered a bug recently with the Portal.. whereby an invisible dome was placed over the portal, meaning when I walked towards the portal, I ended up about 20M above the portal, so which made the portal unusable.