Vaughan_Rarius Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 This topic originated in "upcoming-updates-discussion" around P30. http://3dxforum.com/...cussion/page-30 3DXChat Economy has become an interesting discussion between members and deserved its own topic so all views, ideas and thoughts can be found easy on the subject. All views and ideas welcome. Should 3DXchat have an economy where members can sell their builds etc... or should we maintain the uniqueness of sharing? BrantOn, Galenguab and RidgeRet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeiLing Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 It's a sex game not a social game. Nobody has stumbled upon this game by googling : best dj games or social games.Economy would surely kill the game and its spirit. ToxicallySweet, Xizi, Vaughan_Rarius and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovelyBritney Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 My vote is a big NO for economy. It just won't happen anyway. ChiK73, ToxicallySweet, Tauri and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicallySweet Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I would hate to see 3dx turn into IMVU, Second Life and AChat. Now don't get me wrong those games are very nice and I do love the variety and customization but I feel would turn 3dx into a money grabbing game like those. Also feel will ruin it as some people creative taste isn't as good as others. I do love seeing what people create but not a fan of purchasing it definitely when it was stated by Gizmo years ago that we don't need to worry about purchasing content. I'd rather things be created by 3dx devs but do wish things would update quicker. Also as you can see forums is out of control so highly doubt they would be able to control a shop site either. Sorry hate to think badly toward devs but it's how I view it and my opinion is from years of seeing how things have been going so far. I've seen how devs have leaned on moderators here to do their work for them. Also we all know communication isn't good either. Sorry again hate to be Debbie downer but I like to be a realist. Xandisweet, Vaughan_Rarius, Matrix and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetoxDave Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 This isn’t a simple issue so, for that reason, I support the idea of a separate thread. I have a feeling that most of what needs to be said has already been said, so a degree of repetition is likely. Perhaps a poll might have been useful, particularly for people like me who haven’t made up their minds and can see both sides of the debate. I’ll quickly edit in my response to the preceding post. A lot has happened since 2014 and the game has become more social in its orientation. Sex may draw people in, friends, to my mind, cause them to stay. Five years on things have changed, there’s no harm in thinking again about this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandisweet Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I come for the World Chat xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naptime Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I vote for NPC exchange concepts only. Like a 10k fine for jerking off in public . Seriously a card game (Ante up) or some gambling concept. I would so love to take every ones xgold Give the game currency some kinda power. The dev's don't even inflate the current npc transactions. Beer has been the same price for like ever & you don't get that cool dizzy screen now. So why isn't it cheaper. Mehhhhhhh!!! Cheers all!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desirea Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Naptime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan_Rarius Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 I personally like the uniqueness of enjoying a game with no currency. Why? because people are nicer to each other. Whores have to think of ingenious ways to be repaid for their work/service instead of cold hard currency and is more governed towards role play or swapping talents. Bring in a currency and suddenly the game will change, whores will flood in or more will turn into whores to find a way to pay their subscription or improve their 3dx accessories. A darker market will develop of selling porn pics, some claiming to be self pics when in reality most are just edited from the net. Ugly blackmail incidents will occur with naive players, pay me this or I publish this.... pay me first and I will Skype sex with you, but the skype never happens... People who are introvert and learning social graces and becoming more confident as they use 3dx will suddenly find themselves paying whores instead of learning to adjust nicely. Builders will begin to sell their houses and designs and the market will change considerably. DJ's will charge too for their talented services. Why?, because they can. I'm not saying that talent should not be rewarded but the friendly, cosy atmosphere of 3DX will just change and the uniqueness that is so appealing will be gone and lost forever. A colder, harder market will appear. People here are mostly kind, making things for less talented members, joining design groups to teach others, making song lists and fantastic sets for social evenings... Its heart warming to see and hear about. Its the important heart of our community. Don't spoil what is here. How do I know this? I have seen it happen in another game.Where once gifting was restricted, the game was enjoyable and a great community existed. When currency became more tradable, whores who once did it more for fettish and fantasy reasons became fewer and more took over and were pulled into whoring by the greed of what could be earned.More alts appeared to earn more money. More men played women to skank other paying players.Whore houses became large & black listed players. The currency and how much could be made was the main focus and became a status symbol. The sex and social aspect became less important and eventually the enjoyment began to wane for players like me and I moved away. Leave 3dxChat as it is, it is far more appealing. Anong, Anechka, ToxicallySweet and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Rarius loses 1,000 points for just thinking of a silly thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopardus Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Should 3DXchat have an economy where members can sell their builds etc... or should we maintain the uniqueness of sharing?No...just no. My tuppeny-ha'pence view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloe Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 We already have x-gold as economy, but it feels unfinished. Sure it should never get out of control and an change back from x-gold into dollars should never exist - so nobody can whirr around for their subscription ^^. What I have seen is that you have to pay most whores with gifts in 3dx. So it already cost you virtual money. Before we can talk about selling user created content (beside rooms) we need them first. Clothes and poses to name them. Let's shift the discussion to the point in time than we get our fingers the first time on one of those editors ^^ I am still a fan of the idea that the host of a room get 50% of the x-gold a beer costs. Would be a nice way to support a party hoster for world chat ads ^^ if they finally will cost money and to push the room on top of the room list. Anechka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 they will always have the option to just do what they do now, pay their sub and nothing more and still enjoy the game fully. No. They will not enjoy it fully. They will enjoy it only with basic content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob. Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (Steals the gold from a card game) The economy becomes a subject on WC to mess with some people, that really is the reason why it is ever mentioned in WC. Now in other games turning game money for real money is a draw, and to be really honest, their graphics suck major sheep balls. There are some games where players spend hundreds up to thousands on props. Works in theory for Tera and Fortnight, but it they offer a free games trolls and other shit heads more opportunity. Pay to play is in itself the best way to root out minors, constant trolling (they have pay to get more accounts and gold to change their alts), assholes and so on.Besides many builders here offer their creations for free, imagine if they sold only. Vaughan_Rarius and MeiLing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliviax Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Lets see Rarius perspective from another point of view . ill start say what is the things that 3dxchat lacks ? ill answer Clothessssssssss -poses- character customization And those things are Vital for a game yet we lack those !why ? before i answer the why , ill ask you why other games dont lack those stuff ? is it pure luck that all the games that dont lack clothes -poses n character customization have market n economy So as you see curency -market n economy is a vital aspect that need to be implemented to the game if we want to see more clothes more poses n more character customization tha simple Now dont tell me that economy will not bring clothes etc cause it will be a lie Tell only that u dont want economy that will also equals in not get clothes and character customization . To sum it up my vote is that 3dxchat need a market needs economy so we see a day with more cloth options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeiLing Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 the editor of the game is able to do this for free. If there was a clothes editor. we would be all able to edit and share for free these clothes. Xizi, Vaughan_Rarius, LovelyBritney and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanyFR Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 why claim money? We pay a subscription, so we pay to have the content of the games. If in addition we have to pay for new clothes... Its useless and we can say goodbye 3dx... We should stop talking about topics like that ! MeiLing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 before i answer the why , ill ask you why other games dont lack those stuff ?Because they have poses and clothes editors. You're replacing concepts, probably for selfish reasons, when you say that there are a lot of clothes and poses in other games due to the market, although it is obvious that the market is only a bonus motivation, but the main reason is the clothes and poses editors. We don't have a market for locations, but we have a lot of good locations and objects, many of which are free. And we will have nice new clothes and poses if there will be clothes and poses editors, even without market. Yes, with market there will be more reasons to create content, and I agree that with market there will be more good poses and clothes in total, but:1. It will not be for all. 2. It will ruin the atmospehere of the game, like Vaughan_Rarius said.I remember this feeling when in some other sex game I felt hesitant and ashamed to contact people for vsex because I just had a little amount of poses. I don't want to feel uncomfrotable like this in 3dx, it's not for what I pay my money. And I don't want to pay a lot more to be able to buy all things I need on the market. I don't really care a lot about clothes market (but still don't think it's a good idea), but poses market will just ruin the atmosphere completely. For me it will be the end of 3dx, and belive me, not only for me. Anong, LovelyBritney and Vaughan_Rarius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxx Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Economies work. Second Life, IMVU and RLC to name a few dwarf 3DX membership because of their economies and the new content created. It would never happen here, but when - not If, a graphically comparable game to 3DX comes, this place will become a ghost town. All the stuff bought from the Unity Store and added here - like the silly Saloon would become available if those creators sell directly in game and would be a near instant explosion of content. This has been the goal of Utherverse and Oasis and they are not alone. Bridget_Cleary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridget_Cleary Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 That's all cool Maxx, but the anarchist in me thinks that it's nice if people are willing to share their creations, like happens now with rooms. First we need to tools clothes editor, better avi editor, and the one loads of people ask for a pose editor. Once those are in place and the explosion of user created content starts to happen we can start thinking about whether or not an internal market is a good thing. I think it's worth looking at, but given that 3dxChat is quite expensive compared to the alternatives, it might not have sufficient popularity to win through. LovelyBritney and Maxx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxx Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 That's all cool Maxx, but the anarchist in me thinks that it's nice if people are willing to share their creations, like happens now with rooms. First we need to tools clothes editor, better avi editor, and the one loads of people ask for a pose editor. Once those are in place and the explosion of user created content starts to happen we can start thinking about whether or not an internal market is a good thing. I think it's worth looking at, but given that 3dxChat is quite expensive compared to the alternatives, it might not have sufficient popularity to win through. You can share still. Nothing prevents that. Granted, there is a charm to sharing, but there are so many here who no longer will or never would because they don't want their works bastardized and for some other to steal it for sale. Places like SL and Utherverse will protect content creators. You get into paid economies you can share all you want, but you will have ownership protection . Those sellers in the Unity Store would go apeshit if their stuff was stolen and many of them have the resources to launch legal challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicallySweet Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Lets see Rarius perspective from another point of view . ill start say what is the things that 3dxchat lacks ? ill answer Clothessssssssss -poses- character customization And those things are Vital for a game yet we lack those !why ? before i answer the why , ill ask you why other games dont lack those stuff ? is it pure luck that all the games that dont lack clothes -poses n character customization have market n economy So as you see curency -market n economy is a vital aspect that need to be implemented to the game if we want to see more clothes more poses n more character customization tha simple Now dont tell me that economy will not bring clothes etc cause it will be a lie Tell only that u dont want economy that will also equals in not get clothes and character customization . To sum it up my vote is that 3dxchat need a market needs economy so we see a day with more cloth options To counter this, which I've stated before that we had a few players giving the Devs FREE clothes... poses and what not. Devs only accepted a few of all the items they were GIVEN FOR FREE. So I'm sorry that I think its stupid to charge us or make us want to purchase gold for items we could and should get free because we pay a subscription for it. AtticusFinch, Vaughan_Rarius, Xizi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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