Lunarelf

9 minutes ago, THX said:

Oh, it was a fully functioning world like 3DX. Each world had pros and cons. They just bit off more than they could do and never focused on the most basic thing. Like avitar look, shading and aethetics.  They were going to worry about that after all the backend was finished. Who wants a fugly avitar and terrible graphics even if the backend was so cutting edge? It was a fatal mistake. They lost millions of dollars.

so that might be reason why 3dxchat doesn't have a fabric engine: because devs need more clients, but not all clients are gamers, especially for 2021, when graphic cards are crazilly expensive...

Imagine that, if one day 3dxchat will really become like curio or a better version of sl, that will be a milestone on this planet's  history lol

17 minutes ago, THX said:

"Competator" as in past tense. Yes, there was. Those are Meshes made for it. I have around 50 UV/FBX clothing  I think still. They were released as a map pack for designers to texture in the in game clothing Ediitor they had.

You and JenC and others I'm sure know far more about the mechanics of how clothing is rigged and what can be done in 3DX. However, I can safely say I never saw any clipping of legs through dresses in the Curio Unity project. Clipping would crop up mostly on close fitting clothes when the Avi was made larger.

 

If the game was never made... yes, it could be possible because all the display will be pre-maded for showing. but yea, it is possible to make the avatars completely fits their outfit and not clipping, just need some extra hours work

5 hours ago, THX said:

Never realized 3DX had that issue. Even with wider dresses towards the ankles??

Edit: went back and looked to see if I had any pictures,but don't.  These  wedding dresses I had started on texturing long ago (I didn't make the mesh). 

Does that mean this competitor has what you were speaking of? (I don't even remember anymore how to make the texture preview on the 3D)

I don't see them ever switching game engines. They arn't even on the newest Unity version.

unfortunately, yes. although I'm not mean the competitors(seriously... are there any game like 3dxchat even exist except the pirated version?), but we can't having these kind of dresses. Because when avatar walks, it's walking animation might make their legs went through it.

there is a solutions which doesn't need a individual rig for every dresses or fabric engine: which just like you said: make the ankle part "wider" , but there's 2 problem within this solution :

1:when avatar walking, there's still a small chance that their knee, heel or leg will went through it

2:this edit will make avatar can't sit down properly on the ground, because their dress will open up like a blunderbuss

for honestly, these are really not hurting in those 3d chat games such as sl/imvu, but seems our devs have more strict requirements on the costume qualities, so the costumes may cause such problems might not appear in game, and that really make the game better. so maybe we'll see what will they add to game in future.

12 hours ago, THX said:

 

Really? not doubting you, but that is odd.

Even in other Unity worlds there was less issues with clipping in dress's below the knee (more room? or because the dress replaced the legs?).

I've seen more issues in clothes that are tight to the body. or perhaps, in other worlds (unlike 3dx) clothes replace the body underneath to save polygons (unlike 3dx)? Good and bad to that from what I see here as opposed to there. Good, cause you don't have clipping, bad cause you have no "body" underneath.

The only problem is: ain't you know we don't got cloth calculations/rig so the dresses can't be longer than the leg, because it will go straight through it?

if we really got a fabric engine in game, things will be solved easily: we can finally have some longer dresses, no more clothes will stuck into objects. but on the other hand: the stability of the game might be lag like sh....snail, because not everyone's computer has a strong cpu and graphic card

I know it will be cool if we have that things, but unfortunately, 3dxchat it's still a last generation sex game, the only way to avoid these clipping glitches is make the clothes shorter---or tighter. maybe one day if the game updates to ue4 or having fabric engines, the problem will been solved

6 hours ago, THX said:

 

Twiggy, what I stated is accurate. Can it be done cheaper now - certainly, but cheaper can be ...cheap.  like Xbox cheap.

The Curio project most likely got it done cheaper since the CEO had created the company Holofilms which was making Mocap and producing VR porn. The CEO's name of Utherverse  (RLC) is Brian Shuster. He also started Holofilms.  I present this as confirmation. http://holofilmproductions.com/ 

you can then read up on it here:

https://www.xbiz.com/news/198924/holofilm-previews-holographic-porn-at-xbiz-open-house

This is the Cam mounting system they used for 20 Cams to record the pole dancer below.

http://holofilmproductions.com/Content/Gallery/MR220_Perspective_Assembled.png

 

I know what the costs were stated to be by the Devs at the time for profession grade Mocap and what they used at the time - 10 years ago. There used to be a youtube clip of them filming the pole dancer  who was converted to Mocap for this series of pole dance sequences strung together by Zhar to create below routine. What you see below was filmed shortly after the UNITY 5 upgrade if I remember correctly and how it fucked things up in terms of shaders and other issues. notice the hands off the pole, and the pole movement in some of the movements  (never understood why she made such an UGLY avi for this.)

And yes, the CEO has DIRECTLY told me he has HUNDREDS of Mocap sex scenes in storage.

An interesting concept one of the  Devs spoke about they wanted to achieve in the future, was to eventually record directly RL movements to avatar animations that could simply be plugged in.

Again, this is why I was hoping 'another company' Gizmo stated they were working with was this company.

 

As for Gizmo having to worry about his liability, he wouldn't have any if someone hacked them in anymore than he would if he created a plug-in to broadcast html5 and someone was playing the most recently released movies in 3DX. If a complaints was filed against the person doing it, Gizmo would take it down or ban the user and the plaintiff would deal with the legal - not SexyDevil.  Why do you think this goes on in the old worlds for now 10 years? if the old world company's where at risk they would be far more militant and it wouldn't be going on. Same with DJing that goes on in 3DX now.

sorry THX, but just like twiggy said: it's not cost that much to make poses——yes, it's hard, but not means it cost a lot. otherwise there's no one making new games.

First thing to mention is not every game need a live-action captured animation.it more seen in act games or some cutscenes which plays during the game progress. these are really coast much, but if you check on 3dx... well, the poses they're using are more "robotic", the avatar doesn't look that "live" while standing or interacting with objects. So as far as we can tell the game it's running on the programmed poses... or at least most of them.  Because the live action poses will be longer, and it will be more hard to make as a loop.

On the other hand... I'm pretty sure that gizmo&Lisa just make some of the animations, and the others, such like dancing or walking etc, they just purchased some finished animations, which it's not expensive also. but back to the point, which 3dxchat doesn't have, and don't need any live-action captures for their poses. remember we're still on unity4 but not ue4? that's the reason why. 3dxchat it's a good game, but it's not a next generation game, so we don't really need those real captured animations. and for those more robotic poses---they're way cheaper than the real ones, but works well enough.

btw I think the reason why we doesn't getting any big update it's not only because the policy and anti-piracy problems, but something worse: which gizmo realized he can't make the pose/clothes editor both built-in and user friendly. if the situation it's like this, maybe using some professitional tools like maya will do better job on making new stuffs... but just a guessing, I'm not sure either

Ain't our major problem should be "why" but not "what" ?

well... I'm not good at programming, so I'm not gonna say this is a easy work. but just a reminder: 4 non-interactive poses, without large body/hand movements, doesn't need 4 months to make, and the "cage" it's basically the most common thing that any player can make one in 10 minutes: the only difference will be the pose, but the cage pose is non-interactive anyway. so somehow this is actually "worse" than the player version. And then... we have a problem: why devs costs 4-month, just make 4 poses that need as maximum as 2 months to make, and every player can make a better version?

Yes, some players may not like the bdsm stuff, but how to keep a vanilla stays pure and sweet? just not putting any chocolates in it. they can totally ignore the update, doesn't install it in their room, or making this pose to some other use---such like sitting on the side of balcony/patio. but this should not be our major problem, what we need it's to know what costs them so long, and make just one pose object, and this pose is not necessary at all...

5 hours ago, Rook said:

I just want to look like this. PLEAAAASE

shirt + tuxedo is already exist in the game(although it's not open shirt...), this is more like a trench coat, maybe I'll try it later because more ppl want the hoodie or hawaiian shirt

8 minutes ago, JoniZ said:

So looking forward to the hoodie...fingers crossed Lisa responds to you soon. Thank you attempting to make new clothes for us Lunarelf...very much appreciated. 

She do replied me, but unfortunately... this hoodie will not been add to the game in this update, maybe they will adding it later : c

4 hours ago, Neur said:

Why do you even bother? Like what's the chance of these getting in the game?

let's say Idk and idc about chance, but Lisa viewed some other clothes I made before and they might add it to game, this is the most important thing---there's someone gonna make it afterall eh? If it's not me, I think someone others will make it too

due to the poll result, there's 3 options on the top: 

gothy/punky dress(sweet and female only)

sexy nun dress( female only)

gloves(both)

I'll start making these 3 at first, and I'll try some of your advices when I finish them, let's hope and wait : D 

2 hours ago, THX said:

Well, three things.

 

1. Gizmo communicated again so hopefully we can lay that to rest for a week.

2. Not sure why these cage props would be a higher priority than other things. You can kinda already do  cage poses already and there doesn't seem much interest - at least what I have seen.

3. "Rape fantasies" (different from real rape) are a common fantasy of a majority of women polls show exceeding cages, bondage and other "normal" fantasies yet we are being lectured in "kink shaming" by those who have issue with a common female fantasy.

I must admit to laughing at those who talk "Kink shaming." My you're so hip!! 

maybe just because it's easy to make...... that's why they make it as update. otherwise... why do we even need cages if the 3dxmodz and 3dxshare are already foll of cages with different poses, some are even interactive poses ; _ ;

btw, if someone in this post who hates bdsm so a pose/object should not been adding to game it's total . they don't like it? ignore it! pertend it never added into game.

27 minutes ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

I liked this and had a hope that they will keep it. There is lack of content and making it just for a little time is radiculous in my opinion. 

no joke, this doesn't need about 4 months to update, although it's happy we can get some new poses, but these are seems only took ... as maximum as 1 month to make? if that's the only update... wow

2 hours ago, Khallum Troy said:

Bonjour,
Je viens d'avoir une autre idée. Elle va peut être sembler idiot, ou pas très originale, j'en convient.
 Une chemise ouverte, (m/f), couleur unie, ou imprimée à carreaux, dont on pourrait changer la couleur, avec les manches longues retroussées, sur un T-shirt, dont on pourrait changer la couleur.
On pourrait la mettre par dessus un short, ou un pantalon, ou encore un jeans ?
En modèle fermé, qui entre dans le pantalon, cela pourrait faire une chemise de cow boy, ou cow girl, comme tu as proposé un chapeau de cow boy/girl. Cela pourrait aller avec.

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Hello,
I just had another idea. It may seem silly, or not very original, I agree.
 An open shirt, (m/f), plain color, or printed with checks, which we could change the color, with the long sleeves rolled up, on a T-shirt, which we could change the color.
We could put it over shorts, or pants, or jeans?
In a closed model, that goes into the pants, it could be a cowboy shirt, or cowgirl shirt, like you suggested a cowboy/girl hat. It could go with it.

I think we have something like that, but nice idea, I'll look forward to see if I can make one

6 minutes ago, Diana Prince said:

but remember, they had this ridiculous "balancing on the dick" sport - pose last year

wopps...

although I think it's not a joke, but I can't control myself to think about this

16 minutes ago, Diana Prince said:

What do you think, is it the April Fool's joke, like the sport one with the dick last year?  

not sure... I don't think they'll waste this finished rig-animation, but also... 4 months, just this? these are not need 4 months to make

1 hour ago, TashaTight said:

Just a personal take or opinion instead of suggesting school girl uniform, maybe a top like this:

Since there already some skirts would work for a school girl uniform, but with a top like this seperate it would allow for that to be used in combination with other type skirts of office RPs too. Instead of ending with stuff that can only really be used for one thing, Also be really nice with knee socks seems we only having currently thigh high socks or stockings. If those two things happens should be easy to make school girl uniforms but also have apparels can be use for others things.

well... the "JK" student costume it's kinda different with the ordinary student uniform, but like these

what I'm trying to make it's "关东襟”（kanto style） or “名古屋襟”( nagoya style)

as you can see, the shirt and skirt it's kinda different with the American style uniform. I could try to make a tie style shirt when I'm making the OL skirt, but I'm more like to make 2 different style uniform rather than make one lookin like everything, but not 100% same

1 hour ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

I didnt see any hoodie for fems in 3dx. When will they add this? 

I made one like this and send to Lisa 2 weeks ago, but she hasn't reply me yet.

hello~ last day of march---it's been about 2 month since gizmo replied us~

1 hour ago, THX said:

Why start with niche clothing? Why not start simple and maximum usage? You know things guys and girls wear all the time? Like:

Different styles of panties for women. French cut, different thong and all the other styles I have no clue women wear. Maybe more boxer like shorts for men or actual swim trunks with several different patterns or styles? Those are typically quick meshes to make for those skilled.

For chicks different bras. Chicks go crazy over bras. And guys, decent  polo shirt mesh or Hawaiian shirts for beaches which are very popular in 3DX in general as a theme.

Body socks for chicks should be fairly easy too.

Skirts for women of different lengths and kilts for guys should be easy.

You could have a huge impact with some of the more common and simple things.

And if you posted the UV maps to them, I'm sure artists could add textures and prints in unique ways and submit them. Increasing the amount of content.

Niche stuff is kewl, but the basics would be simpler and used far more.

because that will be boring--- same modeling but different clothes could only used on t-shirt printing, sock/stoking and glowes, but what's the difference after all?

same clothes for 3 years?

sorry, I can't bear this, so that's why I'm making something new---we wear the same thing it's because we have no choice. then if devs don't have time to make some for us, I'll help them to make it.

btw, since it's me start this post,  planning to making all these clothes, and asking ppl about clothes they want,  do you think I really doesn't know what is nice and what is not?

35 minutes ago, Khallum Troy said:

Bonsoir,
Les jupes ou les robes qui arrivent juste au dessus des genoux, c'est bien aussi
Pour les vêtement de plage, les femmes ont des bikinis c'est vrai. Les hommes ont des boxers ou des slips, ou des shorts. Peut être que je prends mal le problème.. C'est peut être une question d'imprimés, comme tu dis.
Je parlais d'une chemise de plage, mais je dirais plutôt un modèle de chemise manches courtes, mais qui ne s'arrêterait pas à la limite du pantalon, mais un peu en dessous. On a une chemise (homme), qui s'arrête à la limite du pantalon, qui ne va pas avec tous les pantalons ou shorts que l'on met. Celle que l'on a, c'est le même modèle de chemise de la police, mais sans l'insigne et les écussons, qui entre dans le pantalon.
On a aussi les chemises manches longues, (manches non retroussées) dans le pantalon ou à l'extérieur du pantalon aussi.
Cela reste des vêtements simples de base je pense.
Pardon mesdames je n'ai pas trop de propositions, je ne connais pas votre garde robe.
Petite question aussi :
Et est ce qu'il est possible de créer des uniformes de police, comme les hommes, mais pour femme ? (Chemise + pantalon). Oui comme je t'ai dit, je fais beaucoup de roleplay, et il y a beaucoup de femmes aussi, et beaucoup d'entre elles regrettent qu'il n'y ait pas le même uniforme pour elles.

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Good evening,
Skirts or dresses that come just above the knees are good too
For beachwear, women have bikinis it's true. Men have boxers or briefs, or shorts. Maybe I'm taking the problem wrong. Maybe it's a question of prints, as you say.
I was talking about a beach shirt, but I'd say more like a short-sleeved shirt, but that wouldn't stop at the edge of the pants, but a bit below. We have a shirt (man), which stops at the limit of the pants, which does not go with all the pants or shorts that we put. The one we have is the same model of police shirt, but without the insignia and patches, which goes into the pants.
We also have long-sleeved shirts, (sleeves not rolled up) in the pants or outside the pants too.
It remains simple basic clothing I think.
Sorry ladies I don't have too many suggestions, I don't know your wardrobe.
Small question also:
And is it possible to create police uniforms, like men, but for women? (Shirt + pants) Yes like I said, I do a lot of roleplay, and there are a lot of women too, and a lot of them regret that there is not the same uniform for them.

Hii

For the regular police costume(Female), that is what I'm currently making.  so it will be worked out soon

For the beach shirts... I'll try if I can make a longer shirt for male avatar, but I'm not really sure will it look different as others or looks almost same. I'll try it anyway, thanks for the idea

56 minutes ago, Khallum Troy said:

Bonjour,
L'idée de faire des vêtements est bien. Il y a déjà un topic sur ce sujet, donc il ne faudrait pas que cela devienne une copie du même topic, avec les mêmes demandes sans intérêt, rempli de demandes de vêtements moches. On est dans un jeu, mais quand même. Et puis pourquoi, toujours proposer aux femmes des tenues vulgaires ? Alors il en faut pour tous les goûts, c'est vrai. Mais cela manque de tenues élégantes. Etre sexy ne veut pas forcément dire, tout montrer.
De jolies robes élégantes, pour la vie de tous les jours, ou pour les soirées. Des tailleurs jupes ou pantalons. Ca c'est élégant.
Déjà des vêtements de bases, que tout le monde utilise tous les jours, cela serait pas mal.
Pensons de façon logique et efficace. Le monde de 3DXChat se fait sur des iles. En suite on crée nos maps selon notre imagination (maisons, clubs, villes, resorts, etc..). Peut être mettre des vêtements de plage ? Des sandales, des maillots de bains, des chemises à fleurs, des paréos, ce genres de choses, des chapeaux de pailles ou panama. Des combinaisons de plongées même pourquoi pas. Bon après on ne peut pas nager sous l'eau. Mais cela reste une idée.
Des sous vêtements simples pour hommes et femmes. Les hommes n'ont pas de chaussettes... Ca serait bien.
Il y a l'option du mariage. J'ai vu la proposition de robe de mariées. Très bonne idée. Et le costume de mariage pour homme ? Un smoking? Cela peut être un smoking simple, ou alors un smoking queue de pie, pourquoi pas ?
Des costumes cravates pour hommes et femmes pourquoi pas aussi ?
Enfin je suis très roleplay et il y a pas mal de personnes qui en font également. Plus de contenus de vêtements sur le sport, ou les métiers ça serait bien.

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Hello,
The idea of making clothes is good. There is already a topic on this subject, so it should not become a copy of the same topic, with the same requests without interest, filled with requests for ugly clothes. We are in a game, but still. And why, always propose to women vulgar clothes? So there is something for everyone, it's true. But it lacks elegant outfits. Being sexy does not necessarily mean showing everything.
Beautiful elegant dresses, for everyday life, or for the evening. Skirts or pants suits. This is elegant.
Already some basic clothes, that everybody uses every day, it would not be bad.
Let's think in a logical and efficient way. The 3DXChat world is made on islands. Then we create our maps according to our imagination (houses, clubs, cities, resorts, etc.). Maybe put on some beach clothes? Sandals, swimsuits, flowered shirts, pareos, that kind of things, straw hats or panama hats. Wetsuits even why not. Well, after that you can't swim underwater. But it remains an idea.
Simple underwear for men and women. Men don't have socks... That would be nice.
There is the option of marriage. I saw the proposal for wedding dresses. Very good idea. What about the men's wedding suit? A tuxedo? It can be a simple tuxedo, or a tuxedo, why not?
Tie suits for men and women why not too?
I mean, I'm very roleplay and there are quite a few people who do that too. More content about sportswear, or jobs would be nice.

well... if the game not allow you make the dresses longer than your knees, the "sexy" might be the only choice you can think. and elegant not means "non-sexy" or "ugly", this post it's not a simply copy of the old one. I'm just wondering about how ppl think about these clothes I'm gonna made and make sure what I have to make first.

for beach clothes, I think we already got pretty much of them,---bikini, swimsuit, hawaii shirt(seriously, we just need a floral print for that), sun glasses, all we need it's just scandals and panama hats---those are some good ideas~ I'll try to make it after

for the tie suit, or "office wear", there is already some way to make the male avatar a office wear in game, I can try to make an individual tie for male avatar, but for female avatar's "OL suit"... i'm more perfer this way  

well... it's mainly about the "longer" pencil skirt and shirt......uwu

and for the wedding... due to the game doesn't have any physics for clothes, so I have to make the dress shorter... and here's the result:

it's also cute and elegant... but might need a lotta work on texture lol

and at last... just incase if you think the gothy costumes might be ugly...

ta-daa~~poison could also sweet as candeh~

anyway it might take a while to work on all of em, and it depends on devs to decide add them in game or not. I'll start working after the poll is over and make some little surprise while I'm making the list ~

2 minutes ago, pomme said:

what a superb dress ... you don't really need a seam on the belly to be professional.
why can't you go so long that it's a problem the dress slips on the floor ... what do you work with so you can't do it. I can understand after that in this game it is not possible to create elements sliding slightly on the ground. ideas are good but cannot be carried out. we see the result with the hair. thank you for giving your creations which can give more physics to this game

actually the fabric physics/dress physics are not into this game yet, so that's why we can't have the dresses longer than knee--- that will make the avatar "walk through" it I guess

1 minute ago, Pandorra said:

Robe

Nice idea! but I think we already have some clothes like this in game...?

And for the length... I'm sorry but I'm afraid that I can't make it this long

8 minutes ago, Diana Prince said:

That would be awesome Luna!

And how about some superhero costumes? Wonder Woman, ahem

actually we can already make wonder woman costume in game(Except for the headband), you can use the corset and latex bikini to make the costume for wonder woman. But unfortunately, I can't make a costume 100% same as her because of the legal/copyright problem...