Loruna

14 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

But to be able to write a comission in patreon, we need, first, to "support" the patreon  account (i think) (in loruna's case 5€ per month minimum if we trust one of your posts), it mean we need to pay to request poses. 

Now the question is how many lesbians/gays (as in the previous post we was targetting these two groups) will want to pay to have an amount of poses a bit higher than usual (if devs accept them) ? Not to mention that this "boosted" amount of poses would not even match the number of poses the others groups have for free (after paying the fee for the game like everyone)

Another point to take in, having players making few additional poses for lesbians or gays is ok, but would the thevs accept to make some "orientation exclusive" poses ? I don't think. All the updates with poses we have since years now contain hetero poses then a "FF" version of this hetero pose. And all the supposed lesbian poses we have are anal. Why ? Simple: If they do them vaginal, they can't give them to transexual. So instead, they do a TF or TT anal pose, then if lesbians want to use it, well, it's not a problem, after all lesbians have a pose they don't have to complain.

 

Ps: If the devs read this, just a request. When you use porn actors/actresses to create a pose, try to find some that don't act like porn actors. Almost all the licking poses (by exemple) are clearly poorly played by the actors/tresses. Personally, when i lick a pussy i don't turn my head so there is space to place a camera shooting the action

I think you missunderstand this whole idea behind Patreon. Its something where you can support other people for their work. I added this commission thing just to give something in return.
That doesnt mean, that you have to "pay" for the poses. I will keep creating poses even if noone commission anything. And FF poses are on my prio as I said in my last two posts as well.
Its completely up to you if you want to support me on Patreon or not. Just know that its my freetime where I create those poses. Yes I decided so and I am happy with it. But there are people out there, who want to support me, because I do that. This has nothing to do with "paying for poses". Its more like "supporting the pose creator".

@Aliviax Thank you for your words. Honestly the only reason why I created patreon is, because some friends asked me how they could support my work.
And in the end, I created that. First it was only the T1 thing. But I created the other two aswell because I got daily at least 10 pose ideas from people.
So on that way, people can support me and even request a pose they would love to have. The lesbian pose is for free because its my top prio to do them so people like @Leeloo are happy.
Thing is... I am no lesbian and more interested in Men. My imaginations for lesbian poses is a bit lacking, so... thats why I asked my lesbian friend for advice

3 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

this patreon thing for the poses will totally kill the number of lesbian poses made unless a lesbian pay for some. Happy changes... 3DX is close to become Achat 3.0

And what exactly has patreon to do with lesbian poses?

Just so you know. I just finished some days ago a FFF pose, two infact, for the couch. Its just cuddling but better than nothing.
And I am in contact with a lesbian to get ideas for such poses. Stop being so unpatient... lesbian are not the only group of people in this game.

39 minutes ago, Aliviax said:

Example some of the latest poses i think was from loruna but poster dont have hyer name ..anyways not important lol 

Its true that my name doesnt get stated anymore on the poster but I dont really care. I dont create poses to get "famous" or something. I just want to push the game and make it more fun for everyone. What I want is to hear, that my poses get used much

People always complain about this bad communication and yes, that is in some way true. BUT if I would be in the shoes of the devs, I wouldnt talk to this community either.
Some of you remember somewhat 2 years ago when the servers were down for couple of days and we all saw the shitstorm in this forum.
Whatever the devs will say or post in here, it will get hated. If Gizmo says "we bring this and that into the game" people will be like: "Yea just like the pose editor?" and stuff like that.
For me its way better when they proof their love to this game through updates and stable services.
I barely hear anyone in this Forum thanking our Devs that the Servers are really stable now. 
At least I had not once a DC caused by the servers, but noone is thanking them. The only thing they hear is complains. And they are human as we are. At some point they are just tired of it.
This lack of communication is something we as community are to blame ASWELL. We are not completely responsible for it, but we take a huge part in it.
Yes we paying them, but that gives us not the right to treat them like that.

And about this raping thing. They cant just put this word into the ban list because this term gets used much more than you think.
I, for one, use it now and then in BDSM. When my holes get destroyed I sometimes use this term to describe a really hard fuck. It doesnt mean that I get raped then.
People complaining that it took so long... but it took only 2 days. Its not like they can just rightclick on the room and ban that person. It is a bit more than that.
And Lisa has nothing to do with that. She is for graphic content only. If you report to her, she can only tell that to Gizmo and he has to ban that person then.
Of course this takes a bit. In the end, that room and player got banned.

Just my two cents to this topic^^

4 minutes ago, Tsela said:

I would handle it just fine in any case, and many others would, don't think so highly of yourselves. It's just ridiculous

Lol. I said "people like me" to address the other players that create poses for the game. I dont "think so highly" of myself.

To get you straight Tsela.... you want the devs to create half made poses, upload them to the game and letting the players create their own poses?

Why not letting the devs, or people like me, doing full made poses and upload them to the game and playing with them directly?
And if you want your own poses, as said, learn to animate. And if you are to lazy for that, then just suggest poses you want to see.

Ohhh before I forget: I have to do any pose in any combination that is possible. For example: If I work on an anal pose, I also have to make sure it is also a vaginal pose (if possible) AND in every sexual combination. MM, FF, FM. So... every pose are 4 animations. And if I do vaginal pose aswell, 8 animations. This has to be in that pose editor aswell. Thats way to much work for the results that would come from it.

When this topic comes up and I read things like "they just need to implement it" I always asking myself... are those people really thinking this through?
The quality check that I have to go through to submit a pose is big. Little things can be a reason that I have to work on the pose again.
So... that means, if the pose editor comes to pass, Lisa would have to check many animations and most of then would be send back because of issues.
And we are not talking about 10 animations. 3DX has 1000s of people. Many of them will try it. Its just not possible to get that to work.

Besides that. As some already stated. If you truly want to create poses, hit that youtube link and search for 3dsMax guides and learn animating.
If you truly want to do that, it wouldnt be a problem for you to learn it. I for one, did learn everything from YouTube. Though I started that some years ago^^

Nipple and breast plays/kissing/sucking is not doable. As Alivia posted the pics you can see how the poses are created
The size, that the women model has is the base size for every pose. If we would create a sucking pose with that breast size, it would only look good with that size ingame aswell.
But since we have big, gigantic but also small  very small breast sizes, it will look awkward for them. Either sucking the air, or diving into the breast... literally

Thats the reason, why there is no breast kissing/sucking pose.

13 hours ago, westt said:

I have a question about this.  Should I use "my" or "his"?

EX:  /me stroking his cock   or  /me stroking my cock 

/me slapping his ass  or  /me slapping my ass

/me shoving his cock into your xxx  or /me shoving my cock into your xxx

/me sliding his fingers into your xxx  or  /me sliding my fingers into your xxx

I for one would prefer "my".

The reason is, that I feel its more personally. If you write "his" you are describing what your avi does with your partner.
But if you write "my" then you describe what you are doing with your partner and for me, that is more deeply. More connected to each other

But honestly. For me it doesnt really matter if "my" or "his/her". I write in "my" form because I just like it more.
The important thing though is, to get your emote right. I think this "my" or "his/her" thing shouldnt be that big of a deal.

I personally hate reaaaally much two things when it comes to RP and emotes:

1. When people starting to write for me. For example, when my partner writes in his emote that I moan louder as he thrusts harder. Why should I even put effort in this, when he does all the work for me. Boring as hell

2. When my partner doesnt wait until I am finished writing. It makes me uncomfortable when my partners doesnt wait for me to finish my emote. Because that can lead into awkward situations. Like this: I send an emote that says "Loruna grabs my both nips and playing with them" but then my partner, just before I can send my emote, sends "xxx bends forward and sucks on the left nip". Which one is now the emote you are continuing on? I guess you get what I am saying

Just now, Atalas said:

Probably you have a problem reading what I said.

Sure they replied now. Looks like DDOS was the only thing bringing him out to say something atleast,

while mum's the word about stuff otherwise. For example about pose editor promised years ago, even if it was asked by several people many-many times. Responsive? you are ridiculous.

He just got DDOS-ed which finally smoked him out to say something

Always this "they promised the pose editor". They only SAID they want to do that. But ever thought on the idea that they dropped it? Devs in any other game do drop things they announced to do many times. The only mistake what I see there is, that they didnt announce if it got dropped or not. But since we got no pose editor up until now, I assume it is pretty much dropped.

Its not rocket science, but its not "relatively easy" aswell. It depends on what animations you do.

Single BDSM poses are easy to do since they have not much movement. Like kneeling. (They are already finished and send to Lisa btw)

But if you do a pose with two or even three people, it gets a bit more harder. I work on one pose for at least one day to make it look realistic and passing the quality check. (Tho I am very easily distracted and I always have 3dx up when I work on the poses  )

You cant just state its easy, while you also cant state its super hard. It all depends on the animator and the animation which is in the making.

I agree with you here Xizl that the first person is a bit more... dunno... directly and just better in my opinion. What I do is, I start the first few words in third person and transition then into first person. Would look like that:

Loruna humms slightly with the hug, while I start to caress your back aswell

It combines both and then you dont need a extra option for it... because I fear, when this option comes to play, everybody would use different colors and we would get a rainbow colored WC xD

6 hours ago, Dallas said:

For people that have been in game for years now compared to 2014 or 2013, I am in heaven. I am pleased with the work and forward progress of the developers of late. Bugs need to be fixed yes, more stuff for everyone sure. But compared to back in the past with only having 3 public worlds and 2 apartments that were limited for editing, and I wont even remark on the poses we had back then, this game is evolving very nicely for me at least. No server issues to speak of, the game runs more efficiently for most peoples PCs, bugs are not game changers or show stoppers, a world editor where we are only limited in size by PC performance, (yeah i pay rent for my land at SL and it sucks and I still get nickle and dime'd to death there)

 

.... so I say well done to all the peeps involved in giving us new cool stuff.

For me, the reason I keep coming back aside from my friends, and we all have to remember this, is the top notch graphics, AVI's, Sex, general movement and stunning worlds. I have yet to see a game out there that comes close for the money we pay for this game (xmas special) and what we receive for our membership.

IMHO only

-Dallas

Thank you! Finally someone says what I think. In my opinion, this game develops pretty well. And I think this game isi ncredible stable. Other online games have weekly maintenances to keep that stable state. If 3dx would implement that aswell, that would be the dream. But still, without those maintenances, the server barely crashes. Some will say now, that they crash often, but you are wrong. Since 2 months straight, if not longer, the servers are always up.

There are many bugs, no one would ever deny that, and they should be fixxed... but people calling this game worse than it is. As @Ross the RoberT said. No wonder that the devs dont look into the forums that often, if they only hear a shitshow. Of course criticism is important, but not with any update they bring and for like the 100th time. Especially when it comes to the pose editor. They never said when it comes, they only said it will come. (correct me please, if I am wrong here. Not a forum camper ) But still, people complaining after every update, that the pose editor is still not up.

Just imagine: Your Kid says on the vacation trip every 5 minutes "are we finally there?". You get annoyed very fast, I guess. I say... lets relax a bit and enjoy the game as it is. We all have hopes and wishes for it, but the devs decide if it becomes true or not. Complaining all the time, will bring you nothing but stress for yourself.

27 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

Nice pose, but if it's to give us the same weird "kiss" than the last pose on the couch, it's useless

I am really sorry that you dont like it. Just so you know: Those were my very first poses I ever created. So be a bit more patient. Or... better idea. Do it yourself if you think you can do it better  

And in addition. I have created two entire FF poses. Yes they are cuddle but better than nothing, right? And I already planned true FF sex posed to do. But as I said, I have to first get to used to those kind of animations. I did work with 3D animations before, but not sex related. And for your question: Yes I am in contact with Lisa and I already fixing that kiss problem  

5 hours ago, Leathium said:

I have to admit the last 3 poses are one of the best we got since a while, I would love if the bed one had an option of handjob included, and a sofa one with insertion animations, but I really appreciate the nice work. @Loruna

Happy to hear you like them!

Tbh. the bed BJ pose was based on the idea sucking the cock in an exhausted manner after a long sex session  The sofa pose is already in planning to be also for penetrating. BUT I thought like... cuddle poses are way less and therefore more priority.

I do like the update aswell. Tho I dont really see exactly what changed with the breasts shape but it does look better. And the haircuts is not mine. But I guess we can fight for ours over tastes xD

But I do hope that there will be another christmas update and a bit bigger. But I guess thats only a dream 

5 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

That don't explain why there is breast play poses in chathouse and not in 3DX lol. They could do "static" breastplay poses in 3DX too. There should be a way for them to make the hand position set to the place where the nipple is, no matter the size of the breasts. But i'm not a programer so maybe i'm wrong.

The poses are created with a standard breast size. The betty breast size. Every pose is created with that. That's what I mean with static. The hand cannot move or being adjust to the breast size or the nipple position. That's not possible with this system. As I said. Its like a video clip that gets repeated over and over again. Chathouse has a different system. The hand follows a path along the body and adjust to the breast size. But not in 3dx. They have to change the way how they do the poses and only then it will be possible. 

34 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

In chathouse they have breasts play poses and it work pretty well, no matter the size of the breasts. So if they can do it in chathouse, why wouldn't it be possible in 3DX ?

Because they have interactive poses. You start one and without a break or something, you can switch within that pose to a different one. Grabbing breast for example. That means the poses are not static. The ones in 3dx are. They are like video clips that you play over and over again. They have a loop if you watch them closly. And as long as that is the system of 3dx poses, breastplays won't happen.

4 hours ago, JenC said:

I was thinking about this a little while ago. For those that have been around a while, pre world builder there was a bug with one of the lounge poses where the breast size went to the default Betty size, but as soon as you changed or stopped that pose the breasts would revert back to your selected size, and as weve seen also with the lounge pose when they converted the MF doggy to FF, the females back was stretched to line up the pose. 

With this in mind, its obvious that body part dimensions can be changed on either model when inside the editor for the pose, so they could have all sorts of nipple play using the default size when in that pose. I know some wouldnt be happy with that, but Im sure plenty would love to have it like that instead of nothing at all.

Actually there is a simular bug in terms of breast size. One of the newer MMF pose would do the same. But infact, your breast size will stay at the default Betty size. But in my opinion they shouldn't do poses based on bugs and glitches. They should change the way of poses so they can add additional things like butt slapping for example. To make the poses more interactive and not just clicking an animation and be done with it, you know?

Sadly this wont happen unless they change the way of creating poses. The poses are fix animations. Only the Head can be moved when you press the moaning button. And because of the different sizes of breasts, it will look awkward for some sizes.

For a better understanding I made 3 pictures. All 3 shows the same pose but with different sizes of breast. (Its the cuddling mf pose on the couch where the guy massages the breast)

First one is with the size which the animations are created with: https://i.gyazo.com/b9a9b90425a22bc3cc1fc6641772c7a0.png

The second is with maxed size breasts and here you can see how the hand clips into the breast: https://i.gyazo.com/fb262cb6bed11f19863d1b727a4ca39d.png

The third is with minimized size breasts and here the hand just grabs air: https://i.gyazo.com/2cad9fe837d15c7d705b0c0f0415866b.png

And now imagine your face would suck air or clip into breasts. Not really "romantic" huh? So, until the devs find a way to fix or adjust the pose to the breast size, we will never get any nipple sucking or boobjob poses sadly. I'd love to see them aswell.

3 hours ago, Twiggy said:

See, just as expected, and do I really have to say about the male avis I had and what they were used for again, and that they never saw the outside of my room or had any friends or even met anyone. That they were only there for like a few days. That like other women we had them for trying new poses, and that there was only a couple that I had and had named them in these forums. And also that yourself knows that because you checked them up on Pandora. I have nothing to hide and never had, you can try make me look like something I am not all you want, do you think I didn't expect that from you, and everyone who knows you knows what you are like. So if you think it really bothers me think again. I knew you would come back with this as I know it would be hard for you to come up with something new with the lack of intelligence you have. 

Oh and be careful Rob, banned people from the forum are not meant to come back, all we have to do is show it is you and you will be gone again, like your many other forum accounts that were banned.

You know, you and I were never really on the same page xD But on this we are kinda on the same one. It bothered me since I started to play here, that it is kind of accepted when male playing as female, with or without the hint in the profile. But as soon as a women has a male avi, she is instantly on the "fake" page. Never really liked it and understood that. There are women out there, who would like to be a men now and then. But it seems that isn't even accepted at all in here, sadly. 

31 minutes ago, THX said:

I'm a bit confused.

 

Are you stating the Devs are open to supplying the UV maps to their meshes to create clothes with? To texture?

I'm stating nothing. I don't know how the devs actually do those clothes. But I guess, if you have the models, it is pretty easy to do.^^

12 minutes ago, Twiggy said:

Yes I understand that and didn't think you would be able to hand them out, but thought it was worth a try. The thread you linked to that Ash created has kinks to a file that Frenchtouch made available which does not have the correct models, they are standard 3DS models where I am about 99% sure the 3DX models have some changes. It's good to know that you were able to get the correct models, others had tried with no success doing the same you did, but that was well over 2 years ago, was around 4 years ago. Back then they didn't even seem to want to give out any information let alone the models. All people were getting told is their samples were in the wrong format and didn't seem to matter if they were good or not. Back then it just seemed they really were not interested in having people make clothes for them. Ash tried doing what he could with that thread but he didn't seem to get a lot of help from the devs, he had to modify it several times to get it to where it is as people pointed out problems. Maybe the devs just didn't understand what people were asking for or needed to be able to do things like clothes. I am only guessing here but it seemed like they tried the clothes on the 3DX models and when they didn't fit they didn't wake up that people need the model to be able to make the clothes to fit. Or as I said before they just really weren't that interested at that time.

I was actually very surprised when he send them to me. I thought it was worth a shot but didn't expect it back then. Maybe, when the people wanted to create clothes, the devs weren't interested in clothes but people for poses and animations. Because clothes are very quickly done if you have the meshes. But animations are a bit more complicated. Maybe they didn't want to moderate those clothes files in addition. But I can only do assumptions here.

In the end, it didn't got me anything since my poses and animations I've created, never found the way into the game sadly. But, when I take a look on them now, I can understand it a bit xD Only the one, which I made the picture of, is quite okay for being part of the game xD

14 minutes ago, Twiggy said:

Thanks :), Yes that does have the body mesh, which a lot of people tried to get to be able to make clothes, you need that model to do so, or at least be able to make things like dresses and such. The .max file can be loaded into several different programs for creating clothes, it is a file that belongs to 3DS Max but is a fairly standard file that lots will load. Are you able to hand it out to interested people, I am sure there still would be some that would be interested in making clothes if they had those models to fit them to. Also if you know where it may be available maybe would be an idea to talk to Ash to see if he can update his how to do custom content thread in this forum.

I don't know, if I am allowed to hand them out. I had to send a portfolio to gizmo for proofing my "skills" in animation in order to get the models. I don't think, that he want them to be spread to everyone. But on the other hand, there is a entire thread for it: 

I'd love to share them, but as said. I don't want to get in trouble for sharing them without permission. They still belong to gizmo, after all