Room Thief Shaming

[JessicaX]

Every single thread that gets derailed.. and yes i mean EVERY SINGLE THREAD that gets derailed and turns into insults and bickering, there is always one person who is part of it, and it's always the same person.

 

Coincidence? I think not. 

[HeatherK]

he is a troll... don't expect more.

 

I know who he is but he does legitimately have good points to make on occasion and as much as he wants to put a label on something I am the type to resist labels because I am always changing and cannot be so readily labeled.  So I only referred to trolls in a generality and not to RobT specifically because I think he has more to him than he generally cares to show.  

[Brett Smith]

Are you going to cry? You guys are really taking people copying rooms in a sex game far too serious. You would think your house was broken into or your dog was stolen. Lighten up, its a game. All that stress is bad for you

 

LOL My though exactly. I mean how serious this thing can get? It's a fucking game for goodness sake. It's not our lives. Some people here needs to grow up really bad. We are not saving or shaping lives here. We play. It's a game! Please lighten up you lot!

[JessicaX]

report that person. see what happens. I do find it funny you are saying that because you generally are involved in every bickering thread and are ALWAYS calling someone some name yet crying when people respond. boo hoo

 

The irony is too much to ignore. 

 

[JessicaX]

LOL My though exactly. I mean how serious this thing can get? It's a fucking game for goodness sake. It's not our lives. Some people here needs to grow up really bad. We are not saving or shaping lives here. We play. It's a game! Please lighten up you lot!

 

You were caught up in drama over virtual porn studios and movies and virtual porn actors/actresses. And you are going to tell us to lighten up and not take things serious?

 

Or is it only a serious issue when it affects you? 

[Xandisweet]

Pretty sure it was BigMac who started the bickering. Just sayin.

[Brett Smith]

You were caught up in drama over virtual porn studios and movies and virtual porn actors/actresses. And you are going to tell us to lighten up and not take things serious?

 

Or is it only a serious issue when it affects you? 

 

A drama that I did not initiate and ultimately Gizmo cleared it off just fine so my topic on that subject is fairly clean, the one that started the mess has been banned from the forum. And it was left at that and I never got upset over any of it. FYI  

[JessicaX]

A drama that I did not initiate and ultimately Gizmo cleared it off just fine so my topic on that subject is fairly clean, the one that started the mess has been banned from the forum. And it was left at that and I never got upset over any of it. FYI

 

The issue i was talking about was a long time ago, not recent, but it really doesn't matter.

 

The point is... just because an issue doesn't affect you, doesn't mean there is no issue. You use 3dx as a sex simulator and porn studio.. great... knock yourself out. You don't know anything about me or anything about any of the other people who use 3dx and how or why we do what we do. It's none of your business what we do or how we use 3dx. You also have no right to tell anyone else what they should do or how they should do it. You also should have some common courtesy to not judge others in how they use 3dx. I don't think you would like hearing from anyone how sad it is that you see yourself as this big porn producer in an online fantasy game world.

 

We all have our own reasons for being here. We all get different things from here. Don't judge others unless you also want to be judged. 

[Lovers]

Yes :- 3DXchat is a 'sex game' ... Yes :- Gizmo states its a 'sex game'

 

No :- 3DXchat is not just a 'sex game' ... No :- Gizmo does not state its just a 'sex game'.

 

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Yes :- A Swiss army knife is a 'knife'  ... Yes :- The company state its a 'knife'.

 

No :-  A Swiss army knife is not just a 'knife'  ... No :- The company do not state its just a 'knife'.

 

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If I find issues with the cork screw, scissors etc, on the swiss army knife, I don't appreciate people saying 'stop moaning its a knife.

 

You can expand the above to encompass 3dxchat

[panCDCA]

You keep saying that but all I hear is that I have options so guess what?

NOT!

Heather, I love ya and I agree. It IS a SOCIAL game. IF you approach it as just a sex game, then you are truly missing out on making good friends and having some fun just socializing.

 

There are times, when yes, it can be "just a fuck me" game and there are times when that attitude becomes "ok, let's just socialize". 

 

I'm not trying to lecture, just talk from my own experiences. There are more times when socializing is needed more than the sex. Sometimes, it is easier to talk to a "friend" far removed from your reality  than it can be to talk to someone that is a couple blocks away.

 

That's just me. Everyone sees it differently as well we should since we are all individuals with our own opinions.

[panCDCA]

Trust isn’t really something you can guarantee in 3DX. But Atleast this way you can weed through friends pretty quickly if your room ends up out there

 

Exactly my point. You are in control of who had access and who didn't so let's say Heather came to my room and you didn't but you have my room...  how did you get it?

 

Plain and simple, I've said it in a couple of threads, IF you don't want your room stolen use the controls given to allow only those you choose. Your friends will be able to admire your work, and you can post pics here and show your builds off... but when you make it public for anyone, it's like someone going to an art museum, taking a picture and painting by numbers a duplicate. Does the forgered fake sell or get the recognition as the original? Hell no... It's easy to be a common thief, it is difficult and hard for people who have no talent to fake as they have that talent and when they have no talent and feel ashamed of that fact they feel the need to take credit from those that do. My opinion, IF someone needs to steal and work hard to fake they have talent just to build their self respect and self esteem are already living a lie and sadly sooner or later their conscience will suffer far more than the one stolen from.

 

 

[panCDCA]

 

Yes :- 3DXchat is a 'sex game' ... Yes :- Gizmo states its a 'sex game'

 

No :- 3DXchat is not just a 'sex game' ... No :- Gizmo does not state its just a 'sex game'.

 

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Yes :- A Swiss army knife is a 'knife'  ... Yes :- The company state its a 'knife'.

 

No :-  A Swiss army knife is not just a 'knife'  ... No :- The company do not state its just a 'knife'.

 

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If I find issues with the cork screw, scissors etc, on the swiss army knife, I don't appreciate people saying 'stop moaning its a knife.

 

You can expand the above to encompass 3dxchat

 

 

IF  it were "just a sex game" then we'd have far more fucking pose choices. The fact they are so limited and new ones are rare... shows that even the owners don't think of it as just a sex game.

[Llavia]

Mimimi, pay attention to me, mommy! That's all what boils down there. Don't think that pointing fingers at each other, trolling around and arguing whether it's a sex game or not will solve anything. It doesn't matter in the slightest. I'm reading this thread because I want to know what I can do to avoid room thievery and pinpoint room-stealers.

And there are already people that get me suspicious. Some porn producer who tries to get his hands on every single build he likes (instead of simply creating something original on his own), some trolls who just guide this thread into a totally wrong direction, etc etc. This tires me.

 

All I figured out for now is that I can open my room only for people I'm friends with. That way I at least know exactly who took over my designs.

Or I just bloat my room in file size, so that the thief crashes each time he/she wants to load the room. Meanwhile I've build my room in layers, like a puzzle, just putting the pieces together when loading the room via the merge-function. Loading a room in the editor takes far more performance then just opening it over the character.

Who would want to steal simple sex-rooms? You can create those in less then half an hour. It's always something people spent much time on. So no more public parties for the good rooms. Simple as that, even when it's sad.

[Mar Mohan]

It it were just a sex game there would be no-one shooting the breeze for hours in World Chat, running into friends and catching-up with them in local in the places they usually only go to, going to weddings and then later commiserating when they usually divorce, listing all their besties names on their profiles, building creations, bitching about people they don't like, throwing live DJ dance parties, forming long-standing clubs and gangs based on shared interests... none of that would happen. It would just be loads of people saying virtually nothing in public ever, and shagging everywhere. 3DX is so much more for many people. 3D X Chat which means it's all three it's 3D X rated due to the sex and Chat.  The owners say it's a sex game that's been pointed out and others say it's a game at the end of the day it is just that a game.  Without it you'd have to find someone else to do what you do here.  IMVU doesn't allow sexual contact and ban users who make the poses for it, so you're left with AChat, Second Life and Utherverse (RLC).  It's interesting how the stances people take on certain issues shines a light on who they are and what they are about. That's not an accurate statement.   I don't have to agree with something to understand or accept it.  Those who say it's only a sex game probably do not connect on any deep and meaningful personal level with other 3DX users and by denying the actual reality of many other people's daily experience in 3DX different to their own are also showing themselves to be entirely disrespectful, self-centred and possessing tunnel-vision If you bring to much emotion into this game you'll be crushed more than not, I've had deep and meaningful level with others on 3DX and well that didn't work so you learn to back away, those who cry loudest that all alts should be hidden and never exposed show that they themselves are probably fearful of what people will think or find out should their own behaviour be known about and are trying to keep something of their own behaviour hidden My alts are posted in my profile but that didn't matter prior to it someone posted my alts in WC and that person and a few others post peoples alts they can't stand in WC or do it back to that person because of what's been done to them, those who cry equally loudly that all alts should be totally transparent have probably been fucked-over rotten by someone concerning alts I'm had my share of being screwed over by alts and I just enjoy the game for what it is now because of it, getting to involved causes more issues than not just look at WC on a daily basis of the shitstorms on there and by who, those who say "it's only a game" show that they want to be able to behave in any way they like to others with no accountability At the end of the day it is a game it's not reality and it doesn't excuse peoples actions, those who say all rooms are fair game to be copied have probably never spent the time making something worth robbing and likely couldn't if they tried That's not true, I could make killer rooms but I don't because this is online and it can be taken no matter what measures are put into place, this is what I mean by understanding and accepting it, doesn't mean that I agree it's right that someone does it. What annoys me more than anything though is when people experience 3DX (which has many facets and ways to play it) in one way, then they automatically assume it is the same for every other person, but not only this, when confronted with the fact that others use the platform in a different way for a different purpose and experience, they actually deny it is true and state as fact that 3DX only exists as this or that along the lines of what they use it for We all play how we want to play it, while the owners say it's a sex game as that's what they created others use it for more than that but in the end it is a game and if the game was gone tomorrow this wouldn't exist and it would be onto something else.. It's a bit like religion, one person has one, another person has another, and the first person doesn't acknowledge the other's one, and doesn't feel comfortable until the second person adopts their own. Shows a total lack of respect for the second person for whom their religion is every bit as sacred and valid as the first persons Most religions and those who understand the one they are apart of don't care what another's religion is because they do acknowledge it's the ones that don't understand the religion and take a stance that that religion is the only one.  If you want a couple of examples look at Muslims there are ones that follow the Koran and ones that follow it that believe you don't follow it including others Muslims then you have to pay the price.. 3DX is whatever you want it to be for you, so it would be nice if people stopped labeling it just as whatever they use it for and even denying everyone else's reality at the same time. It's already been said for what I think above.

I'm sure each of us has had our shit end of the stick in the game, it's not all roses for everyone.  It's what we do and how react that makes a difference.  I just come on the game to enjoy it and have fun.  I keep away from the bullshit and it works for me.  I tell anyone to do the same just enjoy it and have fun.  If it gets to be to much, step back, take a deep breath and evaluate what you want from it.

[JenC]

It it were just a sex game there would be no-one shooting the breeze for hours in World Chat, running into friends and catching-up with them in local in the places they usually only go to, going to weddings and then later commiserating when they usually divorce, listing all their besties names on their profiles, building creations, bitching about people they don't like, throwing live DJ dance parties, forming long-standing clubs and gangs based on shared interests... none of that would happen. It would just be loads of people saying virtually nothing in public ever, and shagging everywhere. 3DX is so much more for many people. It's interesting how the stances people take on certain issues shines a light on who they are and what they are about. Those who say it's only a sex game probably do not connect on any deep and meaningful personal level with other 3DX users and by denying the actual reality of many other people's daily experience in 3DX different to their own are also showing themselves to be entirely disrespectful, self-centred and possessing tunnel-vision, those who cry loudest that all alts should be hidden and never exposed show that they themselves are probably fearful of what people will think or find out should their own behaviour be known about and are trying to keep something of their own behaviour hidden, those who cry equally loudly that all alts should be totally transparent have probably been fucked-over rotten by someone concerning alts, those who say "it's only a game" show that they want to be able to behave in any way they like to others with no accountability, those who say all rooms are fair game to be copied have probably never spent the time making something worth robbing and likely couldn't if they tried. What annoys me more than anything though is when people experience 3DX (which has many facets and ways to play it) in one way, then they automatically assume it is the same for every other person, but not only this, when confronted with the fact that others use the platform in a different way for a different purpose and experience, they actually deny it is true and state as fact that 3DX only exists as this or that along the lines of what they use it for. It's a bit like religion, one person has one, another person has another, and the first person doesn't acknowledge the other's one, and doesn't feel comfortable until the second person adopts their own. Shows a total lack of respect for the second person for whom their religion is every bit as sacred and valid as the first persons. 3DX is whatever you want it to be for you, so it would be nice if people stopped labeling it just as whatever they use it for and even denying everyone else's reality at the same time.

I think most understand there are varying reasons for participation, but I do feel some people try a little too hard to distance themselves from the reality of the platform and what it primarily is.

Just because you may not partake in that, doesnt mean you get to change the definition of what that platform is and its primary function.

Also, if youre not here for the naughty, youre really ripping yourself off as there are other platforms out there that offer the social/music aspect for a fraction or no cost at all.

[Lillianme]

I think Gizmo should have mentioned that rooms can be taken/stolen/copied what ever.. when he first gave us World editor.. or did he and i just missed it?

[Niblette]

This is kind of moving away from the topic, but lets be honest if they took out all the sex poses how many people would really stay? Also, its kind of funny when a guy who seems to spend all his time here hosting a gay/bi sex room, I think its called mandate now, wants to claim he is here mostly to "socialize" whatever maybe that's just me though.

[Lillianme]

he did. achilles asked about it before it was released. he responded.

 

 

Ah, there it is. Thanks!

[HeatherK]

All I figured out for now is that I can open my room only for people I'm friends with. That way I at least know exactly who took over my designs.

Or I just bloat my room in file size, so that the thief crashes each time he/she wants to load the room. Meanwhile I've build my room in layers, like a puzzle, just putting the pieces together when loading the room via the merge-function. Loading a room in the editor takes far more performance then just opening it over the character.

Who would want to steal simple sex-rooms? You can create those in less then half an hour. It's always something people spent much time on. So no more public parties for the good rooms. Simple as that, even when it's sad.

 

This is a misconception that will only cause more problems.

A person does not need to enter your room to steal it so you could end up blaming a friend for something they did not do and make problems for yourself.

I do not know the exact details of how someone steals a room that I could yet replicate the process myself but I do know enough of how the games works to know it can be done even by someone without a user account on 3DXChat.   I see no reason why someone without an account would steal  a room but the point is that your room data is stored in such a way that it can be downloaded by anyone that knows how.  I doubt iggying someone would prevent them from downloading your room data either but with the misconceptions on how it happens here those people you have blocked may be the guilty parties and claiming innocence because people keep stating false information on how to keep your room safe or how it is stolen.

Accept the idea that it can be taken  by anyone with the know how and that you cannot prevent it.   Your best protection is publishing pictures of your builds during development so that you can show it is your build before someone tries to claim they created it.  

The next best thing is to support each other and not visit rooms known to be stolen.   This is a dangerous area though because proof is difficult and someone you may trust could claim they created something they did not and the person already victimized gets screwed over.

Imagine how much worse the insult would be if not only your creation were stolen but everyone accused you of stealing it from the true thief and you began being blocked or unfriended?

 

Too much mis-information is being passed and repeated here and a lot of it by the victims who make statements saying that Gizmo said it is acceptable to steal rooms.  Anyone who purposely lies or distorts the truth to strengthen their argument lose all respectability in my eyes and no matter how wronged they were they will lose my support because they are behaving as bad as the thieves.  You cannot justify bad behavior because someone else treated you badly.  In this case I would define bad behavior as any behavior that carries the potential to cause harm to any situation-ally innocent party.

That being  said I do not mind whatsoever any steps taken against a guilty party but you cannot rely on what you think or have heard to establish that guilt or the real perpetrators will create more victims by playing on the bad behaviors of those self-righteous that think "by any means necessary" is a valid and acceptable way to live their life.

 

That's my soapbox speech for today.   Hopefully the only one.

Just remember, no good will come from lies and deception, you only make the trolls happy and everyone else less so.

[Mar Mohan]

This is a misconception that will only cause more problems.

A person does not need to enter your room to steal it so you could end up blaming a friend for something they did not do and make problems for yourself.

I do not know the exact details of how someone steals a room that I could yet replicate the process myself but I do know enough of how the games works to know it can be done even by someone without a user account on 3DXChat.   I see no reason why someone without an account would steal  a room but the point is that your room data is stored in such a way that it can be downloaded by anyone that knows how.  I doubt iggying someone would prevent them from downloading your room data either but with the misconceptions on how it happens here those people you have blocked may be the guilty parties and claiming innocence because people keep stating false information on how to keep your room safe or how it is stolen.

Accept the idea that it can be taken  by anyone with the know how and that you cannot prevent it.   Your best protection is publishing pictures of your builds during development so that you can show it is your build before someone tries to claim they created it.  

The next best thing is to support each other and not visit rooms known to be stolen.   This is a dangerous area though because proof is difficult and someone you may trust could claim they created something they did not and the person already victimized gets screwed over.

Imagine how much worse the insult would be if not only your creation were stolen but everyone accused you of stealing it from the true thief and you began being blocked or unfriended?

 

Too much mis-information is being passed and repeated here and a lot of it by the victims who make statements saying that Gizmo said it is acceptable to steal rooms.  Anyone who purposely lies or distorts the truth to strengthen their argument lose all respectability in my eyes and no matter how wronged they were they will lose my support because they are behaving as bad as the thieves.  You cannot justify bad behavior because someone else treated you badly.  In this case I would define bad behavior as any behavior that carries the potential to cause harm to any situation-ally innocent party.

That being  said I do not mind whatsoever any steps taken against a guilty party but you cannot rely on what you think or have heard to establish that guilt or the real perpetrators will create more victims by playing on the bad behaviors of those self-righteous that think "by any means necessary" is a valid and acceptable way to live their life.

 

That's my soapbox speech for today.   Hopefully the only one.

Just remember, no good will come from lies and deception, you only make the trolls happy and everyone else less so.

Thank you, I've been saying that all along that there is more than one way to do it as it's online.

[Niblette]

I am not saying its a bad thing I think its a good thing for everyone to have a place here, but it just struck me as slightly hypocritical that the guy who runs a sex room 24/7 would be making a big fuse about this not being a sex game. I mean it could be a different type of room, and still be a place for the gay and bi community to meet, but it seems to be clearly setup as a sex room. I don't want to come off as offensive or be lumped in with other people though for saying that I really have no idea about any of the rest of it.

[Lovers]

Just because I am feeling contrary lol   .... is 3DXchat actually a 'Game' ?

[Niblette]

Just because I am feeling contrary lol   .... is 3DXchat actually a 'Game' ?

 

Hehee that could be a lot of the issue the interesting part which is the chat isn't really. 

[Briana]

Just because I am feeling contrary lol   .... is 3DXchat actually a 'Game' ?

idk...been a while i didn't get in. lol

[Niblette]

Ah I see I don't use 3DX as a sex game either, but I also wouldn't host a room that went against my personal view, or which might move 3DX in a direction contrary to how I though it should move. I think that really everyone has a different view on what should be expected from others here personally I expect nothing and try to treat everyone how they would like to be treated.