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The only children in this forum is you and your groupies ^^ and no, its slander, sry to tell you. 

 

Again how about you fight with Rob in your diary or his as it's your hate for him that is driving all this childish shit. I never had a prob with you but you now seem to want to pull me into your childish fight, all bc I'm friends with Rob. 

 

 

Anyway the whole dislike thing I really don't have a thought on it. Doesn't matter to me either way. I only commented on this thread bc someone likes to pull me into things. 

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Vaughan I appreciate that but I'm sorry I will post where I please. Also you telling me where to post isn't on topic either just saying. I did get onto the topic in my post after I said my piece to what caught my attention. 

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Then unfortunately you feed the issue of going off topic and driving people away because everything is swamped in drivel. 

 

I'm all for free speech and freedom and I dont care for moderation either myself but topics are made and given a subject for a reason.  You could PM me about above, I'll gladly answer you.

 

So if we dont have some kind of order here, or recognise what isnt on topic or not,  whats the point.?

And insults , arguments just crappy behaviour to someone just isnt very nice.

Dont be a part of the problem... be part of the solution.

 

And name calling  really?  When all we want is a nice forum?

PM is useful too. I dont need a public platform to tell people what I think of them.

 

I'm just asking nicely to make this place enjoyable.  Whats so wrong with that?

 

Seems the discussion has changed from the like button to keeping things on topic.   ...    Cool.  

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Now I'm all for keeping on topic but I will say this as I pointed out the OP is pointing out things without including others.  If you give your boss a report without all the information how can they decide what to do next or how to handle a situation.  Now I was on topic and pointed out the differences that I seen which Twiggy said that would be changed to reflect what I give.  I shouldn't have to find it as the information is there.  If you want a feature added give all the details that back it up.

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In the spirit of trying to make the forum a better and more mature place which allows adult discussion to take place without devolving into mud-slinging and thread derailment, I would like to point to something offered as a solution by those who are often talking about WC in the game itself. It is brought up time and again about trolling, spam, and has been discussed in the coming updates thread here. Those who do not support moderation of any kind or a chat tax, those who just want to leave things as they are with no changes whatsoever, always use the same argument - just ignore it, move on, close chat, don't look if you don't like it, etc etc etc. 'Let those who want to use WC use it and if you don't like the way it goes then ignore the thing completely.' Maybe some people here might try doing the same thing. Is it really necessary to respond to everything you do not like and comment again and again endlessly or post an attack or insult every single time someone you don't like personally offers input into a thread? Is it not possible just to act like an adult and read stuff and then just say nothing? Well I do it myself, so I know it is actually possible. Some people seem to either lack self-control or have some kind of OCD where they just cannot control their impulses to respond to posts endlessly and have the last word even when it usually does not contribute to the discussion's actual topic. You have nothing constructive to offer a conversation, or maybe you think a thread is pointless and you personally would not have created it, here's an idea, move on and let them discuss it without getting involved. Or maybe you wish to make a point that you disagree with this or that, have you considered making your point then just leaving it at that and not commenting any further having made your point, instead of trying to completely shut-down that person's viewpoint and making it all about who is right and who is wrong? (Sometimes there is no right and no wrong, just viewpoints or a subject is not just black and white and many people can all be right at the same time.) Maybe try keeping to the topic of the thread, respond and discuss in a healthy debate and offer content to keep the thread rolling and people's minds thinking, but if you are only posting because you do not like the person, or if you have nothing really constructive to offer the debate, maybe consider just saying nothing, exercising some self-control and moving-on to read other threads.

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The best moderation tool is ignoring the trolls....don't answer them.

About a dislike button: what for? Do you want to create more drama? useless

Bravo!

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I am sorry Mei but ignore only means you don’t see the lies and abuse that is posted. It does not stop the bullies doing it. Only the moderators can do that.

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If you cannot see it then you cannot be offended. I am taking leave from the forums. Y'all can degrade my character all ya want. Because the people who matter can contact me out of the forums. Peace

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I am sorry Mei but ignore only means you don’t see the lies and abuse that is posted. It does not stop the bullies doing it. Only the moderators can do that.

Let them say whatever they like. It’s on an Web based forum and in the grand scheme of things, equates to precisely “fuck all”.

 

It’ll only impact you if you let it..

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Well the flip side of that is,

 

To all those saying ignore the trolls and ignore those who respond to them and the forum is sunshine and roses. Why the fuck are you posting to say that, having clearly been following what’s going on? Surely you don’t give a shit because your ignores work fine and you aren’t affected by what goes on in the forum so step out and let it be a flame war?

 

I know you don’t think that way at all, just saying. It’s like walking in on a prison riot in progress to say “i’m not bothered by any of this”.

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I am sorry Mei but ignore only means you don’t see the lies and abuse that is posted. It does not stop the bullies doing it. Only the moderators can do that.

 

Ignoring is not feeding. It does not mean that you don't report.

 

You should read this

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

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Stupid people take revenge blindly.

Weak people who like to think of themselves as virtuous pretend to forgive to appear as such.

Weak people, or stupid people who like to think of themselves as strong, ignore.

 

Rational people:

They don’t forgive, because to forgive means to relinquish power and leverage. The only time a rational person forgives is when they know that the other will not forgive themselves. In that case to appear to forgive increases perceived virtue without sacrificing power.

They don’t ignore, because to ignore gives others power over you. They tolerate minor things, for to react to those shows weakness.

They don’t take revenge, for the vengeful are easily manipulated, revenge is personal, and it’s moronic to get personal when 80% of the population are too stupid to be held responsible for their own actions. Instead they establish consistent rules which act as impersonal facts. Actions must have consequences.

 

It’s like training animals. You aren’t mad at your dog for doing something wrong, but you signal to it that it was wrong to train him to act the way you want.

All of the above can be intelligent. Intelligence and stupidity/vanity are orthogonal concepts. Intelligence says nothing about what a person values and how reasonable they are. It only says how quickly they can think, and how complex the concepts they can grasp can be.

 

Intelligent people can be stupid, and unintelligent people can be rational. The latter just need a little more time to reach their conclusions and don’t have access to higher levels of abstraction.

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Stupid people take revenge blindly.

Weak people who like to think of themselves as virtuous pretend to forgive to appear as such.

Weak people, or stupid people who like to think of themselves as strong, ignore.

 

Rational people:

They don’t forgive, because to forgive means to relinquish power and leverage. The only time a rational person forgives is when they know that the other will not forgive themselves. In that case to appear to forgive increases perceived virtue without sacrificing power.

They don’t ignore, because to ignore gives others power over you. They tolerate minor things, for to react to those shows weakness.

They don’t take revenge, for the vengeful are easily manipulated, revenge is personal, and it’s moronic to get personal when 80% of the population are too stupid to be held responsible for their own actions. Instead they establish consistent rules which act as impersonal facts. Actions must have consequences.

 

It’s like training animals. You aren’t mad at your dog for doing something wrong, but you signal to it that it was wrong to train him to act the way you want.

All of the above can be intelligent. Intelligence and stupidity/vanity are orthogonal concepts. Intelligence says nothing about what a person values and how reasonable they are. It only says how quickly they can think, and how complex the concepts they can grasp can be.

 

Intelligent people can be stupid, and unintelligent people can be rational. The latter just need a little more time to reach their conclusions and don’t have access to higher levels of abstraction.

What an edgy childish chunk of text I just had read lol.

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What an edgy childish chunk of text I just had read lol.

I didn’t write it, sorry to disappoint. It’s from a clinical psychology quora blog. Different people have different perspectives. I see you turned it into an attempt to insult though. Perhaps making a point to contradict that opinion would have been more productive to the discussion.

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You muddy the water, no. The point is that the rules are not applied to a small group of people. This is wrong and is a cause of the behaviour on this forum. The small group of people know this and take advantage to harass, bully and abuse. Some of us want this to stop. Ignore does not prevent it, only prevents seeing it. Removal of abuse would not affect the people who carry on regardless. It only affect the people who bully.

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I am pretty sure at this point in the good vs evil debate everyone has sided with evil.

I haven’t,

I had a Luke episode 6 wobble but I think Managed with a lil Yoda help :)

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Bloody hell, KnobheadT! Do you understand that what you said above means that you see all women as whores who deserve to be slapped? Does this include the people you think might be women who you claim as friends. Actually I think you know all this but you say stuff like that because you think it’s funny. Violence towards women is a huge giggle ................ not.

 

To digress I think recent posts by the ‘man’ himself and his inner circle show who is likely to be an alt, who isn’t and who they are alts of. Simples really.

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You muddy the water, no. The point is that the rules are not applied to a small group of people. This is wrong and is a cause of the behaviour on this forum. The small group of people know this and take advantage to harass, bully and abuse. Some of us want this to stop. Ignore does not prevent it, only prevents seeing it. Removal of abuse would not affect the people who carry on regardless. It only affect the people who bully.

 

 

Bloody hell, KnobheadT! Do you understand that what you said above means that you see all women as whores who deserve to be slapped? Does this include the people you think might be women who you claim as friends. Actually I think you know all this but you say stuff like that because you think it’s funny. Violence towards women is a huge giggle ................ not.

 

To digress I think recent posts by the ‘man’ himself and his inner circle show who is likely to be an alt, who isn’t and who they are alts of. Simples really.

I only quoted it so if it's changed later, the actual comment exists.

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