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8 minutes ago, PAGOS said:

I'm sorry but you didn't quite understand what I meant.... if i want to enter a competition, I make sure that the whole structure belongs to me, To avoid the situation you are in now.

Fair point. Going forward that WILL be the case. I counted every single block in my room and ran the percentages of what was mine and what was used. I came up with 98.7% mine and 1.3% used.

I am joking obviously but you get my point. I dont think I used even remotely enough of other source material for my build to be lessened in any way. Now with that said... I agree and respect your overall point of how it should have been 100% mine in a competition atmosphere. Trust me it will be.

 

As to Kelsie... Why is it always the women that seem to have the most sense? Well usually 😛  I suppose thats why God could entrust women with 1 egg a month but decided to give men 180 million chances every single day 😛

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2 minutes ago, JustinCredible said:

Fair point. Going forward that WILL be the case. I counted every single block in my room and ran the percentages of what was mine and what was used. I came up with 98.7% mine and 1.3% used.

I am joking obviously but you get my point. I dont think I used even remotely enough of other source material for my build to be lessened in any way. Now with that said... I agree and respect your overall point of it being 100% mine in the future. 

 

As to Kelsie... Why is it always the women that seem to have the most sense? Well usually 😛  I suppose thats why God could entrust women with 1 egg a month but decided to give men 180 million chances every single day 😛

I wrote in my first reaction, I see no harm in using objects made by others, I take this as normal, but if there is a competition, Then I don't let anyone gossip, I prefer to go with my own structures, but Lovense was somewhat flexible about it., and as a result a lot of manipulation came into play, I hope next time this was a lesson to everyone...

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55 minutes ago, JustinCredible said:

 

I am a top builder here. Right along with PAGOS, you, and others that I really admire like SweetTia, Dallas, Torax, etc...

Except that neither Dallas, SweetTia or myself come on forum and self proclaming ourselves top builders...Number of downloads, number of views mean not much. You guys should all end this useless battle, cos noone will win at the end, and go back to world editor and create more and more. The best answer you can give is by building even better rooms, not to win a competition but for yourselves.

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1 minute ago, Torax said:

Except that neither Dallas, SweetTia or myself come on forum and self proclaming ourselves top builders...Number of downloads, number of views mean not much. You guys should all end this useless battle, cos noone will win at the end, and go back to world editor and create more and more. The best answer you can give is by building even better rooms, not to win a competition but for yourselves.

Being a top builder here needs to be put in perspective.... its a sex game. Not sure how much more I can say it. I really dont take myself to seriously so if you think I do then you are getting the wrong idea and it was my failure by not making myself more clear. I do not consider anyone to be the best. I do not upload creations as a "look at me". If it was about that then I would surely upload much more then I do lol. What was once meant to be in "defense" of my work has turned into it looking like I'm boasting. Not the case. Please do not think I would ever consider myself ABOVE others. I am not wired that way and am not that sort of person. If anyone got that impression then I apologize. My responses were only intended to defend my work, my credibility, and my ability because I know the type of elaborate rooms I can create and I do love to sometimes share them with the public for their own free use. I do not tag or sign anything. I only met to say that I include myself in the family of experienced builders, not that I or anyone is the best. That title is so childish and simplistic.

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claim to be as good as this or that person

On 7/17/2022 at 5:21 PM, JustinCredible said:

I'll admit I did not read all of that. I got bored halfway through. I will slow this down because apparently you lack any comprehension at all. I found it VERRRRY tasteless when you got on here and thanked the voters prior to the competition even being over. You did not mention or congratulate anyone else on their work. It was alllllll about YOU. It was in poor form. It was like you were taking a bow before the results were all in. Its like someone literally has to shake you by your shoulders (and PAGOS to apparently) and tell you "HEY...  YOU AINT ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS".  And you know what?  NEITHER AM I.

So that is when I got on here. To feel like I had to defend the value in my work. I also did the right thing by complimenting the 3rd finalist as well so that his world could shine as well. And I never stated that my world "IS" the best. I said I like mine the best. Two completely different statements. My statement is subjective. Not objective. Learn the difference before you comment.

I am a top builder here. Right along with PAGOS, you, and others that I really admire like SweetTia, Dallas, Torox, etc... I will not have my "ability" and "capability" thrown through the mud because i used a couple props that had very little to do with a single room. I mean seriously lol. The insults you are trying to sling my way are elementary school level. Were supposed to be adults right? I love building and I love the product that the devs are making. HOWEVER... Lets not get lost that THIS IS A MERE SEX GAME. And were arguing over a competition lmao. That is what is pathetic. 

So let me say this again in hopes that precious egos can be left in tact...  Oliver I congratulated right away on the win and I will do it again. Your build is quality. When I stated I liked mine better it was my own opinion and in no way was me trying to indicate that mine was factually better. I dont think any room was truly BETTER than the other. We all have tastes and preferences. I think your room lacked enough LOVENSE advertisement but like others stated mine had "3" props used that were not mine. DQ me to then. Maybe the other guy should have won lol. 

In the next contest I participate in I will not use a single block from anyone. I will spend much more time on it to really STRIVE for victory and last but not least... I will NOT be taking part in the online discussion of said contest other than to say "Thank you to everyone" or "congratulations to winner".  Its just not worth the drama or the headache.

Again I do not pretend to of handled this perfectly. Maybe some "opinions" are left better unsaid. But when one's work feels like its being minimized. It kind of PISSES you off. Just look at Olivers reaction when he thought I was minimizing his work. And tbh.. I can see where you would get that impression and I did apologize. But I KNOW I'm one of the better builders on here (i seem to be the only one who admits that doesnt mean much lol) and I know that room was very visually clean and appealing. To have it mocked because it had literally 3 props from others in it I think is lazy bullying lol. We can talk about morals and ethics and whatever, but cmon now.

I just ask we get on with our lives. yes?

"Congratulations to all those who participated with me, including from the pre-selections: a thought for all those who were not selected and who probably had a lot of good ideas to implement"

Those were my words. And I'm sorry if before that I hurt you by thanking people after the vote, but it had to be done then: I explained why, but you didn't take it into account, read again if you don't want to bother with this message again. I don't want to go around in circles with you. A contest is not the same as building for yourself or your friends where everything is possible, it requires a certain ethic, a sportsmanship one could say. These principles should exist everywhere, there is no reason to minimize their importance just because it's a sex game. I'm not judging you as a person, I'm just saying that, after all you may have been a bit naive or clumsy. Don't dismiss it out of hand: people take a long time to build here, it's only fair to ask their permission and give credits to the authors when you pretend to build a room for a contest. I don't criticize your skills or comment on your statements when you compare yourself to other builders. Nobody considers that you are not experienced, I reassure you, no need to doubt. It's good if you drew the right conclusions and that you take advantage of it in the future, and I agree that it's tiring all this drama, let's move on, I had already suggested it to you, I hope it's the right one now.

Note (edit): pretend to win a build contest starts with not pretending to create a room when you use lots of previous personal files, lots of downloaded files. If you take all that out of your room, and the provided logos and sex toys, you have maybe 3% left. You have build almost nothing for this contest, and it is very indecent to get on your high horse here. Also, using your "KelsieKade" profile to sing your praises or claim to be as good as this or that person is not the best way to showcase your talents. Don't take people for idiots. It's better to work in the editor, and hard, and better to stop the mythomania right now. I'm sick of all this bullshit. I'm just paying you back now, without holding back from saying things, you have earned it.

 

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37 minutes ago, Torax said:

 

I must remind JustimCredible that I didn't make the rules up, he's not happy with the rules? He didn't make a small slip in the contest, it was colossal.

He broke the rule of all sites that support the game in using unshared objects in his room and giving free to everyone.
PAGOS was very gentlemanly and assertive in saying this to him.

What is the punishment that the builders who do this will receive?
The Banishing.

Remove his room from your site as it is more than proven that PAGOS did not allow him to distribute it for free to everyone.

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1 minute ago, Tiazinha said:

I must remind JustimCredible that I didn't make the rules up, he's not happy with the rules? He didn't make a small slip in the contest, it was colossal.

He broke the rule of all sites that support the game in using unshared objects in his room and giving free to everyone.
PAGOS was very gentlemanly and assertive in saying this to him.

What is the punishment that the builders who do this will receive?
The Banishing.

Remove his room from your site as it is more than proven that PAGOS did not allow him to distribute it for free to everyone.

I will kindly ask you to mind your own business and not tell me what I should do or not. If someone has a claim, they can contact me and we will solve the issue, it happened before and will happen again. 

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7 minutes ago, Torax said:

I will kindly ask you to mind your own business and not tell me what I should do or not. If someone has a claim, they can contact me and we will solve the issue, it happened before and will happen again. 

Dear friends, please calm down; I didn't complain to anyone, and it's fine on my part, we are only criticizing here, I think Open a new World Editor page and start revealing your talents.... This topic is Black Hole

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12 minutes ago, Torax said:

Peço gentilmente que cuide da sua vida e não me diga o que devo fazer ou não. Se alguém tiver uma reclamação, pode entrar em contato comigo e resolveremos o problema, aconteceu antes e acontecerá novamente. 

No one will contact you because you already noticed the problem here. So I kindly ask you to wake up and do your job.

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My lord she is trying far to hard. I am not arguing the overall point of using a shared item in a competitive build. Not arguing that at all. Im arguing the validity of my build in general. Hope that makes sense. 

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7 minutes ago, Tiazinha said:

No one will contact you because you already noticed the problem here. So I kindly ask you to wake up and do your job.

Read Pagos's answer. Noone contacted me because he decided not to claim and move on. You should do the same.

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5 minutes ago, PAGOS said:

Queridos amigos, por favor, acalmem-se; Não reclamei com ninguém, e tudo bem da minha parte, estamos apenas criticando aqui, acho que Abra uma nova página do Editor Mundial e comece a revelar seus talentos... Este tópico é Black Hole

I apologize to you PAGOS, You are right. You are very polite and assertive maintaining conviction, I need to learn that from you I admit.

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im seldom here but when i see this post i would like to put in some words lol ^^


Everyone of us is doing our job (if that so called a JOB) to be in the best interest for all. 

Torax personally watch out any fault submission MANUALLY. Not just approve it blindly and ofc who can be 100% sure of people trying to cheat, only themselves know and to judge their conscience within their action. Not us to judge whoever. 

So please leave own opinion to own selves and speak in respect to everyone, yes sometimes we like and unlike some people, but still, words easily hurt and provoke emotions. 

Im here to pay my respect to all builders who build, who share and who are OK with stuff sometimes being used and not return with thank you. Sometimes we build and let it out freely and yay. 

Of course a lot more thanks to those who support builder's work with sincerity and credits.

It's life, we move on and keep creativity going on. 

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48 minutes ago, Torax said:

Read Pagos's answer. Noone contacted me because he decided not to claim and move on. You should do the same.

Got it, but you're here right? Was I talking to you now or was it someone else?

So what do you need to understand that I made a claim? Schedule a meeting?

As this conversation has lost its rational sense, I close the matter here.

 

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12 minutes ago, Tiazinha said:

Got it, but you're here right? Was I talking to you now or was it someone else?

So what do you need to understand that I made a claim? Schedule a meeting?

As this conversation has lost its rational sense, I close the matter here.

 

Yes and I answer to you.

As far as I know, you are Tiazinha, not Justin who built the room, not Pagos who did the speakers, as far as I know you are not administrator of any website, nor are you 3dx developer, Lovense team or Redji, and still you try to teach me how to run my website, teach jury and organizer how to run their contest, and putting claim for Pagos while he doesn't  have issue?

The only one here who isn't rational, is you Tiazinha.

Your claim was "Justin used Pagos's item" right?  So now we got Pagos's answer ( nice one), and he is fine, case closed.

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I think most all builders have used a thing here or there in a build. I decided in a poor decision to use 3 meaningless props in a contest build and I do apologize. I say meaningless not because they arn't great props but because its not like they were needed, they provide little impact to the room in general. I am not defending the moral conflict but merely defending the quality and credibility of my work. I do not think other builds are better merely because they were 100% original and not 98-99% original like mine. Nor are they more valid since the contest did say we could use others work with permission. An open sourced download is permission in my book. However PAGOS's speaker was NOT.

So...  I apologize to PAGOS since his speaker wasn't open sourced (though i did receive it through him long ago), to the forum for my part in the drama, and to oliver if he felt I attacked his work through defending my own. I build for "ME" because it is a stress reliever for me and because I enjoy it. I share because I care for the community. I compete because I enjoy good competition.

I never declared myself the BEST builder. That's stupid and crazy. Nobody is the best. I have so much respect for other great builders on here like SweetTia, Angie, Torox, Dallas, PAGOS, etc etc etc...  Some of you have inspired me to keep working at it because I would be inspired by the amazing builds I would see. All I can hope for is those same great builders in the community think of me in likewise terms. Its just about the mutual respect. But if not then oh well, all I can do is ME. I know what i can do and at the end of the day, I use building as a way to cope and calm down from a stressful day at work in the ER.

 

Okay then... moving on... I already got some AMAZING build ideas for the upcoming waterfalls. Anyone else excited?

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29 minutes ago, Torax said:

Sim e eu respondo a você.

Até onde eu sei, você é a Tiazinha, não o Justin que construiu a sala, nem o Pagos que fez os alto-falantes, pelo que eu sei você não é administrador de nenhum site, nem é desenvolvedor 3dx, equipe Lovense ou Redji, e ainda você tenta me ensinar como administrar meu site, ensina o júri e o organizador a administrar seu concurso e reivindicar Pagos enquanto ele não tem problema?

A única aqui que não é racional é você Tiazinha.

Sua reclamação foi "Justin usou o item de Pagos" certo? Então agora temos a resposta de Pagos (boa), e ele está bem, caso encerrado.

Did you deduce all this yourself? We're finally making progress, you know how to identify people's names and that's a good start.
  Now you come on behalf of PAGOS to say that everything is fine, do you know how to read? Or want to cover up the case.

I am saying for the second time that the matter is closed

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3 minutes ago, JustinCredible said:

I think most all builders have used a thing here or there in a build. I decided in a poor decision to use 3 meaningless props in a contest build and I do apologize. I say meaningless not because they arn't great props but because its not like they were needed, they provide little impact to the room in general. I am not defending the moral conflict but merely defending the quality and credibility of my work. I do not think other builds are better merely because they were 100% original and not 98-99% original like mine. Nor are they more valid since the contest did say we could use others work with permission. An open sourced download is permission in my book. However PAGOS's speaker was NOT.

So...  I apologize to PAGOS since his speaker wasn't open sourced (though i did receive it through him long ago), to the forum for my part in the drama, and to oliver if he felt I attacked his work through defending my own. I build for "ME" because it is a stress reliever for me and because I enjoy it. I share because I care for the community. I compete because I enjoy good competition.

I never declared myself the BEST builder. That's stupid and crazy. Nobody is the best. I have so much respect for other great builders on here like SweetTia, Angie, Torox, Dallas, PAGOS, etc etc etc...  Some of you have inspired me to keep working at it because I would be inspired by the amazing builds I would see. All I can hope for is those same great builders in the community think of me in likewise terms. Its just about the mutual respect. But if not then oh well, all I can do is ME. I know what i can do and at the end of the day, I use building as a way to cope and calm down from a stressful day at work in the ER.

 

Okay then... moving on... I already got some AMAZING build ideas for the upcoming waterfalls. Anyone else excited?

Very well said :)

I think all this drama needs a team building exercise. How about a contest where there are teams of two. Where two people have to Collab and work together on a build. I know what people might say, different visions and styles could clash but I think that adds to the challenge. I think Justin is right. You are all top builders. So why not team up and see what can be created? maybe Justin and Torox, Tiazinha and Oliver (couldn't resist sorry lol), and so on and so on?

No? okay was just what I thought was a creative idea. Ill shut up now lol

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4 minutes ago, Tiazinha said:

Did you deduce all this yourself? We're finally making progress, you know how to identify people's names and that's a good start.
  Now you come on behalf of PAGOS to say that everything is fine, do you know how to read? Or want to cover up the case.

Show me where Pagos has an issue and where he asks me to remove the room from the website.

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1 minute ago, Torax said:

Mostre-me onde o Pagos tem um problema e peça-me para remover a sala do site.

 I think you didn't know how to read again ,I lost interest in talking to you.I'm saying goodbye.

the matter is closed For the third time.

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3 minutes ago, Tiazinha said:

 I think you didn't know how to read again ,I lost interest in talking to you.I'm saying goodbye.

the matter is closed For the third time.

Simply quote me the part where he requests the room to be removed and I will do it, simple as that.

Meanwhile congrats again to all builders who participated, and I am out.

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25 minutes ago, Torax said:

Basta me citar a parte em que ele solicita a remoção do quarto e eu o farei, simples assim.

Entretanto parabéns novamente a todos os construtores que participaram, e estou fora.

I'll mind my own business now.🤣
I think everything is clear.
I've already intruded too much on your honest work, sorry for the inconvenience and good luck.

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39 minutes ago, KelsieKade said:

Muito bem dito:)

Acho que todo esse drama precisa de um exercício de construção de equipe. Que tal um concurso onde há equipes de dois. Onde duas pessoas precisam colaborar e trabalhar juntas em uma compilação. Eu sei o que as pessoas podem dizer, diferentes visões e estilos podem colidir, mas acho que isso aumenta o desafio. Acho que Justin está certo. Vocês são todos os principais construtores. Então, por que não se juntar e ver o que pode ser criado? talvez Justin e Torox, Tiazinha e Oliver (não resisti desculpa rs), e por aí vai e por aí vai?

Não? ok foi apenas o que eu pensei que era uma ideia criativa. Vou calar a boca agora lol

I loved your idea, honestly this was ideal, I've also thought the same way as you, Two people also increases the quality of the room. But the individualism of a hegemony does not allow this.

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On 7/17/2022 at 10:29 AM, OliverX said:

Haha you're totally wrong about my room Allalon :)) My room seems to be a 3Mo room but it is not. My file: 730ko exactly. But I take it as a compliment because I know you respect my work.

I kept in mind that the logos of the participating groups will have to be added. I'll still refine them to make them lighter, despite the comfortable margin I made for the room (I hope to have time, the organization is behind schedule), and I will carefully choose their location to minimize their impact on the graphic cards.

Btw, I use different techniques to minimize the weight (the same room could be 3X heavier), which I've been experimenting with in many tests (it's a bit of an obsession haha ! It's also the surest way to progress in your abilities). This is one of the reasons why, beyond the ethical concern, I realize each object of my rooms myself. On the impact of weight you're right but not entirely in my opinion here in this game: the weight does affect the fluidity globally from what I have seen, the worst being of course the number of elements the graphics card has to display "at the same time" and the different effects used, which combined can be terrible. Each effect has a different impact depending on its nature, the number of blocks used (it's not proportional) and the location. It all depends on the work of the developers with Unity, as players we can only rely on our tests to draw conclusions.
I know you are worried about lag in my room, but I built it with an eye on the percentage of activity of my graphics card. My room configuration allows me to have both a panorama (the most dangerous as a builder when it's busy, it was my challenge here), and quite a few effects (including reflections in the center). The tests I made with small PCs allow me to be confident but I am still curious to see things live, nothing will replace the experience in situation.. I would like to point out that with a lot of people, it is normal that the fluidity is more difficult. We just have to minimize this impact. It's very exciting to try to find the right balance !

 

Ehm maybe you read bad bro...i try to defend you and explain your position lol...i don't know how much is your room but Tiazinha told you 3mb room lag...she wrong lag is not from how much is heavy the room :) read carefully :D

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Anyway i just see a challenge over an other challenge :) this contest create in 1 day the God of Builder ahahah. Take life easy guys OliverX have done a good builder i can say i dont like something, i can disapprove something else or the way they judge is normal is like soccer... but is my personal view, and I'm not God to say what is correct or what is not. But c'mon be serious the Oliver's Build are really impressive and this is not the first one he's done a lot of impressive buildings. Ok maybe all similar in style and colour, but this is his style, who we are to judge? Contest is finish so everyone i think in the end are happy, who not...is him problem...maybe try to be better in real life not in a game it will help :D

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