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#1 DarkFairy

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 06:05 PM



What is a troll? Why do trolls troll? How can they be helped?

No point to make this time. I think I have made the points I wanted. Perhaps only to those who hear the notes unplayed. I think this is interesting anyway. It’s basic, food for thought or even discussion?

Don’t turn it into a war, ok?
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#2 TamsinUK

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 06:22 PM

Is the answer to trolling here to start a thread about something like butt hair?

A very interesting video.
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#3 Xandisweet

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:02 PM

Basic forum trolling 101: start a thread about trolling
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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:14 PM

Basic forum trolling 101: start a thread about trolling


Not at all. Please feel free to contribute to the subject matter of the thread instead. You’ll know when i’m trolling trust me.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:17 PM

Not at all. Please feel free to contribute to the subject matter of the thread instead. You’ll know when i’m trolling trust me.


It was on topic.
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#6 Sleeper_Girl

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:23 PM

I don't think this video said anything that most of us don't already know, all of us are crazy, that is not news, though I did have to agree a certain troll here would get his ass kicked if he tried to say some of the things he says to people in person instead of saying them hiding behind his computer anonymously, and maybe that is part of the thrill for him, knowing they can't do anything about it, and in the case of these forums, reporting does nothing either when it comes to him, I bet he gets a hard on from that, granted a very small hard on, but still an erection.


Edited by Sleeper_Girl, 23 January 2019 - 08:45 PM.

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#7 DarkFairy

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:29 PM

It was on topic.


Yet offered nothing to the discussion really honey. I’d like to hear everyone’s thoughts. If you’re answering my question with, “yes Vicki, you are” That’s fine, you can say that. Just please offer some commentary, let’s discuss it.

Here’s a great example of how people with opposing views can have an adult discourse



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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:34 PM

Apparently anybody can be a troll and many do - most trolling is done by people who have never previously trolled. A community defines what it classes as trolling. Trolling peaks monday (mood apparently). Once somebody has been trolled others pile on.


Corrected date from Sunday to Monday. Added comment about first time trolls.
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#9 DarkFairy

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:45 PM

Thanks AHT. Ok let’s explore that?

The first clip appears to think only proper moderation and enforced rules can control it. I’m interested in whether that’s true or whether a community can police itself.

From what i’ve seen here i’d say that’s not possible so does it require that authority dynamic?

Has this community defined what trolling is? As you say anyone can be a troll. My thread title was partly literal. I’m not going to report anyone for calling me one, my behaviour is entirely deliberate. Feel free to use me as an example to avoid mentioning anyone else and the ensuing flame wars.

#10 DarkFairy

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:49 PM

nah, you arent a troll, just a master baiter.


Do you mean that as a literal contribution or a slightly puerile double entendre? Feel free to expand on it, as I said, from me at least, report free zone here. Just try not to be too insulting i’m still a person.

#11 DarkFairy

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:59 PM

Pretty self explanitory but i like the good alt/bad alt thing you have going on. I would really like to dicuss this with you however due to family matters i dont have the time. Enjoy the search for the meaning of trolls and such.

That’s a shame your thoughts would have been interesting. I hope you’ll find time some time.

Everyone is always welcome to pm me or talk to me in game if you’re uncomfortable with discussing things here. I’m really not a complete bitch.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:00 PM

Build tha Pay WALL!

 

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:01 PM

You can police yourself. Re-read what you write and wait before responding. One system created by Civil asks posters to review other peoples' comments for civility, before they are asked to review their own. Apparently many then edit their post. Alas we have no such system.

To an extent we are policed. Who dare post an opposing view to the group?
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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:03 PM

Build tha Pay WALL!
 
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Allie, are you trolling a topic about trolls? ;) That is funny that gif, but please offer some input.
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#15 Bridget_Cleary

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:03 PM

It’s usually a good idea to get the information first before commenting on it.

I think most of us have good idea of what behaviour we don’t want on the forums. Most of it is already covered by the rules, yeah. Anyway we’re all adults so we ought to be able to self moderate. I got the message that there is always somebody who’ll start it off and then a load of other people pile in. Let’s assume the initiator will set it going anyway, like it’s what they have to do. The onus falls on the followers not to join in.

If nobody joins in the initiator doesn’t get his,or her but probably his, payback. Even if somebody replies the initiator remains alone if his followers don’t join in.

I’m not sure i’ve been very clear there, sorry. I suppose i’m saying that the troll only gets power if he’s supported.

Thinking about 3dxChat, I think it’s pretty obvious which characters are alts and which aren’t, which should make it easier to isolate the initiator in any thread. Also thinking here, don’t react if you’re called JimBob, Billy, Simon or anything else that isn’t you. Bullies point their fingers and call people names over and over again. They do other thing to people over and over again. It’s not the thing itself that’s the problem particularly, it’s the constant repetition. Like it grinds you down. That is report time. Maybe from the reports Gizmo might realise what it is that pisses people off. Will he do anything, I haven’t a clue but I have a horrid feeling that he won’t until he starts to feel it in his pocket.
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#16 Xandisweet

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:03 PM

Yet offered nothing to the discussion really honey. I’d like to hear everyone’s thoughts. If you’re answering my question with, “yes Vicki, you are” That’s fine, you can say that. Just please offer some commentary, let’s discuss it.

Here’s a great example of how people with opposing views can have an adult discourse


My contribution is just as important as yours, and since this is the internet... well, neither really has much value. If you care to discuss this on a serious note then I'm down 100%, but the odds of this being an actual debate instead of a baited post in the attempt to stir up shit are pretty low. I will say though it's probably a 9 on the top 10 ways of baiting those for your own pleasure.
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#17 DarkFairy

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:03 PM

oh and one last thing, as far as the report free zone, i could care less about reports. so that wouldnt convince me to post or not post. who knows, maybe one day i will contribute to the thread in a meaningful way. until then i wish you luck


Sure, thank you. Welcome back anytime.

#18 Bridget_Cleary

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:15 PM

Some people are sooooooooo predictable. Did you actually read my post? Let’s wait and see who supports you.

#19 Xandisweet

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:16 PM

Happy trolling, y'all. And have a wonderful day. ;)

#20 Sleeper_Girl

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 09:18 PM

Also thinking here, don’t react if you’re called JimBob, Billy, Simon or anything else that isn’t you. Bullies point their fingers and call people names over and over again. They do other thing to people over and over again. 

 

If I read it correctly, I think earlier I was told that I was you. Having a hard time keeping all the different people I am supposed to be organized. But if I am you then this means I am talking to myself right now, which means I guess I have finally transcended to his majesty's level of chatting  trolling on forums.


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