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I'm not a Suga foot or your Honey or Baby. Lets be clear on that. If your going to attempt to converse with me you either do so with respect or not at all. This issue is
not about DJ's having an ego. It is about You and your ego This thread and all it's cocky responses make it abundantly clear.
People have genuinely taken time to give you honest real feed back and all your interested in is your own view point that serves your own requirements.
 
As I have already said "You talk about don't judge you before getting to know you first. Don't ignore you before knowing you. But your actions ingame and your
unwillingess to accept other peoples views speaks volumes about the person you are".
 
Enjoy featuring well on ignore lists. Because believe me you will hit mine if we ever cross paths.
 
Abbey ♡

Woaaaaahhh ! Thank you for stepping out of your shy shell to defend the game's integrity !!! 
 
Saving 3DX, one cold at a time !!!
 
     
 

It is as I said in your blog post, but you obviously missed my point.
 
Not everyone is seeing this game as pure sex game. People socialize here, have romantic dates or just chill out with their friends.
 
While it's a sex game it's also a social game, and as it is with any social game, people have their comfort zones and are annoyed if someone like you is trying to force their way of gameplay on them.
 
Everyone is free to play their game as they want. There are no rules what you do and what you don't, but it's general netiquette to respect other people's ways to play the game.
 
Of course you are free to hump anywhere you like, but every action creates a reaction. So if people get offended by you in their comfort zone it's totally up to them to simply ignore the way you play your game (and you of course) .
 
So what's the deal?
 
At one hand you want to play the game as you like... At the other hand you get offended as soon as someone decides they don't want to be part of your game?
 
The statement it's a sex game and there will be sex and of course everywhere will surely thinning out people you see on the long run.
 
As example someone is having a romantic date on Love Island and you decide its slutty Sunday again and because of that you are poked all over their table, don't you think it's a little rude of you too?
 
There are 4 words that will keep your life in 3DX easy.
 
 
Give respect. Get respect
 
 
So you could either take my advise and respect people's comfort zone or you can keep going as you think how it should be done.
 
Just don't complain about people being upset and filtering you out by hitting the ignore button.

Wow hat's off to those of you are pictured here and are still to be seen in our world three years on. Take a bow the resilient ones...

Staci with her sultry dance. I was like six months into my sentence of hard time.

Yeah it was some good times there! Kinda makes you feel old.
 
It's always nice to bump into some old names.

If it's free why complain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFzz6EZmkq8

My boy Bailey <3
 

Dunno if that counts?

http://youtu.be/it_04dk_97E

http://youtu.be/8fijggq5R6w

Never refuted that, just pointed out that those flourished from that moment. I invite you to have a look in Events&Activities, years 2013 and 2014 ... The difference of events pre and post march 2014 (month where mods quit), along with the difference of event organizers.
Anyway, that's besides the point.
 
 
Did the players request for public dj'ing ? or did the chief-mod work it out on her own with the developpment ? I'd love to have some clearance on that.
I cannot remember any active insistence from playerbase in that order.
 
 
 
 
No one said they ever promised anything. But they now decide to turn a somewhat blind eye to a beneficial free service on the back of members, not actively willing to help them block those in-built addons.
 
Why now and not before? Because game grows, circumstances change, material changed to provide better service, laws get stricter, the download button didn't exist then... So you have to adapt yourself accordingly.
You seem to be wanting to argue only for the sake of arguing, so in another example, one asks for intelligence and respect one day, and fails to present it the next day. Happens.
You adapt, especially if you are running a serious business.
 
You have it for free, so even if you don't want to pay for it, and nobody asked you to pay for it, at least help protect it and don't turn a blind eye. (that's cost free)
 
 
From the bug report topic :
 
 
SGD never promised you a none geo-locked radio station. Yes you listen to something else, but why bother calling it stupid here ? Maybe you don't request it to be changed, but it's what's implied, as it would be a better experience. This discussion is the same to an extent.
 
 
Again, they could easily say, we do not wish to provide ad-free music or public dj'ing. Deal with it.  Which they do not, and want to keep benefiting from the feature, without investing anything, and going through some fishy methods. Can't have the cake and eat it too.

Sage you can go back a long way and find places in this forum where I have said SGD should pay for the licensing for music in this game.
You will find where I have questioned who is paying for the licenses and when Achilles has said he is, I have said that Gizmo should be the one paying.
When I 1st started in this game the music in public places was supplied by a service which I forget the name of, but that service suddenly was not available.
Very likely and maybe someone can confirm it, was not available because they were done for being not licensed.
From memory Achilles and Ash got involved in putting a server together and supplying that music to public areas and some new stations were added to the selection list in our rooms, voluntary maybe, or maybe Gizmo asked for their help.
At that time I can also remember the licensing being talked about and Achilles saying something to the effect he is happy to cover it for now.
I can remember questioning if he had obtained the correct licensing and saying then again that he should not be the one paying for it.
 
But forget about all that, do you really think that the music in public places in 3DXChat should be supplied by and the licensing for that music be paid by players in the game.
There is a huge question over the legalities in how Gizmo is going about it now, and if you want my opinion it is way off being legal.
 
Achilles supplied his help freely for so long, under a lot of opposition, some of that were people saying players should not be in charge of that and it should be SGD.
Recent events, namely the download button called for SGD to support him, and he didn't get that support.
He withdrew his services and the game was left in a mess as far as music in public places is concerned.
Now SGD is going about replacing it in a real fucked up way, avoiding their responsibilities and trying to pass them off on players.
Not only is it wrong for him to do that but it also means we, the player base will not get effective and properly established music in public areas.
Also a big question mark will remain over the legalities of it.
 
In all honesty Sage, I don't see the point of your argument.

I will not be speaking of what's going on in user rooms, only the main locations. Cause nobody cares what happens in user rooms.
 
Dj'ing on public maps, existed very early on, when the game mods where still there, with one person cherry picking who or what not could play. Which was most likely some limited ressource stream server, and was probably far from meeting any proper legalities.
 
Current system is external to 3DXchat, respecting all legal aspects, or trying to at best. System fully funded by Achilles, system that wanted to expand the possibility for more people to be able to DJ in public locations., and for the community to come together. Many "official djs" for public maps have also contributed by providing songs, they paid for, to fill up the server. This system is also exclusively used by 3dxchat, whose pockets are the only ones benefitting from it.
 
Remember inbetween, that RadioTunes pulled the plugged on its licensing for public use. Ever since, all public maps, wardrobe, have had carefully created playlists fitting each locations, and with songs given by those djs for the community. Last year same time, the estimation for songs only was around 3k €, so it has surely grown since. And playlists without advertisings !
 
Now that is in jeopardy because the game doesn't protect that system, from the upcoming in-built download option. It's then also their right to pull it out.
 
Nobody can deny that public location entertainment has given the game a great boost, through music and public events. Everyone can look up how the events in game have fllourished on public locations from the moment Achilles took over, and the moment members were even allowed to organize events.
 
Same free service, that has been repeatedly bashed on by the community.
 
Yes nobody asked those djs to provide it, but considering 3Dx benefits from it, they should try and protect that service, or be met with complaints about ads, bad music... All that taken into consideration, it's only fair for 3Dx to cover those server costs from there on, if they want proper service.
 
So just like nobody asked those djs to provide anything, nobody is forcing 3Dx to do anything in the end. It remains their choice.
 
 
They just have to face the music for it
 
 
 
On a side note :
 
 
Is this a demonstration of how to discuss an issue intelligently ? I recall that aspect being important to you.

Well... It could be so easy do it very "cheap" and central with one System this means one License for 3DXChat ^^
 
Imagine there are 20 DJ's and this all have 20 separate Licenses how expensive that would be total...
And this all only because they are not ready to support her DJ's with the costs.
 
And this all after this they got the most advertising and member entertaining with Music and parties...
 
If they share only 50cent of each Member could there be enough money for Licenses, Content, Server costs etc.
I could Imagine no one of the members would complain if the membership comes 50cent higher monthly if they get endless and the newest Music Songs + Legal Live DJ Support as a kind of internal 3DXChat Radio for all Public Locations.
 
Again, I don't want earn money! The work and invested time could have been free forever.
But I also do not want it to cost me a lot of money, or that I burn my money only for the benefit of the game owners pocket.
 
In the past was the DJ's very thankful to have the stream sources for free + total automatic. But this was only a Bonus of me, because more wasn't possible
 
Well it's useless to discuss longer here because it's everything said...

Actually, I'm not. Did you know that in the US the government has gone after Google and Microsoft for allowing links to pirated content in their search results? Which is why you may see a disclaimer letting you know some results are removed for this reason. They were mere providers of a service. I'm not a lawyer, I do know that the laws are changing and becoming stricter. I'm not going to argue liabilities ty as I've made that argument elsewhere. My point was and is you have offered no protections to the DJs that they will not have to worry about having their music stolen which was the primary point in the streams changing in the first place. Also, you have opened it up to anyone meaning that there are no controls in place. Will my ip be shown on the streaming site is an example.
 
 
Still my point stands. I can't stop anyone from applying I just ask that they think twice as those that did a service for years were discarded like trash instead of trying to come to a resolution for "the better of 3DX".

Not that I ever asked for it but I never recieved a nice bonus and discount for the past 3 years. Not even a thank you. I cant speak for my other team mates but I am very dissapointed about how things are handled now.
It's fishy and is a kick in the ass for thoose that have worked for you for free the past 3 - 4 years.
 
But good luck to the new DJ's whoever that will be

I would advise people not to fall down the rabbit hole. For starters, you are being asked to complete an agreement that absolves them of any liability. We know that hacks may or may not allow someone to illegally download your music but hey as long as SGD is covered. There was a thread about it and hacks that was deleted but trust your document will be filed. Where is the agreement to protect you?
 
I'd also suggest that you look for the thread in which Chilles, a member who did this for free since nearly the beginning posted about the cost involved and for what? A nice loogey/FU later? Nah. Eff that. Not to mention no xgold bonus or half off gameplay gets you nowhere near even breaking even. Hell you can't even get tips that can later be cashed out for real money. Why the hell can SGD not take up this responsibility? It would be cheaper for them versus say five DJs actually being able to broadcast legally. That agreement I. My opinion is a CYA tactic so that if the music is illegal they are not liable. They've not asked for proof of license or anything else. This is a google doc that's fishy as hell. That said I think this and other responses shows how much you'll be appreciated anyway.
 
And I'm sorry Gizmo but this is about enhancing your game for free on the backs of the community. How long have people being asking about DJing? You know that music has a big impact on gameplay.

Alright, seriously.  When you barbecue perfection... and you reek (although I'm not sure reek is revered enough of a word for this) of charcoal, mesquite, and burgers....  How does one keep themselves from self-cannibalism?  I mean, seriously....  I can't be the only person who changes afterward... and then you're doing laundry, and suddenly get an impulse to devour your shirt you happened to have been wearing at that particular moment.
 
There's just something about a good grilling that makes everything else go on standby for a moment.
 
Obviously, cooking, particularly grilling, is one of my escapes and hobbies.  Anyone else share a common relation to their own hobbies?  Something that leaves a lasting feeling of bliss (in my book, bliss being defined as the scent of charcoal, wood infusion, and charred or broiled to perfection meat and vegetables.)?
 
Ciao,
    -L