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On 12/15/2019 at 12:46 PM, Malvasiah said:

@ Kemistry

Your last sentence in your statement above we can totally agree on! :)

That said, i will add this:

I understood perfectly well what you said and meant  about the relation between quality of client and his willingness to pay a higher price. I doubt that this can be taken as a general rule, as my own experiences tells me something different, and in fact i believe that just the same rule goes for clients as for escorts. A highpaying client can be a disaster as well as a lowpaying can be great. In the end its all about the chemistry between client and girl. But let that rest.

I didnt say that you said that low price escorts are lower quality, i said you implied it, which is semantically a very different thing. Reading your last answer, in your text copied from Cybersex, certainly gave me that impression. But i do realize that its taken out of another context, and was probably partly ment as an advertisement for you and your establishment.

Happy Whoring! :)

Well said Malvasia..The ever increasing gifts, seems more like a ploy, to more gifts in hoping, or using it to say more gitts make you the best , this is absolutely not true!!

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On 12/15/2019 at 4:01 AM, Kemistry said:

m really enjoying the different views on Virtual Escorting described here. But with one point in the posting of robo I totally disagree. The statement that increasing gift number is killing the escort business, the joy and fun of the escorts and is even a sign of greed, can't be more wrong. And that for several reasons:

 

On 12/15/2019 at 4:01 AM, Kemistry said:

ell, I certainly don't need gifts to pay my bills, so it’s not about that. The main thing is that I just love sex. 
I like to pleasure people and I like to serve them. I'm experimental and enjoy discovering new things. I get horny from making other people horny.
And to be paid, and treated as a paid whore, is a big turn on for me. It's my personal kink, and that’s why I can deliver such a good experience.

Cybersex:
What does it cost to hire you?

Kemistry:
My usual service rate is five gifts for 30 minutes. That’s an “all in” price, and it’s only for hard BDSM, threesomes and gangbangs that I charge anything
extra.
And yes, I’m expensive. There are girls out there who offer everything for a single gift, and that’s their prerogative, but to my mind cheap services aren’t valued.
My clients and I appreciate and respect each other because they recognize I’m worth the price. Someone who’s looking to get their cock into the cheapest hole
possible really needn’t come visit me, or any of the White Breeze girls for that matter.

 

 MMm ….Kemistry, I take your points, and respect your ideas, however as a frequent flier of  the many Brothels in 3dx over the years...... I do with all respect disagree with you. I get the idea that if you charge a person a ridiculous number of gifts, for a little bit of decent descriptive role playing fun and  naughtiness..... you may weed out the bad clients and just get the  dedicated descriptive hardcore clients that you like, and enjoy, but this is not always the case. A client that appreciates brothels in 3dx, and enjoys your services generally will always give you his best as well as appreciate yours. I think if a lady is doing it, because  its her fantasy  to do it, likes getting some payment , gifts, tips and money for it in return , but her main objective is the fantasy, of providing the service, she  will not care so much on gift prices, and more on her interaction with her client.... With myself I always found it a huge turn on!, when I felt or believed that , I am turning her on..... as well..... and this factor made me think, at least in my mind that she (ESCORT) is really enjoying this, and truly.....She likes to do it for just the fun and pleasure and not the price...….and due to the next thought that she is  really doing this  for just her joy, this  would make me even more turned on again.....which ultimately would lead to a fantastic experience for both, and would build and show chemistry, which many clients crave, to becoming a regular for that girl that gave such a believable experience. I think a decent price for any escort on the max, should be maybe  5 to 6 gifts for an hour and 3 to 4 for a half, but again, I think that is still high, but 5 gifts for a half is insanely high!...…..  I better be getting all I can eat and drink and a free night in the damn Penthouse at the Taj Mahal for that price ..lol……..I have to say, I have tired out plenty of escorts over the years in game, and I have to say, lately I have met a few freelancers that only charge, 1 to 2 gifts, for a unlimited amount of time, and will  say they were pretty damn good..... Another thing about todays Brothels besides the ridiculous pricing is the lack of  providing a  feeling of being  welcomed at times.. One thing I use to love about the old Garden, was all the ladies or someone would always greet me!!… Welcoming me to their place, and would make me feel right at home.... Pierrouss,  also did it well at the Palace, even when he was busy...…. which was usually most nights  but always made me feel at home.....lol….Malvasia and the girls did the same, made me feel like I was part of their family, and I miss (YOU ALL SO MUCH).....Hence why I became  almost  part of the furniture over time ..lol….Now  .EX was strictly business, but always in her own way welcomed clients ..And...I have to give a shoutout to the beautiful, and not forgotten...hehe... Miss( ChristineSimones)….. her place was pretty great too, good ladies and sweet slaves she punted out to her clients, who provided great fantasy, and fun for all.. By the way  I was a chosen favorite ..or so I would like to believe..or so  I have heard….lol....Anyways!!!...I am veering off topic here, I have to say that to get good clients, one must get to know her clients, make them feel at home, make them feel important, and those regulars you pick up, will earn your trust, and they will give you there loyalty and make for ever improving experiences in the future... So again to say, one has to be paid ever increasing gift prices to provide services to appreciating cliental is insulting!.... One main point I have to say, is Yes in game coins are not worth much, but Coins do cost real money.... and when someone is charging ridiculous prices, one will have to pay real money for game coins and hence gifts....Getting this Pricey, eventually people will just give up, because once your out of coins, one has to buy them with real funds to replace them in the game.. The high gifted ladies you see like malvasia, or morgaine or Layla, are  high, because they earned that by the hundreds of clients over the years, keeping in mind, most only charged one or two per client, so that's a lot of hard work on their part, and charging 10 gifts,  tallying 1000 in a  less then a month..... is absolutely not the same as those ladies, who worked so hard for so much, and received so  little in gifts., but A lot in experiances.. they did it purely for the joy and  experience then more for the monetary value...…..that's a WRAP!! … My take once again.!...… HaHa…..THE END OF THE ROBO SHOW!!!! STAY TUNED!

 

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Just some additional random thoughts... take them serious... or not.

Play your role
I think we agree that the gifts are ridiculously worthless. Its use is simply as a vehicel for a part of the Role Play. So everybody should use it in the way that fits their personal RP. I am a whore and I sell sex for money - for as much money I can get. That's my kink. And of course I will provide the best service possible; otherwise my customers won't pay me again.

A "cheap street whore" may give a fantastic "cheap street whore" performance for 1 gift, a "luxury escort" may give a fantastic "luxury escort" performance for 10 gifts. Both is fine. But if someone calls herself a whore and is providing high-end-services with "a feeling" and with "ambition" and with "devotion" and "dedication to the customer" for a ridiculous low amount of money, she should think about a "social worker roleplay" and stop calling herself a whore.
Don't act like a whore, don't want to be treated as a whore, but call yourself whore? That's obviously bullshit.

The "right" price - ingame economics
1 Gift is the equivalent of 8 bottles of beer. I would never ever do anything for 8 bottles of beer. Giving full service for the equivalent of 80 bottles of beer is also ridiculous, of course. But at least you can have a party with your colleagues.

Porsche vs. VW Golf
I'm from germany, so I have to use two things in every discussion, otherwise I will be expatriated: beer and cars. As for the beer, see above. Now for the cars. You can use a VW Golf to get from point A to point B. Or you can use a Porsche to get from point A to point B. The Porsche is five times more expensive than the Golf. Does that mean that you get from A to B five times faster or better or safer or ...? Nope. So why buy Porsche? Because you can. It is not the price we are talking about, it is the value we put on it. A customer who pays me my high price treats me like a Porsche, he clearly shows me what I'm worth to him.

Customer Perspective
One of my regulars told me this: "I have to log into 3dx every single day to get my free xgold gift. And after a week, I got enough xGold to hire you. I have to wait a week so I can afford these 30 minutes. But then, these 30 minutes are an explosion. If I could have this every day, I wouldn't want it anymore."

 

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Again!..the essence should be on the Customer, especially after paying so much in coin!!..He should be teated to highest esteems, not for the escorts Personal ego, or established belief of high impoetance..then the gifts just seem to be a showing of status, and worth of the escort and Not for the Establishment of a higher experiance for the Client..I get an escort for the extras, that most Regular players lack, not just the sex, But alot more, and that should be of great importance..I think iniatially perhaps charge high, but after becoming  a regular and a bond starts to develope, then One should be teated as an honored guest..They use to dp that at the Old garden. Malvasia and the girls for thier special regulers would do a VIP party orgy, strictly to show thier appreciation for the most loyal clients!

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Gifts payment can also blur the reality. I did hear sometimes when I was asked for sex and I answered that I would accept as an escort, sometimes the response was ''I had never paid for sex and I never will!'' So the power of illusion is really big. Maybe because in total - everything is not an illusion, it's a mix of it, it contains many real elements, which brings me to what Robo had write about. Chemistry between an escort-client and this can be a tricky issue. Of course what Robo have described is expected from an escort in one way or another, and it worked well by me as long clients had such a mindset as Robo have. But fact is people come to escorts with different mindsets,  and of course due to fact, that here is the payment symbolic and thus unlike in the real world, the time escort & client spend together from ''hello to goodbye'' is much shorter as in the real world. At least by me was 30 min. max time. As an freelance escort, 85% (if not more) of my clients were from public rooms and not sex rooms. This of course made it possible that I could also sit down with someone and chat with him at least at first - often as long as I would like to, but when I had ''worked'' in an booming escort room, this was hectically...I often simply did not have the time for any bigger conversations...

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about the pics posted:

@ skully: That picture is from my first brothel, the  Pleasure Nest. I recognize myself as nr 3 from right, of course with a beer in hand. The last girl in the row must be Audrey, who worked with me on and off through all the years. I can date it very precicely to end of february 2015.

@ LaylaK: I remember that meeting very well :). Must be december 2017.

thanks to both of you!

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hmmm, robo, let's see if I get you right. What you want is:

  • a girl that adores you
  • that concentrates on you and your pleasure and satisfaction
  • that really really wants you and really enjoys your encounters
  • that has unlimited time for you
  • that doesn't want to be paid appropriate?

Okay, maybe you should rethink the whole escort-concept and give the "girlfriend concept" a try instead….🤣

 

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@Malvasiah. Yes, and that is understandable and right. But the escort concept in the game works with mind cinema only. There is no other reason for an escort to treat somebody as an customer and give highest attention. If this is the case then rules should be kept which means 30mins are 5 gifts. The strange thing is that escort customers are really paying (to 3DXchat), of course just a little, but the escort is not getting anything.

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Hey, lol..I was just adding my take about escorts  ..If someone is going to charge rediculious..she better be perfect, and better  also, make it feel real not fake, because, there is allways someone else who will open up another, and charge alot less for the experiance..lol..I dont need or want a girlfriend in 3dx  ..Been there,  done that, and its more of a headache then what its worth..Plus I like my spontaniety and enjoy differnt partners to just have one.  Hell in 3dx tge skies the Limit...lol..But to each thier own, with escorts and thier prices, I dont just get escorts, the only real thing I really enjoy about them, is they generally Give a good bang for your Buck,..Lmao no pung intended!!!😛😋😋... and try to give back what I give in return, are aually not boring, dont pose flip, and most times are as descriptive as I am...I Do also have some really great friends,that I connect with from time to time, and have some real amazing fun with,....Just the great thing about escorts is when I just want to get some fun, with no strings attached, thier more often then not, alot more enjoyable then Randoms in a sexroom.!..

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5 hours ago, Malvasiah said:

@ Kemistry

 to me it seems  that all robo wants. is to feel he is with a human being, rather than a fuckbot, however good that might be! :)

Thats, right, Im not just a penis, but I have a heart to..Lmao..Now time for  a spanking for bieng such a naughty girl!  Lol😋😛👍😂

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11 hours ago, Kemistry said:

hmmm, robo, let's see if I get you right. What you want is:

  • a girl that adores you
  • that concentrates on you and your pleasure and satisfaction
  • that really really wants you and really enjoys your encounters
  • that has unlimited time for you
  • that doesn't want to be paid appropriate?

Okay, maybe you should rethink the whole escort-concept and give the "girlfriend concept" a try instead….🤣

 

 

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22 hours ago, LadyLayla said:

@LaylaK and @Malvasiah --  I believe that picture was the meeting you held when I joined, which was also the meeting at which Malvasia announced that she was taking a step back and asked Morgaine and Panthea to join the management.

Yep, that's the one :) kiss to my sis !

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@Kemistry
''....Don't act like a whore, don't want to be treated as a whore, but call yourself whore? That's obviously bullshit...''

This is a subject that all escorts have to face and which probably largely decides if she will go on with it or stop. To be called ''a whore.'' I look at this as, hmm, escort is prostitution which brings with it all it's history, myths, clichés, marks....and I doubt any escort really care much about it, how people call her, and if she cares about such stuff,...she should stop with escorts..she certainly does not have the right mindset for it...without the right mindset she can turn sooner or later into an emotional, psychological wreck. I personally take all those ''whore'' remarks as an reflection of who they are and not who I'm. Some people do not look on human beings as human beings but as something completely limited through an eye of her/his employment - job, hobbies, what they did in the pas, and so on....so they label them, add a stamp, and that's all what they see in them and thus becomes their world black & white. Stupid and short sighted people.

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On 12/27/2019 at 1:04 PM, Mondayy said:

@Kemistry
''....Don't act like a whore, don't want to be treated as a whore, but call yourself whore? That's obviously bullshit...''

This is a subject that all escorts have to face and which probably largely decides if she will go on with it or stop. To be called ''a whore.'' I look at this as, hmm, escort is prostitution which brings with it all it's history, myths, clichés, marks....and I doubt any escort really care much about it, how people call her, and if she cares about such stuff,...she should stop with escorts..she certainly does not have the right mindset for it...without the right mindset she can turn sooner or later into an emotional, psychological wreck. I personally take all those ''whore'' remarks as an reflection of who they are and not who I'm. Some people do not look on human beings as human beings but as something completely limited through an eye of her/his employment - job, hobbies, what they did in the pas, and so on....so they label them, add a stamp, and that's all what they see in them and thus becomes their world black & white. Stupid and short sighted people.

As much as I have the freedom of expression, people that play in 3dx all have that same freedom. Being a hooker in here, I don't mind if someone calls me 'whore' although I prefer the word 'hooker', sounds nicer ! But if the guy that addresses me like that isn't my thing, I double or triple my rates, so in fact, he's right... I am a whore lol

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I have to say that I'm a bit surprised, as far as acceptance or the ''image'' of escorts go here in the game, a sex game and in spite of everything, it is not surprising if I come across people who would ''burn me the stake'', some even have written with bold font no escort in profile...while others seems to get totally turned on when an escort is just standing near. Buti'm surprised that the acceptance of prostitution is even in a sex game anything but ''normally acceptable.'' I don't know why some people have such big problems to accept someone have sex for money, or that there gives still quite many who think they can tell someone else if they can have sex for money or not. What is your view on it?

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On 1/6/2020 at 3:42 PM, Mondayy said:

I have to say that I'm a bit surprised, as far as acceptance or the ''image'' of escorts go here in the game...

Good point, Monday.
It might relate to the fact that it is just a weird mix of people in here - just like everywhere else. And a lot of people are judging everybody else all the time. 
Pay no attention to those hypocrites that mistake 3DX for Parship or whatever. I am not sure if these folks are enjoying their time, actually I do have some doubts ... 😉

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