Strange business strategy

[OwyMary]

Greetings to everyone who reads this post.

 

I want to publicly express my opinion, not as OwyMary, but as a customer -a second class customer I should remark-. I say this because this company has demonstrated -and continues to demonstrate- that female clients are pure accessory for male customers. Male clients have twice or more heterosexual poses, they -males- are allowed to do threesomes too. They can also give a kiss on the cheek, female clients can not kiss each other well, because it's evil, it's immoral. I criticized this attitude of the management of the company a year ago, then I kept quiet and watched, but the discrimination and sexism got worse.

 

You people, we -all customers- are paying the same amount, we -all customers- should receive the same. I'm not saying this for activism, or feminism, I don't want a battle of the sexes. I Just give you only a very clear business advice.

 

 

 

 

 

Nobody can tell me that this is not going here. elsewhere I have no permission to put

[Shanti]

Well tbh, you are an accessory only if you decide to be one just like in real life, because I certainly am not one, nor feel like one.

 

While I agree that we should all receive the same ... you are wrong on the facts you use :

 

- Kiss cheek is only possible on M/F ... Males cannot kiss cheek each other

- Threesomes are available for MMF or FFM ... There is no MMM just as much as there isn't any FFF

 

Should I even start on how much males lack on clothes compared to females, basically they have nothing compared to us.

 

 

That being said, I completely agree that we should all receive the same as far as contents are concerned, might that be between genders and/or sexual orientations, and that concerns everything : animations and clothing !

[Riela]

Well tbh, you are an accessory only if you decide to be one just like in real life, because I certainly am not one, nor feel like one.

 

While I agree that we should all receive the same ... you are wrong on the facts you use :

 

- Kiss cheek is only possible on M/F ... Males cannot kiss cheek each other

- Threesomes are available for MMF or FFM ... there is no MMM just as much as there isn't any FFF

 

Should I even start on how much males lack on clothes compared to females, basically they have nothing compared to us.

 

 

That being said, I completely agree that we should all receive the same as far as contents are concerned, might that be between genders and/or sexual orientations, and that concerns everything : animations and clothing !

truth to be told you didn't fucked here in last 2 years

 

As for the topic - devs promised in the last big topic about this that all poses will be ported to FF and they ported 1 old one since then. Which is year now...

Unfortunately they deleted the topic so no one see so much negative feedback and forgot about their promise clearly as it was exactly year ago.

The sad thing is they continue to still add single M/F poses (last cuddle as well threesomes) so the gap keep just widening. ... job well done...

 

Don't hold your breath ... Anyone who been here 2 to 3 years will tell you same. Forget it and hope some other game comes along.

[Pixiier]

Hii  In my opinion all members should be threated equal, so I 100% support more poses, especially lgbt poses, with variations of threesome. Developers should gain their experiences at other adultchat site(s).   Bi and proud.

[FenrisWolf]

Should I even start on how much males lack on clothes compared to females, basically they have nothing compared to us.

 

Very good point Shanti.  Let us not forget the variety of other things females have that males don't,

 

Males:

-Can't lie down on beds alone.

-Can't dance on poles.

-Don't even get one decent long hairstyle.  Not one.

-Have no slow seductive solo dances.

-Have one masturbation pose.  Period.  And it can only be used on the floor or the bed.

-There are more FMF threesome poses, meaning the MFM gets neglected.  Not all males are insecure in their sexuality and afraid of MFM.

 

Anyway, I just thought I'd add to your observation there and demonstrate just how little love the men get in this game compared to females.

[Riela]

Very good point Shanti.  Let us not forget the variety of other things females have that males don't,

 

Males:

-Can't lie down on beds alone.

-Can't dance on poles.

-Don't even get one decent long hairstyle.  Not one.

-Have no slow seductive solo dances.

-Have one masturbation pose.  Period.  And it can only be used on the floor or the bed.

-There are more FMF threesome poses, meaning the MFM gets neglected.  Not all males are insecure in their sexuality and afraid of MFM.

 

Anyway, I just thought I'd add to your observation there and demonstrate just how little love the men get in this game compared to females.

• - Ok, this I give you fair point.
• - Perhaps, I doubt you want 4 loop animation on pole and its just for the sake of argument. The 4 dances we have are all 3 year old and really simple loops.
• - Female hairstyles aren't best either many people complain how shadow ruin faces and how most of them look awful. The longest style have weird slick in middle. One looks like someone puked on it, other one is barbie doll, third one is pasted from some random 3d store, then there's bald... There's barely normal simple hairstyle.
• - All dances lately looks like monkey breeding rain rituals where are the seductive dances you speak about? the 5th? the 2 second loop of wiggling ass? You have like same number of dances I think ?
• - Fisting of ass is so important FF single pose you can have it. Take it. Female have 2 you wrote it like we had 10 solo poses. We don't there is masturbation and fisting of ass.
• - Good we dont have single FFF or shemale threesome you have total of what now? 10 in total? How about single FM poses + cuddle and kiss on cheek that FF lacks?  You end up with 20 more poses. There's also no cum on Shemales / Females.

 

 Have you seen FM poses or MFM or most FMF poses?

I am not saying girls don't enjoy them but they are specifically taken from hardcore male fantasies + the amount of anal poses here are likely catering to some head developer fantasies as well.

I do agree that male needs more clothing options and better faces. But your points are ... lmao and silly. I am sorry ...

 

Also the female customization is there for males like it is for females. Don't forget this little important fact even when it sounds silly. Or perhaps you would prefer to fuck same doll with same (awful) look every single time? Because that's what females put up here.

It's actually females that should complain about lack of male customization cus everyone they fuck look same and awful.

Most male faces are awful and its off putting. You wouldn't fuck girl that look like meth whore...

 

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[OwyMary]

To Riela

 

Tell you, you go out on a limb, and deflects it. If you are not an accessory, but a person like any other, or any man, claim equality. if you do not give us the same benefits, they charge us half

 

[Maxxim]

I seem to be getting a vibe in this thread that MF poses somehow cater to men and men only. Last I checked females and males are equally represented in MF poses.

 

Please do not throw "sexism and discrimination" into the mix, because this is not what this is.

 

Having more MF poses than anything is not a bad business practice, in fact, it's the opposite. A quick google search reveals that about 90% of human population identify as straight. Catering to hetero audience is more likely to bring in revenue, no? Link

 

With that said, I do agree that all poses should be ported and be useable by any gender combination. Seeing how Oblivion and Skyrim modders have been doing that for many years, it boggles my mind how long it's taking to do that here.

[Riela]

I seem to be getting a vibe in this thread that MF poses somehow cater to men and men only. Last I checked females and males are equally represented in MF poses.

 

Please do not throw "sexism and discrimination" into the mix, because this is not what this is.

 

Having more MF poses than anything is not a bad business practice, in fact, it's the opposite. A quick google search reveals that about 90% of human population identify as straight. Catering to hetero audience is more likely to bring in revenue, no? Link

 

With that said, I do agree that all poses should be ported and be useable by any gender combinati

on. Seeing how Oblivion and Skyrim modders have been doing that for many years, it boggles my mind how long it's taking to do that here.

Can your quick google search show that's the case for this game max?

Because I see as many FF couples as I see MF even if they aren't operated by females.

You know that's true and no its not anecdotal I been here 2 years now and you as well.

 

In fact I think FF leads here compared to MF if we count shemales into mix.

 

 

And yes we can talk about sexism or catering to males but not in the way Mary pointed but in the the amount of anal poses would make lots of rl girls throw up and how most poses are kinda male fantasies blablabla ... pointless discussion anyway.

Idk which one would want to take that huge cock each day to ass multiple times. Not saying Females don't like anal but here ... it's anal fest...it's been that way for 2 years this year we got few sensual poses I give you that .. but it's still long long way.

[Maxxim]

 

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I said I agreed about the poses did I not?

 

I simply pointed out that as far as business goes, having a greater amount of hetero content can be advantageous. Whatever the case might be in the game has no relevance on the point I was addressing there.

 

Also, why you're hung up on anal poses? I'm not a fan either, but, who cares? 

 

I have no argument for more poses be it FF MM or what have you. The reason I replied in this thread because words like "sexism" and "discrimination" are, in my opinion, misused.

[OwyMary]

 

 

Mister, I only claim equality. Have I told you that men should not put them things ?. does not intend to turn this into a fight between the sexes. That's not the point

 

[Riela]

I said I agreed about the poses did I not?

 

I simply pointed out that as far as business goes, having a greater amount of hetero content can be advantageous. Whatever the case might be in the game has no relevance on the point I was addressing there.

 

Also, why you're hung up on anal poses? I'm not a fan either, but, who cares? 

 

I have no argument for more poses be it FF MM or what have you. The reason I replied in this thread because words like "sexism" and "discrimination" are, in my opinion, misused.

You didnt read my post at all.

You said catering to hetero brings more money not that IT can bring more, here in this place it doest look like that's the case anyway. As the population with FF /MF regardless of gender seems to be pretty much same maybe even leaning on FF.

Hung on anal poses I made argument to you as you said everyone is equal represent in MF so there isn't sexism or discrimination, which I don't agree I think the poses cater more to male than female even if female is part of the pose. Because of the lack of foreplay, porn poses, brutal anal poses etc blabla. I explained that in previous post.

[FenrisWolf]

 

• - Ok, this I give you fair point.
• - Perhaps, I doubt you want 4 loop animation on pole and its just for the sake of argument. The 4 dances we have are all 3 year old and really simple loops.
• - Female hairstyles aren't best either many people complain how shadow ruin faces and how most of them look awful. The longest style have weird slick in middle. One looks like someone puked on it, other one is barbie doll, third one is pasted from some random 3d store, then there's bald... There's barely normal simple hairstyle.
• - All dances lately looks like monkey breeding rain rituals where are the seductive dances you speak about? the 5th? the 2 second loop of wiggling ass? You have like same number of dances I think ?
• - Fisting of ass is so important FF single pose you can have it. Take it. Female have 2 you wrote it like we had 10 solo poses. We don't there is masturbation and fisting of ass.
• - Good we dont have single FFF or shemale threesome you have total of what now? 10 in total? How about single FM poses + cuddle and kiss on cheek that FF lacks?  You end up with 20 more poses. There's also no cum on Shemales / Females.

 

 Have you seen FM poses or MFM or most FMF poses?

I am not saying girls don't enjoy them but they are specifically taken from hardcore male fantasies + the amount of anal poses here are likely catering to some head developer fantasies as well.

I do agree that male needs more clothing options and better faces. But your points are ... lmao and silly. I am sorry ...

 

Also the female customization is there for males like it is for females. Don't forget this little important fact even when it sounds silly. Or perhaps you would prefer to fuck same doll with same (awful) look every single time? Because that's what females put up here.

It's actually females that should complain about lack of male customization cus everyone they fuck look same and awful.

Most male faces are awful and its off putting. You wouldn't fuck girl that look like meth whore...

 

edit: formatting and stuff

 

 

Okay, I never called anyone else's points silly here, and think that everyone has made some very valid points.  So why do you feel the need to call my observations silly?  There are plenty of people who would like to have some of these features.  And yes, you're right, the female customization is just as much to please the males as it is the females.  So why aren't we given more to work with so we can make avatars that are more pleasing to females?

 

I also agree with you about the anal.  There's just a ridiculous amount of focus on it, and I'd love to see more vaginal sex poses for MF.  And also, I'd love more cuddle poses all around.  The addition of threesome cuddle poses would be at the top of that list.

 

In the end, my point is, maybe overall the game is made to cater more to male tastes, but it would be nice if they'd open up more options for males so that we can better cater to female tastes.  Our avatars are just so lacking, and I know it has to be a turn off for the women.  We get variety to choose from with female avatars, but women are stuck with a thousand clones with the most minor of differences who are all stuck wearing the same clothes.  I, for one, would love to be able to offer them something more unique to look upon and get off to.  To be able to offer a bit more in the way of visual seduction with some small tweaks to solo poses.

 

Let's face it.  There are a lot of elements of the game that are really lacking for both sexes, and that could be so easily tweaked and updated for a better experience.  There's plenty of revenue for it.  And plenty of people are volunteering to create said content.  So why don't they seem to be making any effort to integrate it?

[Maxxim]

You didnt read my post at all.

You said catering to hetero brings more money not that IT can bring more, here in this place it doest look like that's the case anyway. As the population with FF /MF regardless of gender seems to be pretty much same maybe even leaning on FF.

Hung on anal poses I made argument to you as you said everyone is equal represent in MF so there isn't sexism or discrimination, which I don't agree I think the poses cater more to male than female even if female is part of the pose. Because of the lack of foreplay, porn poses, brutal anal poses etc blabla. I explained that in previous post.

 

As I said I am not a huge fan of the anal poses, some guys are some aren't. Some girls are and some aren't. How does that make the MF poses skewed towards being more pleasurable to males? Please explain. 

 

I said it CAN bring more money. Advertising the hetero aspects CAN bring more customers. I joined the game cause I saw an ad where a guy was fucking a girl. If it was anything else I would not have clicked on the link (not that this matters). That's all I was saying, I did not say that 90% of the population in the game is hetero. Maybe it's you that didn't read my post.

[Riela]

As I said I am not a huge fan of the anal poses, some guys are some aren't. Some girls are and some aren't. How does that make the MF poses skewed towards being more pleasurable to males? Please explain. 

 

I said it CAN bring more money. Advertising the hetero aspects CAN bring more customers. I joined the game cause I saw an ad where a guy was fucking a girl. If it was anything else I would not have clicked on the link (not that this matters). That's all I was saying, I did not say that 90% of the population in the game is hetero. Maybe it's you that didn't read my post.

Since you love editing your posts and you edited the can and other aspects of your posts I am done with you and yes I told you what i think about you in PM cus you seems to love picking the fight. theres no point of replying if you keep editing your posts.

[SamanthaSweetheart]

Your selfishness is what brings you dissatisfaction in this game. Instead of complaining about what you don't have, use what you do have to bring others some form of happiness in this game.

[Riela]

Your selfishness is what brings you dissatisfaction in this game. Instead of complaining about what you don't have, use what you do have to bring others some form of happiness in this game.

I am sorry that I dare to be selfish with 25 euro / month hoping that game get to level of updates that should be appropriate by size of community and premium price we pay. 

Argument we pay for access to the 5 locations that could likely most people run from their basement is pretty silly.

[Guest RobT]

this topic is laughable. to even suggest that the game favors men is beyond stupid. If you was to say it favors MF sex then i may be apt to agree but it certainly doesnt cater to men. The opposite really.

[Guest RobT]

Also. The segment  that is getting screwed is the non futa lesbians. How many poses do they have, not many i dont believe. if anyones getting the shaft so to speak, its them

[Naptime]

I said something of sort to this awhile back myself. My personal opinion is the entire platform of this game all the way down to the maps should be dumped into the recycle bin. Devs should build maps hundreds of them followed up with a team that does nothing but build poses/animations. Leave fashion/music/character creation etc. to the subscribing player base. The new era of the game world is mod friendly... Its the difference between 5000 member sub base and 1 million user sub base. All devs really need to do is give power to the player & provide templates & some sort of dump tank that subs can throw his/her work in. (where its under goes approval or against terms of service) If you want a bigger sand box then give the digital freedom. Sites all over the game industry list 3DX as #1 adult game. It will lose its top spot as soon as something is created in the same genre that uses second generation carbon fiber models. This is not a bash on the models here. (exceptional considering there hollowness)

[Leeloo]

 

I say this because this company has demonstrated -and continues to demonstrate- that female clients are pure accessory for male customers. Male clients have twice or more heterosexual poses, they -males- are allowed to do threesomes too.

 

You can compare men vs women only for clothes ( men lose ) , for the poses you must compare hétéros versus LGT+B

 

 

 

 

 

Males:

1- Can't lie down on beds alone.

2- Can't dance on poles.

3- Don't even get one decent long hairstyle.  Not one.

4- Have no slow seductive solo dances.

5- Have one masturbation pose.  Period.  And it can only be used on the floor or the bed.

6- There are more FMF threesome poses, meaning the MFM gets neglected.  Not all males are insecure in their sexuality and afraid of MFM.

 

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1- This is bad , devs need to change that.

2- With only 4 moves , you lose nothing

3- bad for you

4- It should looks strange to see a man practice the dance n°4 lol

5- I'll happyly exchange the "hand in the anus" masturbation pose for the kiss cheek action for lesbians and gays

6- don't complain , there is ZERO FFF and ZERO MMM

[arisak]

Ya i don't think you can single out one sex or sexual orientation. Across the board there is really poor equality through out the game. And that is problem right there. We should all have the same dances, have the same quantity and variety of clothes, sex poses, animations, etc... There's no reason why everyone's treated differently. It shouldn't matter how something looks or is perceived by others. We all should have a choice to use everything no matter our sex or sexual orientation.

[Euk]

Everything in this game caters to heterosexual male fantasy and always has, there are tons of threads from LGBT pleading for pretty much anything. 

[Leeloo]

Ya i don't think you can single out one sex or sexual orientation. Across the board there is really poor equality through out the game. And that is problem right there. We should all have the same dances, have the same quantity and variety of clothes, sex poses, animations, etc... There's no reason why everyone's treated differently. It shouldn't matter how something looks or is perceived by others. We all should have a choice to use everything no matter our sex or sexual orientation.

No need to have all the same poses , i mean , personally i dont like suck a strapon