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    Tsela reacted to Twiggy in Men's Clothing   
    Why would I jump on it, it is hardly even worth mentioning, well to most people, as to a lot of the things you are trying to make something out of. You believe what you want to believe, others will remember where I have mentioned the EULA in other threads in these forums before, up to years ago, lol 
    As for the free dances, I had said I had seen free dances in the assets store and you said you would love to see any free dances as if they do not exist. I had even said I did not know if they were the ones that had been talked about or not but had seen free dances in there. And they are free, no matter how many licenses would be required. Sellers often offer free stuff to try to promote their new stuff. With those dances they are free so people can see that they do work and then possibly buy the ones that aren't free. That has been going on for years. the only limitations that are on those dances is how many FREE licenses you will need. There has actually been better dances offered for free a short time, then the price put back on them, again another promotion to try get people to buy the whole package of multiple versions. 
    You were claiming to know all about the TOS and telling people to go look, when you didn't know until you actually went in and looked. I already knew what was in there from having looked many times over years.
    My company, my own company, uses Unity as a viewer for our clients. We supply 78 clients with a platform, it is not a game, it is a 3D viewer that allows our clients to present the product we supply to their clients for clarification before the order is placed. I cannot tell you more than that as it is rather unique and if people found out what it is it means people in 3DXChat will be able to find me. We have only purchased 12 assets, some scripts and items that are just for aesthetics. You can choose to believe me or not, doesn't bother me, but you asked so I answered the best I could.
    Now I have had enough of your BS, you just like to argue and try to present yourself as someone knowledgeable when you obviously knew very little. 
     
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    Tsela got a reaction from ☙𝔼𝕩❧ in Men's Clothing   
    well to make it simple, first he was claiming that there are no free assets in the unity store, then when you proved him wrong, he basically tried to dodge the discussion talking about the TOS. While everything we download from the unity store is subjected to their term of use, it wasn't what you talked about before, wasn't it? He's just prolonging this argument simply because he hates being proven wrong, and struggles to maintain an argument without having anything new to say.
    Don't let that get to you. You are right there.
    Extension assets are subjected to terms of use, license free items can be used, modified, shared, sold as part of your project as your own without the need of any extra licensing, or anything at all. The items which are subjected to additional licensing are highlighted as licensing type you can acquire for single entity or multi entity. In case of single entity, you are the only entity holding the license and having the legal right to work with it.
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    Tsela reacted to THX in Men's Clothing   
    Ok, let's start with the first glaring error. Your link means nothing anyone using the Store wisely doesn't know. No one has claimed you can't use assets there commercially.  It is the liscense  it falls under that determines those you can use commercially and how. I've said this over and over.
    Had you understood what you were looking at, you would see rhat particular asset falls under the catagory of 'extension.' Had you then read the EULA about the extension liscense you would have found it is a "per seat" liscence.  And it is terrible quality asset to boot.
    Secondly, you are partly right in regard to SL. Perhaps a real scenario will explain.
    Years ago, when Curio was supposedly close to allowing a pipeline for scripts and assets for subscribers to upload and add to builds, a group of us debated over if we  could use a standard Unity store asset in our personal builds that wouldn't be resold. To make a long story short, Unity Legal suggested we contact the author which we did. Originally,we were told yes, as it was a standard liscense. However, in later email exchanges, they changed their minds about this. So again, it's always best to contact the author.
    They brought up SL as a reason, which had no similarity to Curio in terms platform usage. They cited something a out the SL agreement had some legal claim over their IP if they allowed it. I still have no idea what they meant or do to this day. I chalked it up to a language barrier issue, and didn't care.
    So in conclusion,  it isn't a free no holds barred shopping spree on the Unity Store as your presenting, and reading and understanding the TOS before posting that link would have been wise. It is also wise to read the limitations on their website that may be specific. I could make an asset for commercial use, but have an exclusion "Twiggy can't use it" in addition to the Unity Store TOS in my terms of usage. 
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    Tsela reacted to Twiggy in Men's Clothing   
    I am getting so sick of this, try actually reading the TOS before you go quoting what you believe to be what is in it and not just noticing the extension asset under license type on the item I linked to and what it says when you click on it. Per user does not mean what you seem to think, it does not mean like per player in your game. It is in reference to the amount of people in the company that will be working on the game using that asset. If there are 4 people who will be working on the game then all 4 need a license. If you have contractors working on the game for your company then they will also need licenses. An extension asset does not stop you from using that asset in your game.  If you had read the TOS you will have seen that and not made that comment. 
    Plus the comments you have previously made were to suggest that we cannot use items purchased from the Unity store without getting direct permission from the owners, that was what you said over and over. My argument has from my very 1st post was to say it is covered by the license agreements supplied by the Unity Assets store and you have tried to argue against that with comments like these below.
    Quote " I'd never assume something on there can be used commercially and rebroadcast to thousands without consent."
    Quote "You cannot use them in 3DX or any platform unless you get specific  permission from the asset holder. It's all spelled out in the TOS. Without explicit permission from the author, 3DX would become a legal target."
    Quote "I would NEVER assume a thing without direct permission from the asset maker."
    And now you have been made to actually look at how it all works in the Unity Assets store you are trying to say you have always said the opposite. lol well I guess in a way that is admitting you were wrong.
     
     
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    Tsela got a reaction from cichy96 in male and female clothes with the gay flag   
    And here I thought the patches are gay enough already
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    Tsela reacted to Twiggy in Men's Clothing   
    Well for someone who keeps saying you would never assume a thing you do seem to assume a lot. 
    Did you look at the page I linked to from Unity itself, if you did you don't seem to understand what it means so I will explain it to you. If you place an item for sale on the Unity Assets store you are agreeing to terms on licensing that they set in their TOS. You are correct in what you say there but you don't seem to understand what that means or what is in the TOS. If you advertise something for sale and leave it as the standard non restricted licensing then you agree to place it for sale in the assets store to the terms set by Unity for the non restricted sales, most items for sale in there are done that way. So what that means is that any item sold by anyone that is non restricted is giving the buyer direct consent through the terms set by Unity. That consent allows them to use the items as per described in that page I linked to, which includes commercial use. Any non restricted item sold can as I have said, be used in any game you own even if it is not done using Unity.
    For games like SL it does get a little different as most of what is supplied in SL is supplied by players. They do not own the game and they cannot supply items sold from the Unity store as it is classed as reselling even if they offer them for free. If SL itself was to buy an item and offer it in the game then it is complying by the non restricted terms as set by Unity.
    And a very quick search revealed...
    https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/animations/dance-animations-free-161313
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    Tsela reacted to THX in Men's Clothing   
    Aall assets in the Unity store fall under the Uniry store TOS by default unless otherwise designated. And the better ones are subject to seat liscences.  I am eager to see these unrestricted free dance moves on the Unity Store. 
    Additionally, many asset makers who allow free use wont allow certain platforms to use them (especially SL) something to do with IP causing asset maker to give up rights. I still don't understand that. There is usually a link that leads to the asset makers website that explains terms. You simply cannot assume anything without researching it. Email to asset creator is your safest to cover your ass.
    I would NEVER assume a thing without direct permission from the asset maker. As Ashbash has said, many require a one time usage fee and Gizmo isn't that dumb not to assume anything.
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    Tsela got a reaction from Lunarelf in male and female clothes with the gay flag   
    And here I thought the patches are gay enough already
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    Tsela reacted to Twiggy in Men's Clothing   
    Get involved in their forum to, I found there was a lot of people that were very helpful in there.
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    Tsela got a reaction from Twiggy in Men's Clothing   
    Nevermind him. He's just hysterical, let him go back to his cartoons. He is a nobody, just a player like the rest of us, so it's pointless to argue with him.
    And you are right
    In any case. I do like unity store and I started learning to work with Unity. They are among the most helpful bunch.
    They send me free tutorials and links to assets I can use through email, C# programming language is much more convenient to work with, and it really is a very helpful and quite powerful engine, no wonder so many developers love Unity. While Unreal has more bells and whistles, Unity is simply far easier to work with. Even for those developers who don't have a high budget or time. 
    Free assets are also free to use, modify, and being sold as part of your project.
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    Tsela reacted to THX in Men's Clothing   
    Lol, you always try to bring  in others to fight your battles and ignore when they try to educate you. It should be clear by this point to anyone you don't have a clue and your claims can be even harmful to someone foolish enough to take you seriously.
    Most people don't  understand why things are as they are and you can't just go to a place like the Unity Store and the Devs pick what they want. The Devs don't need a Morty insulting them I truely am suprised they haven't banned you yet. Especially for insulting Lisa over and over as she is the art side.
    Constructive criticism is one thing and insulting those who provide the service is another. Constructive is "there is a large male presence being underserved by the lack of options for men"  along with ideas how to solve that problem. Only an asshat who has no idea what they do day to day and claiming to know better would insult them and call them 'lazy" or any of the other insults you've hurled at them.
    I doubt you have a job, whereas they have to be available 24/7, address bans and reports, settle disputes, promote, develop, deal with legal issues that arise, pirates stealing from them and a host of other things not even mentioned. If it is so easy,  build your own platform by going to the Uniry Store and doing as you claim to know. 
    As most of us are fully aware Gizmo has stated a clothing customization feature is coming so stop your whining.
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    Tsela reacted to Twiggy in Men's Clothing   
    I strongly suggest you start actually doing some searches, and simple searches at that before you go posting things that you must only work out in your own head what in your view is right or wrong.
    Just to give you a hand and make it a little easier for you...
    https://support.unity.com/hc/en-us/articles/205623589-Can-I-use-assets-from-the-Asset-Store-in-my-commercial-game-
    The Unity assets store hasn't changed at all in respect to how it handles its licensing for items sold. Everything I said in my previous post that you quoted as being wrong is 100% correct.
    Start actually finding out if what you believe is right before you go telling people they are wrong and posting misleading information in these forums.
    You remind me a lot of a certain other person that use to do the same thing in these forums, she always made herself look foolish to.
     
    Edited to add...
    I actually remember on more than one occasion seeing dance animations offered for free under a non restricted agreement. I also remember the same dance animations were free on other websites. I wouldn't know if they are the ones that Tsela is talking about but can say they have had free ones on the Unity assets store.
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    Tsela reacted to Pandorra in Men's Clothing   
    OK, back to topic then.
    Some socks for guys?
    Yes.
    I mean you get blisters barefoot in shoes on the long run.
    Have a good one!
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    Tsela got a reaction from Pandorra in Men's Clothing   
    Fair enough. I'm sorry for derailing from the subject. I'm done triggering him
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    Tsela reacted to Pandorra in Men's Clothing   
    You both, get a room *lol*
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    Tsela reacted to THX in Men's Clothing   
    So basically you made an unsubstantiated claim that gives the impression that one can just go to the Unity Store and it is a comercial shopping spree - which is NOT the case as spelled out in the Unity Store TOS.
    Secondly, we have proven your Copyright claim false also. I believe Ex posted a link a out this and it is an international treaty.  If you need to be schooled, I'm sure I can post the information again and make you look even more foolish.
    As far as Men's clothing and assets in general, I have also explained in another thread there are the problems of the assets required Unity version.
    Then, there are issues with men's clothing comparability with the Avitar 3DX uses. 
    It isn't just grabbing something and it will work. 
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    Tsela reacted to THX in Men's Clothing   
    This is why anyone reading your comments shouldn't take a thing you say seriously. 
    All someone needs to do is go back through your posts and find it.
    Secondly,  how many people have to explain to you when an artist creates something it is automatically copyrighted. Ex tried, I did and and maybe others have. It just doesn't sink in.
    Third, you still haven't provided the links to these free dances and such on the Unity Store. Why would anyone take you seriously?
    Lastly, my builds and concepts are the longest running in 3DX and how are yours doing. Lol
     
    Edit: it's people like you who create false expectations and cause conflict here. I'm suprised the Devs haven't banned you for griefing them yet.
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    Tsela got a reaction from ☙𝔼𝕩❧ in Men's Clothing   
    True. THX complained about boob jiggles even if he doesn't wear them... (or does he). Ex! You Nazi! How dare you blocking that passionate boob fighter!
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    Tsela reacted to Diana Prince in Men's Clothing   
    Do you mean the mixamo.com site? It's an Adobe branch. You can find most new dances and poses there. Here is a screenshot I posted a while ago of the idle 6 (phone) pose.

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    Tsela got a reaction from Twiggy in Men's Clothing   
    well sync dancing might be a reason for similar dance moves, but I don't think the devs were thinking about that, It was more like something the community came up with. If it would be an officially supported feature... we wouldn't need to do these sex poses to make it work to time it together, for that it would be nice to have a dance team sort of feature, where you can add people like in a group chat and sync them automatically with a the push of a button. People would create all sort of dance choreographies
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    Tsela reacted to Twiggy in Men's Clothing   
    In 2015 I think it was, they added 4 new dance poses. Before that we didn't have many at all and those poses being added brought a lot of people back to the game. There was also another reason it made such a difference and from memory it had to do with guys being able to sinc dance with someone. I can't remember exactly what it was but it did make a lot of men happy as they could do something they couldn't before. I also remember a lot more guys seem to be in the game. Maybe it has something to do with why they do what they do now, just saying. I do agree though that guys need better guy dances.
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    Tsela reacted to ☙𝔼𝕩❧ in Men's Clothing   
    You wanted a balance, they made this balance. All dances for Everyone lol I bet that if they separate some of them, we could see people who complain about it as well. 
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    Tsela reacted to Twiggy in Men's Clothing   
    Unless things have changed in the Unity assets store you can use all none restricted assets you buy from there anywhere you want. You can't sell them but can use them in games or advertising and such even if the platform is not Unity. With none restricted items the license is covered by the terms the seller and buyer signs up for when they sell or buy in the assets store. No extra fee for licensing is required. The seller can when advertising any product choose to set a separate price for licensing, that item is then classed as restricted and will show a separate price for the licensing. There has also been and likely still free items available in the assets store, some are restricted where they show a price for licensing but others are non restricted and can be used without any fees. Most items sold in the store are non restricted where the price you pay covers all. 
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    Tsela reacted to Cruna in Men's Clothing   
    both THX and Tsela are idiots if they keep fighting. Neither is better. Nobody cares about either of them. Yes THX retarded saying, that he knows better what women want. It's not his business. I support men, and women suggesting things they want to have but it's not anybody's business talking down another what they want and need. So he should shut up.
    If they keep being toxic, report them and have them banned. Nobody needs any THX childish rant or Tsela mockings
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    Tsela got a reaction from Tankard in Men's Clothing   
    Go back to your mediocre builds and jiggly boob physics, cartoon boy
    And start a new thread complaining about me also
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