Xizi

What do you mean?

Please let us change facial structure, hair, nose and mouth separately. It's very important to be able to create your own avi, not just another clone. It's just silly – we can customize a relatively small details like eyelashes or rouge, but can't change our eyes or nose shape separately.

Well, that's exactly what you do – whimpering nonstop like a pathetic crybaby

Yeah I got you

If you don't like something it does not makes it "shit". Game was lacking enough BDSM stuff and now there is more and more of it with new updates and it's cool. And a lot of players actually asked for it, I mean not exactly about sitting on the back but about BDSM stuff in general. There are different people playing 3dxchat and not all of them are all vanilla and you basically calling other's tastes and preferences in sex "shitty" just because it's not your thing. Slapping pose quite popular btw, despite the amount of crybabies' whimpering I saw on this forum when the pose were released. So just deal with it lol.

So what? That means that it's no difference for them to flirt and fuck in the barn, in some tasteless concrete box or in beautifully made location? I can't see where is logic in this. And? How does this relate to having a sense of taste?

It's a lot more pleasant to meet people, flirt and have sex in a well made room than in some concrete box with nothing but beds, couches and strip poles.

Up.

Please increase the symbols' limit in the profile or make it possible that tags like <color>, <size>, <b>, <i> are not taken into the account of this limit, so we could make long AND beautiful profiles, not forced to choose – either we want to give enough info in our bio or we want to make it more pretty. I want both, I don't want to choose! And I am sure that it's not only me who wants it. And please let us use clickable links in profiles, so the person who click on the link would open it in their browser (or at least copy the text of the link by clicking on it, like a message in chat), and we can share our f-lists or our messengers' accounts or w/e we wish to share in our profile. And let us make links to other players profiles, like on forum for example, I mean like this @Gizmo , so we can give links to our friends/lovers profiles (maybe taking their permission before, I hope it's possible to code so).

That's some brand new definition of internet troll? Btw, people who really shine do not need to prove it on some sex-game forum, just saying

It have nothing to do with fear. There's just no reason to invest my time in writing post when I know that with high probability it will be deleted before most people will ever read it. And I am not afraid if forum will become a place where everyone can delete other's posts. It will be not so pleasant place for me and I don't want it, yes. I will spend less time here, maybe even leave it. But I can't understand what it have to do with being afraid. I mean, it's 2k19, there is so much activities to waste your time with pleasure that losing some forum can be a drama only if you also losing people leaving forum. But it's not my case, I don't have friends here. In game – yes, but not on forum.

It's not offtopic. Only because you don't like it – it does not become a garbage. I did say. And I changed my opinion. You keep pushing your agenda like some absolute truth and I will oppose it as much as I can. At least till I have time and not too tired to do so.

So when you play a game you are shifting to some alternate dimension I suppose? Or losing your personality? How it can be not a part of life if you do it during your life?

I am not the one who need to make an argument here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy) The burden of proof lies on you, not on me. It's you should proof that giving everyone a moderation right will be a progress for the forum. So when you make a poor analogy – all is fine with your logic, but when I do the same to show you how it does not work "Where is a logic"? Okay lol. No, it's not the only reason. Unlimited self-moderation and deleting any unwanted content ruins the pluralism of opinions therefore devaluating the discussion and ruining the very desire to discuss. You did and I even showed you how. But you can make any rules you want so practically you can delete any of my content in your topic. You can make a rule "Xizl are not allowed to post here" or "No one allowed to argue my position". Well, if you would really can make a rules ofc Yeah, offer one way to make out forum "better" while in the same time saying that if we will not follow this way we will have to deal with all the crap you mentioned before, like nasty pics, trolls, etc. False dilemma. No, I did not. I only admited that Community section have more posts. It does not mean that it's more or even same important that 3DXCHAT section. You said particular thing "Because forum moderation is a feature that can give to everyone a comfort". It's a lie. Even if I would be the only one (tho ofc I am not) to who it would not give a comfort – your statement is false. I did not say that it will destroy my opinion. Can say the very same thing to you. You make zero sense lol.

Games and game forums are the part of life. It's an entertainment and also a way of socializing, sometime for some people who can't get it other way.

I don't actually think that closure the forum games was a good thing to do. Even if I did not participate in them, I don't understand how this games can be a problem. And when I talk about pouting – I were basing my opinion mostly if not solely on the people's react to game updates or lack of it. Pouting about not adding what they personally asked like devs have infinity recourses to satisfy every request, pouting that team of a couple devs can't fix all bugs, pouting about not all dll's features implemented in game in one update, pouting about fucking everything. The reality is – we have a deal with a very small team of developers. It's not Blizzard or Riot Games. And I am sorry that you can't play in your forum games anymore if it was so much fun and good emotions.

Nah, you would not see many of these, because I simply would stop posting in threads where I am afraid that my posts will be deleted.

Nah, I would stop to write in the threads of some persons and also would make a screenshots of every abuse of self-moderation I can notice and send it to devs lol. Or maybe I would limit myself to talking in only devs created and my own threads. Or maybe I would almost stop to use this forum. Something of these. I dunno since when you "know" that I don't wish that. I am not against boot in general, I just think that it should be limited to not be discriminatory. Btw, I am not even completely against self-moderation on forum, if it's limited I may actually agree that it can work for me: Pout? Well, I prolly would try to write a personal message to Gizmo or SexGameDevil whole explaining why it's a bad decision. Pouting would not help anyway. I have nothing against fast swim. Nah, I already feel like I am spending TOO MUCH time here. a lot and lot more than I should. The only reason why I do it now is because I understand that if Gizmo will decide to follow @ExHaran or your propositions – it will be too late to argue, it will be time to either accept or pout. And I don't want any of these two. I wrote I guess already a few pages of text in total, explaining my position in details. You can "suspect" anything you wish.

Nah, it's not self-obvious. You would not see around a half people voting against it in the poll you create if it would undoubtfully improve the forum. Everyone has mistakes. Everyone can use morphine to get high or to fight a terrible pain. It's not a reason to limit its use. Let's sell it to everyone in every pharmacy. Yeah, let's not. I am not actually calling for it, just showing that making analogy is not always a good way to argue. My link just showing what you trying to create and use. A false dilemma. You said it as an argument about why we need the ability to moderate our topics like if we will not be able to moderate our topics – we will have to deal with all this shit and will not be able to do anything against it. Therefore you creating a false dilemma, because there is more ways then two (self-moderation or rivers of shit that we can't oppose). I listed some in one of my previous posts: So does it mean that topic-starter can't delete my content just because they don't like it? Or because my post challenges topic-starter's points? Then show me it. Show me the statistics that will prove that the forum of the 3dxchat game is not about 3dxchat game and community section is more or at least not less important than others. Number of posts? It means nothing, game and player community benefits nothing from some forum games or other stuff like this. While the discussions and suggestions in 3DXCHAT section helps people with game, helps developers get feedback and new ideas, and actually increase the quality of the game and the player experience. It's about quality of the posts, not the quantity. You can try to ask @Gizmo what is more important – a one post in Development & Suggestions / Technical Support or 10 posts in Off Topics. I would love to hear the answer. No. You say: The type of forum moderation you propose will not give me a comfort. It also will not give a comfort to person who vote against it. So no, not everyone. Mhm, that's why you want a feauture that can work so well for destroying the pluralism of opinions. At first – it's the ego of the topic starter who delete the post because someone dares to disagree with them and argue their points of view. I don't say that everyone will act like this or that it will be the only reason of post deletion ofc. I am just saying that such a things will happen. Probably a lot more often than you expect. Oh, really? Then go and try to delete any of my posts in your topic without removing the whole topic Would be a nice proof that you own it.

8 out of 16 members who voted want the feature. This is a very small sample, currently at least.

It's not a progress just because you said that it's a progress. We already saw that people can cause problems. Obviously I don't have such a statistics. But the absence of statistics does not mean that such a situation will not occur. It only means that we can't predict the frequency/chance of this situation occurring, at least with high accuracy. Yes you do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma I don't think so. And even if it will able make things clear – it does not guarantees to make things fair. This directly follows from the right of topic-starter to remove any unwanted content. This means that topic starter can remove my opinion solely because it's unpleasant for them and makes their arguments look not so good. There is no such a thing as "topic rules" on this forum. Subject of the topic? Yes. Terms of Service/Community Rules? Yes. Topic rules? No. That's some things that you can bring here if you will be able to convince Gizmo that there is need in such a thing, but not something that currently exists. Please don't tell to me what to tell people. It's not just some forum on the internet, it's forum centered about one particular game so it's natural that it should first of all be about the game and serve interests of players of this game in general, not only active forum members. It's also obvious for any reasonable person that game-related subforums have more priority over community section, with maybe an exception for an Events and Activities subofrum. No. Yeah, probably. But I am more interested in pluralism of opinions and the high quality of discussion it provides, that can lead to effective solutions. I am interested in how much topic can be useful for the game, player and forum community (again, I am talking about player and forum community in general, not only active forum members and safety of their ego) than in "good look". And I am sure I am not the only one who shares this point of view, probably not even the minority. No, I think about how I want to see this forum as a fair and useful for the game development and player's feedback place. A place that allows us to separate good ideas that will work and worth the effort from the bad ones. A place that provides a fair and equal discussion. A place where the truth is more important than someone's hurt ego.

That's quite a big exaggeration. Someone can, someone can not. No. I don't think so. Though I think that there are exist people who have problems with self-control and easily hurt ego. Giving them the moderation rights can create quite a dangerous mixture. And if you give the moderation rights to all members of community – you give it to them too. You making a false dilemma here – either almost unlimited self-moderation for everyone in their topics or moderation only by Gizmo/Lisa once a few days. Actually, there is exists more options: 1. Leave things as it is. 2. Unlimited/almost unlitimited self moderation in topics that users create. 3. Limited self moderation. Let people moderate their threads, but ONLY when the post goes against TOS, not just deleting any "unwanted" content. For example, option to hide posts in your thread till Gizmo/Lisa/moderator watch it and decide if post should be deleted because it was violating TOS or unhide post if the user hided it only because they did not like it. And if someone will abuse their moderation right – take this right away from them for increased time amout for each violation up to permanent. 4. Part-time hired moderator. 5. Few mods from community who can be changed if they do their work bad. I have no idea why you assume that I think that people and community around me are stupid I am not "afraid", it's just a forum, if it will be too uncomfortable and unplesant for me to be here – I will leave it. Though yes, I would not want to be kicked from someone's topic just because my posts are "unwanted". I am here not to write what will please the topic starter and make my posts "wanted" to them. I am here to voice my opinion, not to show how nice I can be. My opinion does not have to be plesant for topic starter and I am not obliged to share their views or refuse myself from arguing their point. Discussions on forum should be about finding a good solution and make a good suggestions to devs, not about masturbating each other's ego. More like "don't do things that topic starter will not like and everything will be fine". It's not the same. That's just hilarious. You can look at your own pool. You can look at my pool. You can look at topics about updates. It's almost always huge divide in user's opinions. We all have our views, our moral compass. What is wrong for one is fine for another one. It's not easy at all and never be. 1. I am not afraid. 2. If I don't want forum moderation rights given to users, it does not mean I don't want anything new lol. I have no idea how this kind of logic even works. I don't play forum games, not my thing, so no comments about it from me. Tho I can say that in general I agree with this question "Do you guys always act like pouting children when something happens that you dont like or is this a one time thing?" Just check any update's feedback thread. Too much people here really act like a pouting children.

Mhm! Your posts adressed to @DMitch76 were not an obvious sacrasm AT ALL! Sure they were not! Oh, I am so very cruel, mocking and "trolling" you – declaring that anything you say in public can be argued and discussed, becasue, well, it's a public space. Forum would be such a great place without trolls and bullys like me, forcing people to delete their threads.... Keep looking Have a nice day

3dxchat sure would benefit from better lighting system. With lights not goes through the walls and others solid obstacles.