JessicaX
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A better way to resolve the Pandora issue without losing the full iggy
JessicaX replied to Twiggy's topic in Open Forum
I have not seen where Twiggy said anything about her knowing how to run a business better than Gizmo. What I have seen is her proposing an idea that is very sound in logic because I too work with databases at work and what she has provided has a lot of merit and makes sense and is not bullshit. But a few people jump to conclusions and shoot it down> Instead of expecting her to provide examples and proof of why it world work, why don't you all show why it would not work? I don't point this at you personally Sage. I did go back and read and I have not seen Twiggy say anything about running a business better than Gizmo. Providing information on how to improve a product for the greater good is hardly the same as telling someone how to run a business. She is attempting to provide a solution to blocking Pandora and keeping account wide ignore. It seems there are a handful of people who REALLY are against account wide ignore. I will ask all of you this one question and would like for you to provide a logical answer. If there is a way to both block Pandora and keep account wide ignore, how is that not the best solution, as opposed to each avi having to be ignored separately? Some of you will come out and try to say nothing is 100% secure, or that you can just ignore each avi individually, or that it's not a big deal either way, or that people can just buy a new account. Those are not reasons, those are smoke screens to try and divert attention away from the problem and garner trust in a system that is vastly inferior and will cause more harm than good. Myself and many others are not dumb and see right through the bullshit. One major reason for the hate of account wide ignore because it gets in the way of some peoples mind fuck games. So let's hear ONE good reason why individual ignore is superior to account wide ignore, providing that Pandora can also be blocked. -
Fantastic event. Thanks to all the Djs for the awesome music.
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Yes we can read. Basically you said if people don't agree with how you see things, they are cunts and should go kill themselves. Did we miss something?
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The new landscape feature looks promising. Thank you.
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No it's not simple, not when you have no idea this person you are talking to is someone that has been after you for years. Taking away account wide ignore makes the ignore feature useless.
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Ignore is not powerful when it can be bypassed by making a new avi... for free. Just login for 1 month and you are good to go. We aren't dumb
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So people that get harassed are attention whores and whinging daft cunts and we should kill ourselves? Great advice. You would make a excellent politician. How are things equal when the system is made easier to harass people. Just because it does not happen to you does not mean it is not a problem for others. How dare anyone else do things different than you do. Also you should not attack people just because they don't agree with you. Prolly not a great idea to tell people to go kill themselves either just because they don't agree with you.
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What about the people who stalk and harass constantly? It will only make life very easy for those who cause problems. Not only that, it will promote bad behavior. Ignore is a weapon now. But these changes will make ignore useless. They can simply make a new avi and start the harassment again. This is a step backwards.
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What about someone who constantly harasses you... you iggy them... they make new avi... hi sweetie... I'm new in 3dx.. how are you? Bs goes on. I don't want to be mindfucked. I have a full time job and a child. I have shit to do. Ain't nobody got time for that!
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That seems very soon. I would say make sure you give plenty of time for proper planning.
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They have the ability to keep account wide ignore and also block Pandora but that would take way more effort than to just get rid of account wide ignore. The Pandora thing never bothered me and if they block it and it makes most people happy then I think it's a good thing. But they should not be removing one safety feature in order to fix a different safety feature. That's pretty unintuitive and very lazy.
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When you are very vocal about the hate for Pandora and also fight against account wide ignore... then that speaks volumes about your intentions.
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Sounds like fun
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And yes... maybe I am a bit more vocal than some others. I am the type of person who stands up for what I believe in. What's weird to me is that there seems to be an actual argument over whether or not we should have account wide ignore. Some are a bit more passive about it but some have even state that they would be happy to see account wide ignore gone. I would just like a logical reason as to why these people don't like it. Having the opinion that it is not working is not a good reason to get rid of it. For many of these cases I know the exact reasons why people want it gone. One is so they won't have to pay so much to play 3dx. I would just like to hear a real logical reason why it should be removed.
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I'm trying to see in that post where I attacked anyone or where I said the world revolved around me. Here's the thing... we all went through this close to 3 years ago and the devs should remember the backlash from removing account wide ignore the 1st time. I can assure you it was more than a few people who were upset about it.
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And yesterday I also replied to that explaining... avi ignore is not even an ignore. The person can just make another avi and keep up the harassment. Making a new account is possible but it's a good deterrant... especially if they are found out again and you also ignore that account. Then they have to buy another one. Eventually they will give up. Under the proposed system, not only is ignore useless, but it will actually make harassment much easier. Tho I could be wrong because nothing official has been stated. I guess we will see what they come up with. I also stated that yesterday as well. If I took anything you said the wrong way then I do apologize. You did suggest that the need for account wide ignore was exaggerated. I think it's working quite well. I guess we can agree to disagree.
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You are defending a system in which someone's right to block contact with another person is stripped away. What you or I or anyone else regards as an acceptable reason to do this is irrelevant. If someone wants to block contact from another person, then they should be able to. How about you tell us all why account wide ignore is so bad. And if it's no big deal as you suggest them what's wrong with keeping it in place? I can go on all day about the benifits of it. Let's hear about how it's bad for 3dx. I'm interested to know.
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I believe it comes down to them not being able to figure out how to have account wide ignore while also blocking Pandora. I don't really understand why they can't just keep account wide ignore and simply secure the database. Wouldn't that make everyone happy? Well there are some people who hate the idea of account wide ignore because that keeps them from harassing the same people. I would like to hear any logical reason why account wide ignore is bad and how that makes 3dx bad for people.
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You are defending a system that makes it easier for people to circumvent an ignore. That in itself is quite telling.
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Good point. People do have the right to do whatever they want. I also should have the right to avoid these people if I choose to not be part of that world. This update will take that right away from me.
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At least they must pay more and more to keep up the charade. Yes it is a good deterrant. Also just because it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen to others. Your logic is a bit flawed there. I have never had my house broken into, but I still do lock the doors when I leave.
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If I ignore someone for harassment, they can circumvent the ignore by simply making a new avi. Please explain how ignore is useful in this scenario.
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I will bite my tongue and wait to see what this will be but I do not have high hopes. I have a feeling they will just announce simple removal of account wide ignore and say they will somehow police the rules. If I want to block someone for my own reasons then that is my call, not anyone else's. And when I block someone, I do not want to be contacted by them again in any way, shape, or form. This change makes no sense. You are completely exposing everyone's personal security in order to combat pandora.
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No but forces them to pay for another account if they want to continue harassing. You would understand if it ever happened to you.
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You wanna harass someone even tho they have ignored you? They are working on it.
