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I think it's like most tests. You devise a test that suits what your testing.  (if you want a scientific test).

There are T and Z statistical tests based on >30 or <30.  But you have to test the right question. It needs to be specific too.  What question is it you want to ask? It has to be specific. can't be too general.

What question do you propose?

25 minutes ago, Diana Prince said:

I don't know how many members this official forum has, but not a single review here?
And I don't believe all Lovense users hide their status in 3DXC.

There was such a big hype about Lovense. And a big official party. But there is practically zero talk about this new gift from heaven (other than the technical flaws)?
Could it be that there are really not many people interested in it?

*Not knocking your desire to know (I think it is a good and logical question), but why would someone want to go in a forum and bother?

Sure, you may get a few,  but is that a good sample size to make a conclusion from? Sample size of 20-30 may be a minimum. 30 is the academic standard. That seems kinda low to me.

1 hour ago, Diana Prince said:

So what did we customers gain from the Lovense deal? Aside from the small minority that uses a Lovense?
Did you really expect that with that additional money, the dev(s) will now suddenly start to develop the core game like crazy?

And there was still not a single review, telling us if the "Lovense experience" is really THAT good that it is worth buying such a toy. Shouldn't there be dozens and dozens of raving reviews yet, praising the incredible new orgasm experience that the user now finally had, thanks to Lovense and the devs?
And in all of the hundreds of bios I have looked at in the last days, I only saw a single "Lovense User". Are they all hiding it or are there really so few of them?

Did you really think that group are going to do that? No, they are a silent bunch mostly who don't even know forums exist. Most don't have any desire for anyone to know what they are doing.

On 5/16/2021 at 7:29 AM, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

He is a troll who would like to get a Ban for such massive insult. 

Put on your big boy pants bro.  You know your premise was terrible.

On 5/15/2021 at 2:22 AM, pomme said:

with the means to use to decorate the room of the invitations like the toys created in 3d we can say that it is a general location. this room can be a toy and information store for newcomers looking for information. maybe it will make some creator happy to have visual high caliter toys in their room like shoes or clothes

You'd think since Lovense  is a major partner this would be an obvious thing.

Gizmo is also aware of it since the patch release. Shouldn't be long till fixed.

24 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

If you compare this video and the one from Pandora, you clearly see that the settings are not the same. And avec on the video you propose here, i'm not sure that if you apply the same settings to a smaller size it would not looks weird

Though it make me think that maybe the old settings with a very small speed up of the bounce there was would fit

I would disagree.

 As I have already laid out.

25 minutes ago, Lunarelf said:

Can you please stop posting these...sags? It's quita wierd...

Everyone's breast it's different, someone's softer and more saggy looking, and someone's smaller but bouncyer than others, just like your first picture

aaaaaand: this physics is showing while they're hopping, do we even have the ability to jump in the game yet?

 

What is weird about anatomy?  You need to have a general understanding of it and movement.

Of course different boobs react differently. That is the point. The newer soft body physics are closer and better than the old hard body Nvidia approach native to Unity. I don't think though things are to the point individual breasts react independently yet in Unity 5. I could be wrong.

Jumping is another subject. I am no expert, but that is a collide that also affects soft bodies  (I think).

If you look at this guys work, it should be clear how much better things can be when Gizmo get things dialed in.

Look at the natural movement of breast and butt. This is only a quick example.

https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/726454

I am  NOT stating this is what Gizmo is using. I have no inside knowledge. I am stating that the newer physics are a superior approach. This, or whatever he's doing along these lines.

THAT is pretty impressive in my book.

Compared to the old way, yes the physics are better overall. That doesn't mean they are right and don't need adjusted - as I've said from the begining.

As anyone can see from the examples, natural boobs move all over the place. The old way - good for it's time looks like a bad boob job from a cheap cosmetic surgeon. Plenty of videos showing how the newer physics can make far more natural movement.

Even butts.

7 minutes ago, Xizi said:

I am not quite understand how being against one exact new, pretty contradictory, change in game means that person against cuanges and improvements in general. That's some pretty weird and definitely not smart generalisation.

And I am not even saying it as one of people who want old physics back. I personally would prefer keep new one but get it tweaked to make it... Less intense, especially during simple walking. And would also be good to let player chose between old and new physics in settings.

I referred specifically to the breast changes and elaborated to what is attractive to women from other worlds if you read back. Physical Avi customization is a big bonus from other worlds that doesn't have this level of customization. (Men also). It's one of the big draws.

And yes, I'm sure Gizmo will tweak the physics and only go backwards if there was no path forward. 

It looks like there are several things he's working on fixing currently.

Btw, everyone should get used to snafus after updates. Notice the lipstick issue? It popped up out of nowhere and no lipstick update was added. Something else messed it up.

1 minute ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

When you run away it proves my point even more.

Your original premise was that the breast physics 'don't look' real. 

I then rebutted your assertion and later provided actual evidence of real boobs to dispute your assertion. You didn't like visual evidence that contradicted you.

You then argued later to go back to how they were.

I countered your arguement with the old way doesn't look natural.

Later you stated you knew what the majority wanted. 

I disputed that.

That is everything in a nutshell.

Just now, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

Ahah  You are trolling me. I knew! Omg. It doesn`t work with me. You could know about that 

If I was Trolling you, you would know it.

If you can't rember what you have stated what's the point to continue? All one has to do is read back.

My memory is rather good.

1 minute ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

I asked You to show me my words. Do you know how to quote a post?

We both know what you said.

It's not worth the effort.

Old evolves into the new in a growing VR world.  Development is what draws people in.

Updated content is what they want.

Personalization is what the vast majority have wanted forever.

Going backwards is not wise.

1 minute ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

Let me show you where you were wrong at start.

Only "fake" boobs act the old way.

noun

 

1. a thing that is not genuine; a forgery or sham.

    

   All the virtual reality is a simulation and "fake" at some point. There was your logic mistake. Old ones and new ones are fakes. You do like new one more, I do like the old one more. When you said that with zero arguments "if you every dated a gal with..." like, you just wanted to sound cogently, wisely. But you didn`t sound like that because there were no enough arguments from your side. You posted many pictures that weren`t comapred with pictures from 3dxchat. Why should I watch them? They can not be an argument while they have different size, speed, movement and whatnot. If you have no arguments, why do you start discussions?

Look, I am very well aware of how people employ Red Hearings in arguement to try and shift focus -which won't work.

I have confronted you with your own words, and now you realize how your position to go backwards in Development is ludicrous and your claim to know what the majority want is preposterous.

Your own words are right here.

10 minutes ago, Tsela said:

You are not part of the minority, nor the majority of the women. So this might not be your concern, don't lecture people. It's not always "whining" if people bring up their concerns and frustrations, as consumers on a public forum. that's what this place is for and we can talk about it.

We can share our opinion, sure. for example here is mine. The breasts seem to move fine without clothes, but it looks somewhat awkward when I see large sweaters bouncing around only in the chest area vigorously as hell. But this is only my opinion about it. I have no place to lecture women about their needs.

Let them speak for themselves. Don't lecture them. That's all

Having made women's clothing for years and having made a good chunk of money makes me far more educated in what is desired than you. You also need to understand basic anatomy. 

Whining is the process where instead of pointing something out critically and having the option to make it better but choosing not to is whining.

I will speak from a point of knowledge on the subject. I have far more experience in these matters it seems than you. 

You are perhaps the biggest whiner on the forum. All anyone has to do is read back through your incessant bashing of the Devs. I will be more than happy to lecture you.

1 minute ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

Learn how to read a text. Still going to waste my time?

I have read you and quoted you.

To even think most people don't want development has to be the most rediculous thing I've heard.

You may be in this tiny world, but updates a d development in the older and bigger worlds are the most sought after requests. Many women come over to 3DX from the older workds specifically because of the Avi customization. Breast being among the  customizations they like.

PLEASE dont try to tell me about your knowledge of what is wanted. You are dead wrong if you think going back is a good thing. It's the most stupid of all.

2 minutes ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

You are wrong. Read my 1st post again. Don`t lie on me lol If you will continue wasting my time, i will ignore you. There will be no fights here.

You just said that 3 posts above. That is an out of touch assumption. You have also stated you want to go backwards in development.

Your words.

3 minutes ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

Did I said that? Did I say i would not like it? Can you see the first post in here and what it was about? Why are you spamming here? Why are you talking about things that out of the subject?

You stated you knew what the majority wanted - which you clearly don't if you are arguing against improvements. Breast in this specific case.

1 minute ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

I know better what majority wants. Try to get why i know this better. I don`t care what you said in your 1st reply because there were no arguments from your side and still not. But you can always see how many agree or disagree. I hope you know how to do that. Have a good one. 

Lol

You think the majority don't want improvements?

That has to have just taken first place on the ludicrous assumption list.

8 minutes ago, Tsela said:

I understood you quite well as I was reading through the topics. Just you were trying to be a smartass about what women would like to see in a game they enjoy. And I simply told you to cool it down, stop being a jerk to them because their breast physics aren't your concern. They are wearing it. So it's theirs.

That's all I have to say about this. 

See ya

Now you are upset because you realize - I realize, you really don't know what your talking about and just felt the need to add your two cents and you are trying to claim you know what women want (and everyone). Which in this conversation would be the same as arguing they and others DON'T  want improvements to breast physics.

Which makes no sense whatsoever.

8 minutes ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

I really wouldn`t like to see or to make forum fights. It feels like waste of time.

I will repeat that new physics is horrible at some points and this is a way better to return the old one. The new physics seems a bug as Diana says(as Gizmo said in the world chat), so i hope that the devs will fix it. But would be great to have an ability to have a slider for physics. This is not the 1st thing in the list because there are many other things that were promised. But as an idea.

As I said in my first reply to you, you can like what you want, but to remain in the past is not even close to what the majority wants. They want improvements and Gizmo is working at providing them.

Most don't seem bothered with what you are a d if it bugs you, turn the physics off.

4 minutes ago, Tsela said:

I know how everything moved and moves, I've been here in this game for several years.

But what I'm saying is. That this topic probably doesn't concern you since it's teh women who decide whaat they would like or not for themselves when it comes to their appearance. Same way I hate women talking me down when I am asking for clothes and stuff, implying that they know better what men want and need than the men themselves, is retarded and rude. But it's alsso rude if you beat your mouth about what women need since you are not them. Alright? Just learn your place.

Bro, how long you've been in the game is irrelevent. RL male or female and how they feel an a a out breast physics is not as relevent as how they actually move anatomically.

Your "feelings"point doesn't make sense. For the simple fact that a imations arn't made on feelings, but a anatomy.

This should be very simple to u derstand.

2 minutes ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

I started this topic. You have an ability to read the 1st post. You have an ability to turn yourself off with all of your whinings   I will never stop if i don`t feel like that.

I will post a lot more. Deal with that 

Yes, you started a topic in a forum for discussion.

The arguement to go back to how things were before is rediculous.

1 minute ago, Tsela said:

Well I don't really wanna say yes or no about this topic. Probably boobs are more of a sensitive subject for women than they are for you, they are the ones wearing them. So maybe you shouldn't "educate" them about what they would like in the game.. I hate it also when a woman tries to educate me about what men want.

Second: Don't speak in the name of the devs, talking about what they will or will not do, tweak or not. You have no place to talk back to people here from that position. You can give opinions, but that's it.

Lol

The Devs will address if they feel the need. They have already addressed this in world chat. Don't state what you don't know.

If you didn't know how breasts moved, now you have several examples to learn from.