I've read through all the posts and it seems like there are some misunderstandings about ethics and moral. I know this is a heavily debated subject among academics, but i really dont feel like we can apply it to this community. So i suggest that we instead of arguing about ethics/morals, we debate the standing of the social norms (if there are any) in our group/sub-culture. The normal way of defining norms really dont apply well either as breaking the norms usally has a punishment of some sort (exclusion or being stigmatised). The question should rather be, what are our social norms and how does it apply to the community members? (sorry for my bad english i hope i made it clear enough)