Zokora

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I'm not quite sure what you are discussing about. Someone asking for a gift to have sex with you? If you do not want, say no and that's it. They don't force you to give them a gift, they only tell you to have only sex with you when you give them a gift. Your decision to agree or refuse. This is only a problem if you expect everyone to have sex with you, as you paid for the game. And sorry, the others paid as well, so where does that claim come from? Focus on those who are willing to have sex with you without getting a gift and everything is ok.

What do you know that I don't know, Elf? Do not try to teleport down to octopus bar, that leads to weird effects.....

First guests are heading towards the Octpous Bar

Ok, Beccie, I was just wondering for what you put that into this thread in this case; if you do not imply that I am complaining, this comment seems to me a bit at the wrong place, but nevertheless, as we have sorted this out, let me summarize: I do not complain and you do not imply I complain .

Did I? Where and when?

For what are you posting that comment in that thread?

What do you want to tell with that, Beccie? With no word in my post I complained about anything, I was just making suggestions, trying to get in communication. And I never judge about someone doing something right or wrong. So if any of my words can be misread in that way I want to state this clearly: With this post I neither complain nor tell the devs they are doing something wrong.

Dear Lisa, first of all I would like to thank you for announcing Patch 362 and the contents being inside. I appreciate the risk you were going to announce it, even though there seemed to be some obstacles before implementing it, as the fact shows, that it has not come out yet, nearly one month after the announcement. I can understand that there are a lot of doubts from your side regarding some people in the forum behaving and reacting very rude if something does not meet their expectations, nevertheless I fear that a month of missing communication about the status of patch 362 does not improve the current situation and the dissatisfaction of the community; and as well the rumours start to spread that the last server break down was in connection with a failed patch 362 update. Anyway, there is a part of the community - like me - who appreciates the work you do; and having worked a long time close to software development, I know all the imponderabilities in that area. As well I know that there are some people who will never be satisfied, but please do not be geared to those People, as with the missing communication you rather affront that part of the community which is here already for a longer time, appreciating the advantages of this game compared to others, but annoyed of the lack of communication - we are waiting for patch 362 for one month now without any Information. What I would like to see: A plan about the next patches and their content and the scheduleAn update on the schedule if there are delaysA Feedback on all the proposals and wishes of the community members (sometimes it is as if we just could put our wishes directly into the void)Missing Information leads to rumours and dissatisfaction, and I guess noone expects that you always keep the time schedule, but it would be helpful to get Information about delays, and even one line like 'We have problems with Patch 362, we are not able yet to announce a reliable date' is better than no communication. I hope you find the time to read this and I would be lucky to read about your point of view on this. Zokora

For those who have not been to the Octopus Bar yet, here is the shortest way to it:

For me, eroticism - which is that part that makes the difference between good and lousy sex - arises in the head, and at least that is independent of the fact if sex is virtual or real. Nevertheless, besides the emotional nearness, which can be achieved by communication even on a platform like 3dx, there is a need for physical nearness as well, at least for me, and this is where the limits of games like 3dx are.

For me it does not matter how you start a pm, a 'Hi' is as well ok as a '/me'. It is rather annoying if you get the Impression, the one who sends you the pm is in a urge for sex, and you are one of the exchangeable objects for doing so. Even though this is a sex game, I will get closer only to People who I consider as sympathical and interesting, and to find this out, some chat is quite helpful . It is the attitude of agreeing that it might be that we do not have sex and that this is ok, which makes the difference. This gives me the Impression you did not approach me for "sex with anyone" but because you are interested to getting to know me. That means, a "/me stare at your butt" is a rather weak beginning, while a "/me wonders about how many people already got lost in Zokora's Adventureworld" might be the beginning of a conversation. But still this does not mean, that the obvious consequence is sex.

By accident I have a bulk-pack of octopus Repellent available and might sell it for a good Price

Adventureworld is glad to present the second event of the 'Musical Tour through the Adventureworld', this time in the Octopus Bar at the bottom of the ocean 3 hours of music related to the the ocean DJs will be: 08:00 CET / 02:00 EST - 09:30 CET / 03:30 EST :Zokora 09:30 CET/ 03:30 EST - 11:00 CET / 05:00 EST: DJStarrFyre We are looking forward to an awesome evening

Sorry, if I am the only one who does not know, but your post brings up some questions to me: Who wins? Is there a battle? What is that battle about? For what did you participate in that battle? Did it catch your eyes that in an argument there always seem to be innocent victims, and it is always the other one who is to blame? I see this post as well divert more and more into allegations, creating worse feelings for all participants like a downward spiral. Of course you can do that, I am just wondering for what? What do you expect to achieve? Get the other one to confess you are right? I doubt the other one will. And is it worth all the bad feelings? It is not WC or any other medium, I would invite all to change your point of view for a Moment from the concept of guilt to the concept of responsibility. As seen in the word, responisbility means you decide how to response, and that is your contribution to all arguments, battles and fights. And while - as I mentioned above - it seems always the other one to be guilty, it is always both who are responsible. Someone telling something in WC that is not true? You can Insult him, you can correct the wrong statement, you can ignore it, this is the part where it is your decision, your responsibility how it continues. I admire Olesya, who is going through the forums and the WC, spreading love and lust for life, everything else seems to roll off her so easily. Maybe we should keep her in mind as an ideal when the next battle comes up. Zokora

In General I do not care about the status messages as I never used it and read it for the first time due to this thread. I just think you would have to close the whole forum and abandon the game to avoid people misusing it. You can provide teddy bears to all People, those who want to, will find a way to abuse it as a weapon.

Thank you, Twiggy, for sharing your thoughts and you kind words. Regarding the forgiveness I agree that it is often not easy to do so, I just wanted to point out that we all should keep in mind that we do not forgive in order to do the one a favour, who has hurt us, but to do ourselves a favour. In the end it is ourselves who have to live our life carrying inside all those incidents we have not forgiven, like a crust around our hearts and our minds. What has been done, cannot be undone, but we can change the way how we handle it. By not forgiving someone we influence possibly our own lives more in a negative way than the life of the other one, and the question is just, if it is worth that, as it might stand between us and a lucky life. Forgiveness does not mean to be friend with the other one, and it does not mean you consider what the other has done as good. It just means, that you make your peace with the incident, agree that it happened, and - and this is quite important as well - forgive yourself, that you let it happen. Keeping that in mind it might make it easier sometimes to forgive, and you as well can forgive from the distance and keep the consequence to not seeing that person again.

My view on 3DX As it seems as if I have reached the limits of the possibilities of room building here – or at least I am too impatient to wait longer than 5 minutes to leave the room editor – There will be no additional locations being set up in the next time. Thus, I will use the creative break to provide my point of view on 3dx to the community; hosting my rooms for 3 months now I have undergone some ups and downs here, not all of them being funny and some of them struck me deeply. All this sex stuff Even though this is a sex game (or maybe rather a building and dancing game with some sex options?) I am often quite astonished how few efforts some people put into finding a partner for sex. Besides all colds, here is a typical dialogue I encounter quite often (if there is an attempt to talk at all): XXX: Hi, looking sexy, wanna have some fun? Zokora: No, thank you XXX: Why not? Wow! Explain yourself! You are in a sex game but you do not want to have sex? Uhm, not right. I love sex, but I do not want to have sex with someone approaching me this way. Of course, if you ask me if I want to have fun, that makes you irresistible, and if I refuse, I am frigid. But all joking apart, at that moment I am always not sure if I should laugh, get angry or really tell why not, even though this would become a longer answer. And even though a ‘No’ is just a ‘No’ and there is no need to argument about that, I will provide an answer to that here: First of all, finding me on the game does not mean automatically that I am horny as hell and jump on the next person I see. For me this is as well a social platform, meeting my friends and chatting with them or hosting my room and sharing the music I love. If I look besides the pure mechanics of sex (rubbing something at / into something) it is mainly the eroticism I am looking for, and this is something that develops in my mind based on some fantasies about what my partner and I am doing together; maybe 20% of that being covered by the existing poses. The rest is arising out of the dialogue with my partner, telling each other what we are doing and how we are feeling, like moving my lips slowly along my partner’s neck and covering it with soft kisses. Without that I do not need the other 20% of the poses as well, I could leave the game and completely use my fantasy. That means, that someone who wants to have sex with me should at least prove his communicative skills and his ability for being descriptive before trying to partner me. In addition to that I have my preferences regarding sex, containing a longer foreplay, and foreplay as well means feeling the erotic tension arise within a chat, as well as having some time after the ‘action’ together. The best way to make sure that my partner wants the same, is to communicate. If you don’t want to communicate, this is fine for me, as long as you move ahead and try to find someone else. There is a lot of rooms providing that. I am quite sensitive as well regarding some values like respect, which are important to me, that means any idea of insulting or degrading me is a no go. And no, you can’t fuck me, I am not your fuck object, there are people I have sex with, but these are people who treat me with respect. And in the end, even though we pay a monthly subscription, that does not grant or give anyone the right to have sex with anyone here. And being flooded with cold partner and slow dance requests is not funny at all and rather annoying and shows a deep lack of respect in my eyes. One of the weirdest things I have encountered during the time I hosted my room is a guy who came into my room, undressed and started to dance close to me. When I moved aside, he followed. Even the warning I gave him did not help, so he is one of the very few people on my ignore list. I guess this is the result of the anonymity of the game, acting that way does not really have much consequences, but it shows the attitude and the value system of some people. So I try to keep a respectful distance from them. Relationships and marriages In my time being here I have seen a lot of relationships and marriages, a lot of them leading to very much drama, which made me think a lot about how this comes. Again I think it is the anonymity of the game causing a lot of the drama, leading to avatars disappearing without a trace or people with several avatars cheating on their partners. I do not know if they really intend to hurt their partner with that type of behaviour, at least they should know they do. For all those who are looking for a exclusive relationship or a marriage, from what I have observed I just can give the following recommendations: An exclusive relationship or marriage can only work if you got as well some rl info about the other. That shows some sort of commitment and prevents you from finding one day the avi of your partner deleted or your partner not showing up any moreYou should both agree on the ‘conditions’ of your relationship like having sex with others. Expectations which are not communicated are a direct way to drama, starting at that moment when your partner does not meet themTo be clear, this is just my opinion, feel free to have another one, and in my eyes most relationships and marriages break up due to one of those 2 points. Besides that of course relationships and marriages will face the same challenges as in RL. Anonymity of the game Besides the topics mentioned above, the anonymity of the game makes it an interesting place for some observations how people behave. Where is the difference between being anonymous and not anonymous? In our society people behaving in a way that does affect the society members in a negative way by outlawing, which touches one of our basic fears, to be alone. In a game where you are anonymous, you can easily undergo this by creating a new avi and start from the beginning. This has effects in 2 directions, on the one hand it shows, if people don’t do things because it is against their values or because they only fear the consequences, and the game proves that it is often the second case. On the other hand, this raises some sort of persecution mania, in the game, declaring some avis to the impersonation of the evil; and if anyone behaves not in the way the people like, they are accused to be an alt of that evil avi. This brings up the question if you already have observed that it is always the others who are evil, which brings up a perfect reason to fight them, you just fight the evil. George W. Bush did with the Iraq war, and Donald Trump does as well, in his eyes he just fights the evil. This is what we all seem to have in common with him, we are fast with our judge that the other one is to blame and is the evil and that we are innocent. Oh, we do the same as the other, but we have good reasons, the other one not. Insulting is bad, but if the other one insults us we have the right to insult him too, as he started, so we have a good reason. The funny (or rather weird) thing is: this does not make us feel better, it just makes (hopefully) the other feel at least as bad as we feel, as that evil person needs to be punished. So we tear each other down and down in an endless spiral. But how to feel better? What is the alternative? There is two things you can do: Replace punishment by consequences. Punishment means to get the other feel bad, consequence means to get the other feel good. If someone insults you, a punishment would be to insult him as well, starting the downward spiral. A consequence might be to put him on your ignore list. This is good for you as that person is not able to insult you againForgiveness can work wonders. Do not believe that forgiveness is something you do for the other person, it is something you can do for yourself. It means you resign your claim for revenge, that does not mean you have to consider what the other has done for good. It helps you to drop that incident out of your mind and not carry it with you for years.Call me unworldly, but this is the way I am on, and even if I do not success every time, the first step is that I forgive myself as well. Song of the week My song of the week is an older one of Elbow. I like the sound of this group and have been listening to their songs for years now. This song is called 'Red'. Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMH1UXlM9OE

Thank you, Mulan, for the awesome tunes, it was a pleasure to do this event together with you and I enjoyed this a lot . And this has definitely not been the last event here, I'm already thinking about the next one, maybe I will do a tour through all locations with theme oriented music . Next Musical stop will be the octopus bar-

3 and a half hours left, the stage is prepared

Wow, at least the server break down made this my fastest growing thread

And if you like good Music, it will sound nice as well

Any Information would be nice, even a 'We do not know how long it takes'.......

Wow, you are a star!!!!!

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