TamsinUK

I think the difference between trolling and discussion becomes very clear here. The difference between bullying and trolling is also clear, no?

Why do you like his offensive posts and continue to support him if you don’t agree with what he does?

There are people who post here who remind me of the things the official media say in my home country. I suppose we are fortunate here that the only person who can make us disappear is Gizmo. I think he has often been played with false narratives in the same way the government in my home country play the judiciary to remove problems. The only people playing better than you are the ones who support gender shaming, homophobia, minority shaming, etc. Edit here - I think the people who support these things cannot be good people.

I think Mar-Mohan should read her last post again. There is much irony. I think this thread poses valid questions. Most people make points and have a bit of fun. Some people get triggered and make it not a discussion but a defence of someone who is an adult and capable of defending himself. There is no defence for gender shaming, homophobia, abuse, spreading lies. It does not matter who the culprit is. It is all against the rules. It does not matter how hard you try to discredit people who say opinions, the points they make remain valid, no? I make edit here - By defending him you are agreeing that he has done the things people accuse him of. By implication you say you agree with the sentiments he expresses. You are welcome to this opinion. You are welcome to state this opinion. I ask that you be honest about it.

I will do that. I had busy day in real today. Looking at today's posts I am very dissapointed. The usual troll activity has been bad. They have posted some really awful things. I do not want to read this. I do my best to show this for what it is, I make reports about any posts I think break the rules. I feel that I flog the dead donkey but somebody has to stand up for what they believe is right.

Only one of those is obviously not an alt of you. You were very rude about her in a PM. I have screen grab of this PM which was deleted by somebody.

I think that is what she wants. To show that I don’t have control over who posts here. That point is important enough to her so she repeats. That is ok if it is an honest belief, which is why reply. It is not ok if it intended to be annoying.

Is the answer to trolling here to start a thread about something like butt hair? A very interesting video.

I try to set an example. That is all. I do not want RobT to post here because I do not think he will follow that example. I change my mind if he shows he can. I say the same to everybody else who I am not sure of. I cannot enforce my wishes, I can only ask people to abide by them. I do not want to have to enforce my wishes. The point of my request is for people to show that they can moderate themselves. I think you understand this and you are finding your own approach. Today has been a better day on the forums. Very quiet therefore not a good example. I cannot hope that it is anything to do with my diary. That will come if enough people decide they want to be mindful of others. Please forgive if you think I preach.

I want to reply to Mar_Mohan. She has missed my point. I do realise that I do not have any control over who posts here. What I was asking for was for people to to show each other respect when they do. That is why I say it is not too much to ask. I would like this thread to be a beacon to show how the forums could be if people want it. I want it to be a positive diary. I want it to be a brave diary too, that does not avoid controversy. Where difficult topics are discussed with respect, intelligence and consideration for others. I would like humour as well, teasing is OK, no. Bullying and trolling will be reported. I think this is what was intended when the user diaries were created.

Thank you Xandisweet, I think you will understand why I take your good wishes with a lot of caution. Now i ask everybody to take their altercations elsewhere, even those people i normally accept. I suggest a certain new diary that has appeared is a good place. I say that anybody can post here if they abide by my rules and show respect and talk with intelligence, humour and consideration for other people. I make exception for RobT who I do not want here again. I do not think that is too much to ask.

Yes! I wonder if it is OK to troll the trolls with images of the Dalai Lama? I think perhaps not but I like the idea.

Good bye, LilCal. You show who you are now. Edit here - Thank you Sleeper_Girl

Thank you, Mar_Mohan. That is what I did. I will try again sometime. The Dalai Lama is somebody who cannot fail to be respected. Edit here. Thank you too Mikey.

I include ToxocallySweet too. I do not want this in my diary. Now go away.

RobT and LilCal have nothing to offer my diary. They go away now.

Thank you, Mikey. People can click on the link, no?

Why does the image not show?

I remind some people https://imgur.com/a/Cti3WmA

Thank you Chloe, Mikey and Sleeper_Girl.

Bullying is ok because of free speech, no? You might think me an idiot and to say you think that is ok. What is not ok is to keep pointing at me and saying ‘idiot’ over and over. What is worse is getting friends to do same. Worse to use alts to make yourself look strong. You are not idiot, I am not either. Both of us know difference between free speech and bullying.

Are you sure that there as many as five trolls? I want to say a variation of something I said in RobT's erstwhile thread. Is trolling a sex game a high status troll? If someone were to say in Troll-land 'RobT trolls a sex game'. Would he be elevated to 'Troll of the Year' and celebrated throughout Troll-land. I do not think this likely. Trolls would probably say 'What a sad m**********r'. The problem in WC is not adverts because they are useful, even if they can be annoying. The big thing is trolling, abuse and bullying.

I want to use my last planned post from my old diary as the first of my new. I am glad Gizmo has locked my old. Thank you, Gizmo. 3dxChat is a sex game, as well as it’s other aspects which I think are as important, possibly more. That does not mean I will have sex with anybody or that I want sex at any time. The person who decides who I have sex with, when I have sex and what sex I do is me. Nobody else. The same can be said for other things, that the person who decides what happens to my avatar is me. I do not expect anyone to agree, although I expect most people will, at least a bit. What I do expect is for my opinion to be respected.

I think I take a risk opening my new diary so soon.. I would prefer my diary to be filled up with good things, positive experiences in 3dxChat. I will post an image of the Dalai Lama to encourage. I am well aware that serious and emotive issues will appear occassionally. I want those issues to be discussed calmly, intelligently and with respect to all parties. When it comes to the 'he did it first', 'no she did' altercations I think everybody knows who started it. Everybody knows it was started a long time ago. Everybody knows that the person who started it is intent on promoting attitudes that are not supported by most people in the world in 2019. I think the deliberate confrontation has to stop now. If people abide by the rules we will all get along just fime. It is obvious that Gizmo is very unlikely to change the moderation of the forums. I think it is important that the we forum users show we can moderate ourselves. Seriously what do you think newcomers think of it all? ******* Edit here ******* The image of the Dalai Lama will have to wait. Work happens.

Why then do you always support him even when his opinions are alien to most people’s in the western world. In particular his more misogynistic opinions. Why do you support him in bullying people? That is what the ‘hugs issue’ is. You know this and continue with it.