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The REFERRAL program as it is might be a very bad idea


Tsela

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The referral program as it is might be a really silly idea as far as reward systems go.

The reward for the user is one month gametime. While  the reward for the "friend" who joins is 10k Xgold and 10% discount.

Now... There are quite a number of people who actually pay for the subscription monthly also, but even besides them.

What stops people from creating fake accounts paying for a month and their main account also gets teh same month. Becoming a month for two accounts with even 10% discount.

They could repeat this a few times which just increases the possibility of people creating fake accounts instead. Because the month they bought for it, is not lost on a fake account. they can use the fake account also until it expires for anything, while their main is getting a month for the same money.

It can be harmful since it rewards basicaly those who would make a number of accounts for anything from trolling purposes to anything else. And the money invested in the extra account is not even lost since it bought a month on the main account also, even if they manage to get banned.

So please reconsider this reward system. This basicaly enables people to buy a month for two accounts for the price of one. also with 10% discount. It's a no brainer

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If you think about it. Why would they care if someone bought more subscriptions? Thst's what they want.

 

I'd like to see a cash out option. X amount for each new referral. I know a few who make several thousands a year off their websites referring to RLC. Same could happen here. 

They arn't interested in subscriptions - just cold hard cash.

 

After all, buisness to buisness is about the Benjamins. Not subscriptions.

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Just now, THX said:

If you think about it. Why would they care if someone bought more subscriptions? Thst's what they want.

 

I'd like to see a cash out option. X amount for each new referral. I know a few who make several thousands a year off their websites referring to RLC. Same could happen here. 

They arn't interested in subscriptions - just cold hard cash.

Man... It doesn't give them more cash at all. Only additional fake accounts. since it ALSO gives a free month to the persons main account. basically they get the same cash. Since it's the same shit if a person buys an additional account through the referral program with 10% discount and 10.000 Xgold extra. Just to charge his main account with a month.

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5 minutes ago, Tsela said:

Man... It doesn't give them more cash at all. Only additional fake accounts. since it ALSO gives a free month to the persons main account. basically they get the same cash. Since it's the same shit if a person buys an additional account through the referral program with 10% discount and 10.000 Xgold extra. Just to charge his main account with a month.

From 3DX's perspective  I doubt they care.

It's all about the money as any buisness is. Not saying your wrong. What I'm saying is if the goal it to increase customer base, make it a cash referal system.  Take subscriptions away. Make referral less. 

 

Pay X amount per referal and X amount for everytime they resubscribe.

 

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9 hours ago, Tsela said:

The referral program as it is might be a really silly idea as far as reward systems go.

The reward for the user is one month gametime. While  the reward for the "friend" who joins is 10k Xgold and 10% discount.

Now... There are quite a number of people who actually pay for the subscription monthly also, but even besides them.

What stops people from creating fake accounts paying for a month and their main account also gets teh same month. Becoming a month for two accounts with even 10% discount.

They could repeat this a few times which just increases the possibility of people creating fake accounts instead. Because the month they bought for it, is not lost on a fake account. they can use the fake account also until it expires for anything, while their main is getting a month for the same money.

It can be harmful since it rewards basicaly those who would make a number of accounts for anything from trolling purposes to anything else. And the money invested in the extra account is not even lost since it bought a month on the main account also, even if they manage to get banned.

So please reconsider this reward system. This basicaly enables people to buy a month for two accounts for the price of one. also with 10% discount. It's a no brainer

tsela listen If X player already registered and having a account brings a new player(new email) gets one month free X friend pays the month with 10% discount  so even if the new email its their account that person paid one more sub out of nowhere ^^ 3dxchat has gain one more month money worth :) 

Ofc X person got a free month but also paid 1 more month that they wouldnt otherwise :) 

Sexgamedevil Did that to help players that might have hard time to pay ..and with a lil effort gain free months :) 

Its a very awesome gesture from sexgamedevil to help ppl :) and same time earn more new subs :) 

Its Sexgamedevil way to give back to this comunity :) for supporting the game all those years 

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6 minutes ago, THX said:

From 3DX's perspective  I doubt they care.

It's all about the money as any buisness is. Not saying your wrong. What I'm saying is if the goal it to increase customer base, make it a cash referal system.  Take subscriptions away. Make referral less.

 

Well sure it's all about money. and of course it's perfectly ok and can be beneficial to have a referral program. The only problem is this really dumb reward system which doesn't help them at all in any way, quite the contrary. People abusing this reward system will not give them more money. Not a single dime. they are basically buying an extra month at a time for their own account while creating a free dummy account at the same time. Only the moronic reward system is a problem here which is only beneficial for them if they, for god know what reason want to see more created accounts even if that doesn't mean more money.

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They arn't  'giving back' Alivia. They are 'retaining customers.

 

I dunno offhand without calculating a good referal fee, but there are those out there who run porn websites that used to make many thousand a year just in referal fee of new customers.

It could be done here. They have most of the system in place already.

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6 minutes ago, Tsela said:

Well sure it's all about money. and of course it's perfectly ok and can be beneficial to have a referral program. The only problem is this really dumb reward system which doesn't help them at all in any way, quite the contrary. People abusing this reward system will not give them more money. Bot a single dime. they are basically buying an extra month at a time for their won account while creating a free dummy account at the same time. Only the moronic reward system is a problem here which is only beneficial for them if they, for god know what reason want to see more created accounts even if that doesn't mean more money.

You could be right. I honestly havn't looked at the numbers. But it would have to be below the annual monthly cost if a sub was made for them to be loosing anything I'd think.

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THX gets it but for those who don't...

It looks like this:

Do I want to charge my account with a month? Sure! I'll just use the Referral code to create a new account , I even get 10% discount. and I also have an additional account for any purpose with 10k extra Xgold. And I bought myself a month of gametime. I can also load both accounts on the same computer without any problem at the same time. the client can be started multiple times. Did that give them any extra money? No. I want to charge my account with a month anyway. It only gives me an extra account.

ALSO on the extra account it enables the ownership of 2 additional avis free of charge, with the extra 10k Xgold on it. You will see bunch of new avis jumping out of nowhere, while the playerbase will remain pretty much the same.

Having a referral program is good. But this reward system is really stupid. It only means an extra free account, on a discount, whenever someone want to buy a month of gametime.

It only gives a helping hand to bunch of these silly troll wannabes. Who are already using this system as we speak, mind you.

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They should remove rewards for a month of subscription. Or cut it a lot, giving just 5k xgold or something like this. Maybe make it the way that when refferal reaches a milestone of subscription (6 and 12 months) in any way, be it just paying for year of subscription right away, or two times for 6 months, or montly, or any other combination – referer claims the 1 month of subscription for each milestone.

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I wonder how much this has been thought through? 

If a player decided to have an additional account for the basis of trolling or disrupting others, the scenario could be as follows:

Player X sets up a free Email account, then sends that account the referral link, which they set up as Player Y and pay 1 months subscriptions with 10% discount

Player X now has an extra month added to their account, so effectively has player Y free for 1 month, in fact, at a saving.

Player Y also gets 10000 XGold, which enables them to create an alt on that account.

So, Player X now has 2 trolls effectively free for 1 month, then cancels the sub and does the same again.

 

Interesting thought

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Well this is more a desperate attempt to win players. More and more people are leaving and not returning because the developers are not concerned about the wishes that people have had here for many years and have also made known on the forum. I myself will give it up in June, I am done with it

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Any referral program is okay for any game that wants to grow up. But Tsela made a fair point. I've seen a lot of referral programs, but they weren't that tasty.

Maybe 1month, but +20000 Gold, or 15 days instead of 1 month?  This referral program sounds "tasty" while it isn`t placed in the mouse trap.

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On 2/18/2020 at 3:07 AM, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

Any referral program is okay for any game that wants to grow up. But Tsela made a fair point. I've seen a lot of referral programs, but they weren't that tasty.

Maybe 1month, but +20000 Gold, or 15 days instead of 1 month?  This referral program sounds "tasty" while it isn`t placed in the mouse trap.

 

 

She raises a point that has worked for over 10 years.

 

Unlike here, It's al about Cash out imo,.

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53 minutes ago, NickyLove said:

Well this is more a desperate attempt to win players. More and more people are leaving and not returning because the developers are not concerned about the wishes that people have had here for many years and have also made known on the forum. I myself will give it up in June, I am done with it

Maybe a lot of players leaving, I don't know, but online of the game does not getting lower overall. Probably even getting bigger, slowly. Things are not that bad actually. 

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personaly i dont care about this refferal system 

I care that 3dxchat needs a big advertizing ''Gun'' and that Gun is Pose editor :) 

imagine the advertizing capabiities of the pose editor in daily basis it simply will bring tons of ppl in the game even those that 3dxchat might have lost .

its the only big update could happen in 3dxchat nothing else could concidered big game changing update :) 

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25 minutes ago, Aliviax said:

personaly i dont care about this refferal system 

I care that 3dxchat needs a big advertizing ''Gun'' and that Gun is Pose editor :) 

imagine the advertizing capabiities of the pose editor in daily basis it simply will bring tons of ppl in the game even those that 3dxchat might have lost .

its the only big update could happen in 3dxchat nothing else could concidered big game changing update :) 

Keep dreaming Alivia !

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16 hours ago, Xizl said:

 

Lol are you serious guys? 50%? 

10 bucks for first monthly referal yes. Not $10 every month. 

Annual and semi annual may need to be handled differently for sure.

All Gizmo would need to do is to  create a linked banner webmasters could ad to their websites.  Someone clicks on it and signs up - you get a payday.

Rather cheap form of advertising for them. People not interested in the game don't care about game time, they want cold hard cash. Gametime doesn't pay webmaster costs.

 

 

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