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What Keeps 3DXChat From Catching Up To Older Worlds User Bases?


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What does anyone think?

 

It's NOT:

  • Aesthetics/Graphics - it is very crisp and vibrant
  • Load Times Between Jumps - load times are lightning fast
  • Properties - There is plenty of room and you can build on Three at once.
  • Upgrades - They keep it as close to newest versions they can
  • Cost - It's the least expensive VR world when paid semi annually or annually with huge properties.
  • Devs are totally indifferent to user wants.
  • Uptime - Game rarely crashes compared to older worlds
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18 hours ago, Ross said:

 One of the reasons ive seen from speaking to people in other games is the reputation 3dx has for most of the girls in game being guys . i cannot tell you how many people have told me they wont play due to that. Male and females have told me the same exact thing when i bring up 3dx...

That's interesting.  A couple obvious questions, and one obvious statement:

- What other games, would you share a couple example titles?

- How can you tell that most of the girls are guys?

And the obvious statement, isn't "most of the girls in game being guys" basically true of most of the internet?  At least the seedy / sex driven parts?

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I think there are a few things keeping 3DX from replacing those other games. First of all most of them are social games that have sex. 3DX is really the other way around. Take second life or even IMVU 3DX is just not at that level of customization and things to do right now. 3DX just isn't really a competitor for them. The subscription and no demo is likely the biggest reason though. Its kind of a bit much to ask $20 for a month's of play for what really is kind of an unknow to a lot of people. All of its competitors are free to play so that doesn't help either.  I have looked a bit and one of the questions I have heard come up about 3DX is asking if its a scam. I am sure the forum doesn't exactly help either when people come and see some of the threads. Really though there are plenty of people here its a quite adequately sized community and I like that its not huge.

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The answer to everything is : Game needs more character customization -clothes n fashion, then more Girls will play this Game 

women  care more about fashion n clothes and accesories /shoes etc thats why more girls play second life for example!

girls dont wanna run arround with same dress lol and on the other hand most (not all ) of the men here dont even care about clothes .

It comes down to this and its realy simple : you want more females in Game ? Give them clothes -fashion -accesories ❤️ 

That simple 

Tho 3dxchat has a 6k population , if the game dont carter the female needs  ,females will leave  if they leave more men will leave.

enjoy :)

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4 hours ago, Aliviax said:

on the other hand most (not all ) of the men here dont even care about clothes .

 

So after representing the dev team, after representing all women, you now represent all men?

Actually people are joining 3dx for sex, and they get what they want, but after some times, sex alone gets boring. If you dont build a group of friends or a relationship, then you just end up doing same stuff and finally stops.  Clothes and customization would be a plus, but the real issue is that 3dx is too limited in term of activities. Sex. talk, dance. I dont speak about building in world editor, cos not everyone does it.

Some already suggested to add minigames. Yeah I know we can play volley-ball already, put is just spamming space bar.

 

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8 minutes ago, Torax said:

So after representing the dev team, after representing all women, you now represent all men?

Actually people are joining 3dx for sex, and they get what they want, but after some times, sex alone gets boring. If you dont build a group of friends or a relationship, then you just end up doing same stuff and finally stops.  Clothes and customization would be a plus, but the real issue is that 3dx is too limited in term of activities. Sex. talk, dance. I dont speak about building in world editor, cos not everyone does it.

Some already suggested to add minigames. Yeah I know we can play volley-ball already, put is just spamming space bar.

 

Do i have to represent a group to state my opinion ? Lol ofc not 

Also i dont realy understand ur reason behind ur quote when i have written a whole paragraph about game needs more character customization clothes accesories n fashion lol why not quote that ? maybe cause u agree with what i say :P but u dont wanna admit it haha :)

anyway i agree that game needs few mini games to ad in the sicial aspect i had propose a casino for fun .

But most important that game needs is more female clothes character customization for more unique looks accesories fashion in general .

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I have no issue to say when I agree with you. Unfortunately that doesnt happen often. 

You state that the main issue is character customization and more clothes and stuff for women will bring 6k players. 

I believe that more character customization would be good but that the real issue of 3dx is the lack of activities.

 

We had dice roll with the dll, spin the bottle is also implemented but not available for rooms. Just 2 little examples of what can help peeps spend more time in game.

 

What is the point to customization your avi for 30 min if then you have nothing to do out of changing room?

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1 hour ago, Torax said:

What is the point to customization your avi for 30 min if then you have nothing to do out of changing room?

Well you also can fuck... and dance... and chat... and... well, that's all :lol:

Btw, about dancing – it would be great to add some dance minigame/minigames inside if it is possible. I mean, we could really "play" when we dance, not just choose one of the few animations. It would be also cool to add a manual speed control, like in MnF club, when you can actually control every thrust speed. For example here the video:

https://rt.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5ca44ea937e4d

Girl in this action actually controls every sucking motion. Would be great to have such an option in 3dx chat. More interactivity – to both sex and dances. And minigames. But I afraid it will never happen or even if it will – not soon for sure, it seems like a lot of work and devs currently already busy with poses editor and clothes/hairs system, at least as far as I know from the forum. 

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On 10/18/2019 at 2:25 AM, Ross said:

 One of the reasons ive seen from speaking to people in other games is the reputation 3dx has for most of the girls in game being guys . i cannot tell you how many people have told me they wont play due to that. Male and females have told me the same exact thing when i bring up 3dx.  

Not to mention the lack of character customization and just the lack of options in terms of doing anything besides fucking . 

 

Keep in mind most of the people i talk to are heterosexual so that may have alot to do with what i hear from people as to why they wont play 

 

Well. Just tell your friend to avoid cold room and futa room 😂

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9 minutes ago, Nilsu said:

Can't believe there would be a time that i had the same opinion with alivia. lol. Still yes, Customization, clothes, this goes into customing but tattoos, rings, body accesorries. Game is lacking in those departments too much. Heck i don't want to walk like i have heels on allways 😛

I suppose everyone agrees that 3dxchat needs more customization, including not only the quantity of current outfits or faces, but actually more ways to customize – like the ability to change lips/nose/eyes/face frame separately, piercings, tattoos, new jewelry. But the question is – is this really a main or a single reason why 3dxchat have low population?

Social activities is a very important thing too. And currently we have a very poor amount of ways how we can spend our time in 3dxchat besides of casually talking, dancing, checking other's rooms and fucking. Building? Well for some of us it's sure a great way to spend a time, but definitely not for all. Playing beach volleyball? Well, no commentary here lol, everyone who "played" it will understand what I mean.  Playing bottle? Okay, but why we can do it only in the SIn or on the Yacht, why it can't be in the user made rooms? Even user made games now wasted without dice roll command. 3dxchat needs to be more social if it wants social games user bases to come. It should provide players the opportunity to jsut hang out with a friends and spend a good, casual time, not just fucking. Of course if the devs wants the social games player base.

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2 hours ago, Xizl said:

Playing bottle? Okay, but why we can do it only in the SIn or on the Yacht, why it can't be in the user made rooms? .

Most likely if they give it to rooms there won't be people around those public zones much. Just take a look at saloon. Awesome place but full empty.

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I stopped playing after 1 month of trying the game years ago. I just couldn't stand it. Sex is a simple 2-5 second loop with sound effects of someone unclogging a toilet with no variation in moans. There's also nothing to do outside of sex. Especially back then. Now there's the world tool but its too complex and not user friendly for most people. Therefore that means there's still only sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex. We need other things to do. The game is too sex focused when people want something else to do. Also the customization has expanded a bit but still needs more. Especially non high heel shoes for women, I hate how they all walk around in high heel shoes/boots/flip flops. Also something I still haven't see yet requested years ago still not in game is creampies. Not all girls want jizz in their eyeballs just because Asa Akira does it boys. Ugh!

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Based on older worlds, I think Events and an economy - even a token economy is needed. Many enjoy the fantasy of running a business they never will run in RL. Making clothing, layouts, being paid DJ if your good enough. Those into the fantasy of being an escort want the fantasy of being paid. The silly gifts being used now is a prime exa.ple of this desire.

 

Events are also important. Walking through a professionally made haunted house, with trap doors and perils, during easter, an easter egg hunt on an officially made area with small prizes, snowball fights in the winter, this and much more has been done in some of the older worlds and continues to be looked forward too by many.

 

RLC, was based off the sex district Red Light in Amsterdam. It started off as a pure sex game and evolved into a more social sex game over a decade. 

 

Every sex game eventually evolves into a social game over time.

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26 minutes ago, THX said:

The silly gifts being used now is a prime exa.ple of this desire.

Yeah. But when it will be not a silly gift, but some game currency that can be spent on clothes/poses/rooms – you will see a lot of girls selling themselves not because of fantasy of being an escort, but simply because out of desire to earn some currency to buy themselves a new sexy dress. It will be significantly more paid love and less free love in the 3dxchat after this, I can guarantee it. Of course if we talk about some currency that can be spent on cool stuff, not about current xgold that can be spent only on gifts, advertising and gallery's slots.

31 minutes ago, THX said:

Every sex game eventually evolves into a social game over time.

I would not be so confident with a word "every". I tried Achat around a year ago, quite an old game, maybe even older than 3dxchat or at least around the same age. Yet, it's social aspect was rubbish, even compared to 3dxchat's one. And yeah, it also have tons of hookers (I don't mean that these things connected tho xD) because you can whore yourself out for a currency that can be used to buy everything. 

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On 10/18/2019 at 10:43 PM, Aliviax said:

The answer to everything is : Game needs more character customization -clothes n fashion, then more Girls will play this Game 

women  care more about fashion n clothes and accesories /shoes etc thats why more girls play second life for example!

girls dont wanna run arround with same dress lol and on the other hand most (not all ) of the men here dont even care about clothes .

It comes down to this and its realy simple : you want more females in Game ? Give them clothes -fashion -accesories ❤️ 

That simple 

Tho 3dxchat has a 6k population , if the game dont carter the female needs  ,females will leave  if they leave more men will leave.

enjoy :)

It's nice to have clothes but that don't make the woman.  Men deserve to have more clothes as well, they seem to get far less than women do on here.  How can you say that men don't care about clothes, have you not looked at threads where men have posted on there they want more clothes.

This game doesn't need to just cater to women, it needs to cater to both men and women.

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11 hours ago, Xizl said:

Yeah. But when it will be not a silly gift, but some game currency that can be spent on clothes/poses/rooms – you will see a lot of girls selling themselves not because of fantasy of being an escort, but simply because out of desire to earn some currency to buy themselves a new sexy dress. It will be significantly more paid love and less free love in the 3dxchat 

 

Let them sell their selfs lol who cares its their right to sell them selfs what i know for sure is that it will bring more subscriptions to the game, the money will flow :P when the money flows we have a healthy Game ,healthy Game means good game for everyone overall.

Also as THX mentioned in many other Games djs get tips (money) they dj from one place to another making their fantasy come true and earn some $$ same applies with club owners fantasy to run a club they dont run in real life . same applies with escort clubs- escort girls . they have the oportunities to live their whatever fantasies -same applies with various creators for clothes accesories u name it...they make stuff...they get paid ...players get cool stuff ..its a constant give n take n all are happy :)in the end .

Let those that wanna spend to spend (freedom ) dont wanna spend ? cool dont spend but dont hold other back :) that Do wanna spend :P 

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11 hours ago, Ross said:

As far as the sex players leaving 3dx, thats also not true . as far as rooms currently 3 of the top 4 populated are sex rooms with the one being most packed having 76 folks in it.  Called sluts want to be used.  

The death of the fuck rooms is wildly exaggerated

 

As far as micro economy, guess what the games who have that have in common?  Times up, i will tell you, they are dead or on life support. Thats prob the reason folks are looking for a new game to make inferior objects to milk people of his or her cash .

 

Rant over, you can lead a avi to facts but you cant make him wise . hagn

Actually, the facts dispute your claim on many levels.

First off, RLC and Second life are the biggest platforms of all. RLC has 8 franchises throughout the world alone, and we all know how big Second Life is.  They both have economies. . Both have user bases that exceed 1 million. 

As for Sluts Wanna Be Used. Sure, it is the current flavor. It is more dance room with a shocker name attached to it to get a draw. A common marketing practice that is often effective. One we have all seen used over the years time and time again. There is more standing around and dancing throughout the game now than there was years ago by far.

The point isn't so much who attracts the most fish from a little pool, but attracting fish from other ponds to  yours.

 

Sure, it can be debated what may make a place more attractive, but I think most can agree there are things that could be done to make it more attractive and increase retention. The. 250 users per hour average after 5 years stands in stark contrast to older worlds who's numbers exceeded 5000 an hour average comparatively.. Even old RLC with it's outdated look averages around 700 per hour still and after 10 years people are still there.

 

Alivia, it isn't easy to create the backend for micro transfers, let alone real money transfers cause of security issues in Unity. It took Utherverse nearly 4 years to do it in their first Unity attempt for Curio and that project after 7 years seems to be dead. Maybe it would be easier if it was a token economy that just involved xGold...I dunno.

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On 10/20/2019 at 9:49 PM, THX said:

Based on older worlds, I think Events and an economy - even a token economy is needed. Many enjoy the fantasy of running a business they never will run in RL. Making clothing, layouts, being paid DJ if your good enough. Those into the fantasy of being an escort want the fantasy of being paid. The silly gifts being used now is a prime exa.ple of this desire.

The lack of this micro-economy is the very reason I prefer this world to the other ones I know (RLC, AChat, SL).

I would not mind, if I would be able to buy someone  a bootle of beer or a glass of champagne in-game, however.
But the money has stay in game, like with the beverages! Don't give the player anything more like a "badge" like the list of received gifts snow, or a gold counter as described below.

For escorts, please use the dollar-bundle-gift option. It is not a silly idea, it is actually a quite bright idea!
Maybe they should add animations for this.
Throwing some money on the stage/pole dancer, which costs a few game-gold or an animation for money exchange when doing the slow dance representing the exchange for escorts, which also costs some amout of game-gold.
You could implement a counter how much game gold a player earned through (pole) dancing and escorting.

There will be (some to many) women who want to live out an escort fantasy and not make an actual virtual escort business.
Tensions will arise between people who want to make/assist their living online and people, also women, who just want to spend an easy pastime.

Builders, designers and such can give their stuff to the community for free or keep their stuff for themselves, no problem.

This "micro-economy" is what  - in my not so humble opinion - to a great extent contributed to the formation of toxic social environments, which can be experienced in the "older worlds".
All the shenanigans and drama which you experience here are nothing compared to the amount of bullshittery going on in the so-called older worlds.

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For me it was lack of customization and overall boredom with the game. I did enjoy SL at one point. I preferred their graphics and animations. If you’re willing to spend your avi can look top notch. But that’s boring too and unless you have a gaming laptop, pretty laggy.

 

the funny thing is, people here complain about men playing as women. There it’s women playing as men. When I played I found it weird to have to ask that question because my game play started here.

 

3DX has been around too long to have such poor options for customization. Then when new items are added they do not look good. The Afro for example.

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