SammyRay Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) During game developing, I suggested Manual Override stuff... There are 2 self-defense options to kick those bullies, trolls or party banger as followings; 1.Scare & show them that you're hard & tough player. 2. The End conversation, Like this.... Thanks to Natalie Portman, she's a badass Β Edited September 4, 2019 by Sammy βπΌπ©β§ and DJMikeBurleigh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMikeBurleigh Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 hours ago, chloe said: Yes, I am pretty sure there is no exploit. And if you want to have an explanation how this technical works, so maybe ask instead of spread panic. How ignore works: Player A sends command to server: ignore Player B. And Player B as well as the messages get no longer rendered. Player B gets info Player A did ignored so Player A and all his messages get no longer rendered. Next time Player A and Player B login again both get the info A ignored B so the game knows not to render anything from B and vice versa. How a kick would works (from room owner or a moderator): Player A sends command to server: kick Player B out of the room I am owner or moderator. Player B gets the info he/she was kicked. The game will than move him to the wardrobe and displays a message what happend. Maybe a timer prevent Player B from rejoining. This could be implemented on different ways and is up to Gizmo. In both cases all is needed is the Character ID.Β What this all has to do with room steeling is by the way a miracle for me. absolutely,and if possible if kicked from room...ignore should automatically be applied. because if i kick from my room it won't be a mistake it will clearly be they did not follow rules..i am very easy to get along with , and like everyone else i want people to come and enjoy my rooms...just don't cause trouble Leeloo and SusanLouisa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torax Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 In World of Warcrat, there was a time, if you wanted to kick someone from a raid or group, you needed to make a vote pass. Ofc this cant be in 3dx but maybe like for reports, 2 or 3 requests should be sent before someone is kicked. I wouldnt go for automatic ignore but temporary ban from the room. Sometimes newbies do mistakes too. Leeloo, Xizi and SusanLouisa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloe Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 This should be in the hand of room owners.Β Also I would not auto ignore somebody, bit this could be an option, like Kick and ignore user. Xizi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torax Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Yes like it could be only initiated by room owner but upvoted by 2 persons? This would be just to avoid abusive kick as well.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Β I would think getting upvotes would only attract attention to the drama being created in the room.Β The room owner knows the rules for his rooms and if he receives a pm in the room backed by proof of the offense this should be enough.Β However, it is possible to have different levels.Β I have been on games where first boot is temporary with a 15 minute limit and the second results in permanent ban.Β This way the person being booted is given a second chance to behave themselves accordingly. Vaughan_Rarius, βπΌπ©β§ and moondance 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torax Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Yes temporary ban and then permanent sounds good to me. And would it be only for this session or forever. Like the owner reopens a room one week after, still banned right? SusanLouisa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) Yes, permanent unless the room owner decided to lift it.Β I would hope the names of the banned would show on their ignore list. Edited September 4, 2019 by SusanLouisa Vaughan_Rarius, Xizi and THX 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) Personally I have a rule that after a bit of time and I can't remember why they were ignored in first place I remove them, but that is my own way of managing it.Β Those who are memorable remain hahaha Edited September 4, 2019 by SusanLouisa Vaughan_Rarius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Personally, I think kick should be separate from ban. It's like a lesser level. Sometimes all you need to do is boot someones ass out to get the message across and don't need a full ban/ignore yet.Β I also think you should be able to add names to a ban list without having to wait for them to come in.Β If you don't like someone add their name to a list that are banned from entering your room.Β The ability to add someones name to the regular ignore system should also be possible. I must admit I am confused why anyone would even try to make an argument against being able to moderate your room as they see fit. The only weak link I can see to any of this room moderation is World Chat. The drama is guaranteed to spill over into it. Gizmo is going to have quite the dilemma to solve with World Chat.Β Alliehotass, SusanLouisa and Xizi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torax Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 You would need to be able to manually enter names in your list theΒ orΒ kind of a sort of search engine to find people you wanna ban. To be honest if lΒ dont want someone in my room from scratch, ignore it. As per now my ignore list is empty though.Β From all what is proposed so far, the temporary kick first and then permaban (not ignore) rule is the best. Gizmo and SusanLouisa 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Our Ignore list would only come into play when a player qualified for complete ban.Β I still support both temporary and complete/permanent ban and it is only at that point the person booted would make our ignore list.Β Having to manage two ignore lists would get a bit confusing and I imagine would take up room on server.Β Having said that however, which ever needs to happen in order to make this boot feature an option is fine by me really.Β I know how I'd like it to work but I will take what we can get gladly. Vaughan_Rarius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeloo Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) Don't know if i missed some posts due to the "first unread post" option missing, but i think something like in second life would be good. There, if you bootΒ someone from a place, he/she can't come back in before 30 minutes passed. I don't know if it would be doable in 3DX though Edited September 4, 2019 by Leeloo SusanLouisa and Xizi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Yes, Leeloo, that is what I am suggesting too, however on imvu the room owner has choice of temporary for 15 minutes, or permanent.Β This way the room owner has option of giving second chances or, if not deserved based on the behavior, a permanent ban. Leeloo, Vaughan_Rarius and Xizi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 hours ago, DJMikeBurleigh said: and if possible if kicked from room...ignore should automatically be applied No. Kick, ban and ignore - all should be separate options. I mean - ofc it's fine if someone want to use it together and it's good if it will be some combined options for ones who want to use it, but there should be theΒ way to use is separately too!Β I sometime would want to just kick person and temporaryΒ ban them from the room instead of putting them in iggy list. Leeloo, βπΌπ©β§, Gizmo and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 With the way the game is now one needs to be on ignore list to not be able to get back into the room.Β So unless the whole process is redone the ignore has to be used.Β Right now we room owners use a process called "Taking out the garbage".Β Room owner clicks on person to be booted and puts them on ignore.Β Another person in room colds the person being banned by inviting them to their apartment, as soon as they load outside of public room the person who has done the inviting poofs and returns to the public room with the banned person unable to return.Β It works but involves the ignore button and a second person.Β After a time that name can be manually removed from ignore list by the room owner or not. Stellania, HazyRays, Derai and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloe Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, SusanLouisa said: With the way the game is now one needs to be on ignore list to not be able to get back into the room.Β So unless the whole process is redone the ignore has to be used.Β Right now we room owners use a process called "Taking out the garbage".Β Room owner clicks on person to be booted and puts them on ignore.Β Another person in room colds the person being banned by inviting them to their apartment, as soon as they load outside of public room the person who has done the inviting poofs and returns to the public room with the banned person unable to return.Β It works but involves the ignore button and a second person.Β After a time that name can be manually removed from ignore list by the room owner or not. Nice trick Leeloo, SusanLouisa and Alliehotass 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, chloe said: Nice trick I'd like to take the credit for it but it's been in play a long time.Β We do what we have to do in order to keep the peace.Β Vaughan_Rarius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliehotass Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) Yips that technique is old. Back in 17 we were doing that,Β also fo a lil extra flave try tha old ALT F4 extra Gold deal. Most noobs crave da Treasure and ive successfully erased a number with da lure of Gold, get ya free Gold quick Nooby, ALT F4 to get eets AND POOF!Β Β wif da ignore in place from tha Hoster dat suckA is on poyminant VacationΒ BonvoyageΒ Edited September 4, 2019 by Alliehotass SusanLouisa and Xizi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeloo Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 didn't understand allie's trick, someone has an allie translator ? Alliehotass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) I just decided to make a graphical representation of what I was thinking with drop down menus to reduce screen clutter. Β Edited September 5, 2019 by THX DJMikeBurleigh and SusanLouisa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeronicaLee Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 19 hours ago, chloe said: Nice trick WeΒ use that trick in ourΒ clubs too and it is oneΒ wayΒ of handling griefers, however I cant see whyΒ weΒ cant simply boot aΒ griefer while he's thereΒ as you can in other game.Β Β Some of the griefers are wise to this move and won't take the bait, then yourΒ stuckΒ with them moondance, DJMikeBurleigh and SusanLouisa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesnake Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 The room banning will be weaponized, especially if it is permanent. Just wait until players competing for social statusΒ (DJs, room builders, whatever) start banning each other. Egos and passions can flare like that. There is already the ignore option, which works just fine. If I create a map for "no sex" and I see someone ruining my distopia by means of boning I just ignore them and BAM!, distopia restored. Also, privacy has nothing to do with the ban, basically the game forbids your AVI to access a map, and it doesn't need to log your e-mail, your social security number and your DNA to do that. Privacy will be just fine. DJMikeBurleigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WetLori Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I think this is a much-needed feature. As others have said, it is up to each Room Host to decide what behavior they allow in their rooms. We already have this in a way with the ability to do Group or Friend-only based room-sharing, right?Β Β One thing I would LOVE to see this is: Have text stored in a file or somewhere in the game client which, if it exists, could be automatically displayed as a PM from the Room Host to each new user when they enter a room. YouΒ could also display thisΒ in the Local Chat Window but only for each user as they enter, not for everyone already in the room as it would clog up Local Chat.Β This could be used to automatically welcome the person to the room and display any special room instructons or rules. This takes a lot of burden off of the Room Host also. Xizi and Twiggy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondance Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 It would be nice if kick and ignore were separate , but i also appreciate that it may be much more simple to use the existing ignore as part of any new kick function.Β Either way, room owners who want to start using it aggressively would in the long run be hurting themselves.Β Leeloo, Aliviax, Twiggy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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