Ginevra Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I've voted for YES, honestly i don't see anything of wrong in the possibility to send a certain amount of money to others, if whoring is what u're fearing... well it's already happening, just with gifts, so at least being xgold more useful than gifts, just let us share it with others, could be for many aims, from offering a name change to offer missing money for a marriage proposal, just bring it back. βπΌπ©β§ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopardus Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Personally I have no moral objection to prostitution. Actually my concern is less that prostitution might increase as it is that non-paid based opportunities might decrease. Subtle difference in perspective. True, I don't know that the ability to exchange xgold will make much difference, but I am concerned about the risk that it might do so.Β I'd also like to add a different perspective to the points made in this thread about the fantasy of paid sex. Sure, for many the idea of paid sex is a fantasy that can be explored in a place like 3DX. I have nothing against that. But here is the different perspective about fantasies...for some (maybe many) paid sex is actually the REAL LIFE option, not the fantasy. This might be for many reasons such as busy lives, lack of partner, lack of confidence, age, disability, etc. Studies and research supports this with reports such as 15% of UK men and 20% of US men having engaged with paid sex encounters. For some (maybe many) the fantasy is NON-paid sex with a truly gorgeous partner and to be accepted for who they are, which is not easily possible for them in real life. 3DX provides an opportunity to live out that fantasy...the fantasy of NOT paying to experience the company of a gorgeous person.Β People here talk about fantasies as being a good thing (I agree) and some then put forward the point that more prostitution or exchanging xgold in paid sex situation will enhance those fantasy opportunities. I agree, it will. But let's not forget that for others the very same thing would make 3DX more like real life and potentially reduces the opportunities for them to experience their fantasy - that of NON-paid sex.Β Disclaimer: any similarity in the above message to any person is entirely coincidental and unintended. Bull, βπΌπ©β§, Xizi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 Personally I have no moral objection to prostitution. Actually my concern is less that prostitution might increase as it is that non-paid based opportunities might decrease. Subtle difference in perspective. True, I don't know that the ability to exchange xgold will make much difference, but I am concerned about the risk that it might do so.Β I'd also like to add a different perspective to the points made in this thread about the fantasy of paid sex. Sure, for many the idea of paid sex is a fantasy that can be explored in a place like 3DX. I have nothing against that. But here is the different perspective about fantasies...for some (maybe many) paid sex is actually the REAL LIFE option, not the fantasy. This might be for many reasons such as busy lives, lack of partner, lack of confidence, age, disability, etc. Studies and research supports this with reports such as 15% of UK men and 20% of US men having engaged with paid sex encounters. For some (maybe many) the fantasy is NON-paid sex with a truly gorgeous partner and to be accepted for who they are, which is not easily possible for them in real life. 3DX provides an opportunity to live out that fantasy...the fantasy of NOT paying to experience the company of a gorgeous person.Β People here talk about fantasies as being a good thing (I agree) and some then put forward the point that more prostitution or exchanging xgold in paid sex situation will enhance those fantasy opportunities. I agree, it will. But let's not forget that for others the very same thing would make 3DX more like real life and potentially reduces the opportunities for them to experience their fantasy - that of NON-paid sex.Β Disclaimer: any similarity in the above message to any person is entirely coincidental and unintended. Don`t forget that your example is common and most of people having sex with partners without paying. I don`t know why their fantasies about it. Maybe they are prostitutes and they have too much sex for moneyΒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandorra Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Did anyone say about paying for rooms, poses, clothes. Wake up! You lost the main idea. Main idea about another thing.Β You'll be probably astonished how fast your main idea will go down the gutter, as soon as there's really something of value to gain.Β Β .... No ... No EconomyΒ Sign that! Bull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 You'll be probably astonished how fast your main idea will go down the gutter, as soon as there's really something of value to gain.Β Oh, how agressive. Why? Β Maybe you will really offer something valuable.Β Seems not everyone liked the idea to destroy the "pandora" that was a pain in the ass an year ago. Β Have a good weekend, Pandorra.Β Β I will add a little post scriptum:I did the poll because I want to see what people think about it. Yes, I want this for a good reason. Yes, a day for tests is not enough. I said a lot about it in posts at this poll. So any attacks will solve nothing,but adequate discussion. Keep it adequate please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandorra Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 No offense intended, sorry if it sounded this way.Β Nevertheless, the opportunity to get something makes people try to get it. And many things folks just enjoy doing, will become a matter of trading. Whatever you may think about role play will not be the final state. It will be only a matter of time until other services will become economy too. Like DJing, building and whatever you can imagine. Β I suppose it will not need much time, that's why I said you might be astonished, how fast. In fact nothing to take personal. I did not say, you make things go down the gutter, did I?Β However, I have not the slightest doubts, it will spoil the game. If you have other convictions, fair enough.Β Besides, your straw man is way too obvious. You don't like my nick name? Welcome, I don't care. I go by it since a very long time, so I have heard all the possible box jokes already way too often. Far longer than this "year ago" you refer to.Β A nice weekend for you too. Bull and βπΌπ©β§ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 No offense intended, sorry if it sounded this way.Β Nevertheless, the opportunity to get something makes people try to get it. And many things folks just enjoy doing, will become a matter of trading. Whatever you may think about role play will not be the final state. It will be only a matter of time until other services will become economy too. Like DJing, building and whatever you can imagine. Β I suppose it will not need much time, that's why I said you might be astonished, how fast. In fact nothing to take personal. I did not say, you make things go down the gutter, did I?Β However, I have not the slightest doubts, it will spoil the game. If you have other convictions, fair enough.Β Besides, your straw man is way too obvious. You don't like my nick name? Welcome, I don't care. I go by it since a very long time, so I have heard all the possible box jokes already way too often. Far longer than this "year ago" you refer to.Β A nice weekend for you too.Mmm, I thought your name was connected with that service. I glad it wasn`t. Thank you for your opinion and kindness. Pandorra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panCDCA Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Β Β Β Why I think it's not good?Β Because it will decrease the amount of money 3dx team gets. There are a lot of old players here with tons of xgold and they don't have anything to spend it on besides mostly useless gifts or terribly overpriced high-number gallery slots, overpriced so much - that some people prefer not spend their money at all, it's just stupid to pay around 100k for a one picture slot, even if you already have 2x times xgold more and have nothing to spend it on. It's still too overpriced to buy it. So if you will give this old players the opportunity to transfer their money - they can help other people, who otherwise maybe would buy this xgold. Less money for the devs can either result in decrease of speed/quality of development or increase in price of the subscription. Now the question - why the people who don't benefit from xgold transfer (who don't care about contests and events, don't have enough to help others, but have enough for themselves) should pay for other's fun or bear with other consequences of lowered income of the devs?Β Also, not good or bad thing (at least in my book) but you should know it - the ability to transfer xgold will drastically increase the extent of prostitution in the game. Because with the ability to get xgold from others - prostitution can actually be profitable. Now we have only the whores who doing it because it's their fantasy to be a whore. With xgold transfer and the ability to do an alt and earn money for a whole account - we will have tons of whores. A lot of which will be males pretending to be a girls btw. I am here not to judge and not much of a purist/moralist, and as I said - I don't think about this as a bad or good thing, but just be ready - it WILL happen if xgold will become transferable.Β Β Β With Ladyharen's opinion for prizes, which is a most excellent idea, to help some rooms and add more fun and socialization, I found your answer very interesting about the gallery pics and prostitution.Β The gallery pics are extremely overpriced, and I do believe if someone wants to add some to their own, that should be FREE or nominally (300, maybe 500) since it is their way to show who they are (to quote a song "Every Picture Tells a Story"). Now if you want to purchase for someone else, the prices should not be increasing like they do but more sane and the person buying should somehow be the only one able to see that slot if they so choose.Β Β Prostitution, is something else. Yes, a lot of them are men and I refuse to partake (not saying I never have) because I don't pay for it in RL and have no desire to here. I would rather give a gift because it comes from my heart or was deserved. But that is and should be up to the person who wants those services. But again, that would beg the question what are they going to do with the gold?Β Β Anyway, I voted yes.Β Β βπΌπ©β§ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 "60 members have voted". More than half for the gold transfer between 3dxchat members. @GizmoΒ maybe this is time for another test. It was a good idea, but it wasn't tested enough. In my opinion, 1 month is enough for testing. Maybe this feature will bring something good to ourΒ community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 From what I have seen on other games it will bring paid prostitution. Vaughan_Rarius and Bull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 5/31/2019 at 8:31 PM, MikeyDee said: , using it to gift/donate xgold using my leaving scenario as example to pass on gold where it can be appreciated? Yeah sure why not. As for full on micro economics, not for me. With as many years you have been here I am sure your friend list is extensive.Β Send them all a gift or two.Β Certainly don't leave the coin unused......So glad though that you have decided to hang on for a bit longer. Β Vaughan_Rarius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, SusanLouisa said: From what I have seen on other games it will bring paid prostitution. It was first argument many years ago and here if you was reading this topic. It is not a problem because we already have paid prostitution in 3dxchat. Some part of community wants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondayy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 This is rather old topic as some have mentioned. Usually is by this subject often mentioned some kind of fear of prostitution in a sense, that prostitutes will take over 3DX world...Because I've been playing as an escort for aΒ long time and still do occasionally, I consider this fear from escort invasion (very) exaggerated. First of all, for majority of escorts that I have come across, is this just a role play and not a real business, many would probably continue to prefer Gifts and not xGold, forΒ vast majority of them is xGold completely useless, same as Gifts on the end. For me personally, xGold wouldnβt be useless since I do host but only occasionally a room, and exactly those people: people who often host rooms, Dj's, room designers..would profit from Gold sharing by far at most. And I think that's a good thing, that people can reward some cool room designers....with something at least partially useful. Probably this would contribute a lot to room diversity on top...which is badly needed in my opinion. Certainly few people would make escort alts to get xGold, but I doubt that this would be really a big number. AHT and βπΌπ©β§ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 it's all the responsibility of the users themselves. There,when it was started, was the original warning of the developers and so it happens everywhere in games . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) I don`t understand why people should bitching because of money transfer. If it`s legal,everything will be good. Just money as a gift. That was theΒ main idea. Edited October 31, 2019 by βπΌπ©β§ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Not profitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 11:31 AM, βπΌπ©β§ said: It was first argument many years ago and here if you was reading this topic. It is not a problem because we already have paid prostitution in 3dxchat. Some part of community wants it. Just because they want it does not make it legal.Β Perhaps the game does not wish to get caught up in that. If it was not an issue justΒ because, after all,Β its just a game there would not need to be an age of 18 years old. Exchanging for a gift they can look other way....exchanging for money is a completely other matter. Vaughan_Rarius, R0bT and panCDCA 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, βπΌπ©β§ said: Not profitable. If its not profitable then its not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, SusanLouisa said: Just because they want it does not make it legal.Β Perhaps the game does not wish to get caught up in that. If it was not an issue justΒ because, after all,Β its just a game there would not need to be an age of 18 years old. Exchanging for a gift they can look other way....exchanging for money is a completely other matter. You got me wrong. Because you didn`t read all topic. We didn`t say about real prostitution. Anyway, I don`t mind real prostitution. If people want, they will get it. In-game money transfer is cool idea to test. It is our own money, why the hell we can`t give them to friends or anyone else? Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, SusanLouisa said: If its not profitable then its not needed. No needed what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Also consider that this is a global game and the laws vary in the extreme from country to county.Β Porn is illegal in some countries.Β You think a country that has strict laws in this regard is going to give rights to 3DX if they allow prostitution?Β 3DX may even lose their rights in that country.Β There is much more to this question to just do you want it or no I don't want it. Vaughan_Rarius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, βπΌπ©β§ said: Not profitable. Β 1 minute ago, βπΌπ©β§ said: No needed what? I'm sorry I thought the topic was gold coin exchange. Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, SusanLouisa said: Also consider that this is a global game and the laws vary in the extreme from country to county.Β Porn is illegal in some countries.Β You think a country that has strict laws in this regard is going to give rights to 3DX if they allow prostitution?Β 3DX may even lose their rights in that country.Β There is much more to this question to just do you want it or no I don't want it. Civilized countries areΒ okay about it. I don`t know. Ask them. I think 3dx will nothing loose because of it. They should follow rules of their own country. It is how it works for every game. Btw, SL has this legally. Edited October 31, 2019 by βπΌπ©β§ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, βπΌπ©β§ said: You got me wrong. Because you didn`t read all topic Β I read enough of it and commented on it early on. Scroll up.Β All I am saying is there is more to this issue than just yes/no.Β It can end up being a huge legal fiasco.Β I know of a situation in another game where a chick who was 15 lied about her age and not only had sex with older guy got married and had kids. (Yes, some games have pregnancy and babies...smh)Β He was arrested and charged.Β My point is, that just because its a game does not mean that it does not open up legal issues for all involved and even if the game itself is not responsible they would still be caught up in the legal proceedings as far as providing evidence and possibly appearing in court.Β So those who want it can complain all they want, if the game does not wish to be involved in such things they are not going to take the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, SusanLouisa said: Β I'm sorry I thought the topic was gold coin exchange. Β Just transfer. It`s like if my friend is askingΒ me: - "Hey, can you give me 1000 Gold, i can`t wait our wedding" -"Ah, no problem, friend" panCDCA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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