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I'll share some secrets how to be one of recognized DJ there.
It's better than SoundCloud. Of course you're all not a Pro DJ.

Please correct me if I was wrong.
Cause I've never seen just one song you DJ here selling your creation there.
Even if me, cause I'm only an entertainer not DJ.

Some of my edit could be sold but I'm not living for DJ career.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now, Mixcloud invented hard quest as "Global Rank"
Whatever you've got ranking at the first place when you posted.

It was just a mirage...LOL
You must maintain your ranking until one week, that was hard.

:) :) :)

Trust me, I had first rank on "Dub" genre for 6 days, since I upload my latest set.
Last day I was demoted to 13th rank cause there were big DJs popped up in last minute.

And just chilly took my rank away in a blink....

If you're with Mixcloud stuff...there are some tips for you.
to be continued...

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There will never be a true and honest ranking of what is good or aint as long as people can buy plays and likes on platforms like theese.

 

I also learned plays or listens arent even individual ones. You just refresh the page and click on play again. Voila your play-count increased. Its retarded and shows nothing about skills or taste of music. It just shows how deep your pockets are or how many friends you can mobilize that really dont give a flying fuck about what you upload and just hit that like-button without even playing the mix.

 

Thats what it is all about on Mixcloud.

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There will never be a true and honest ranking of what is good or aint as long as people can buy plays and likes on platforms like theese.

 

I also learned plays or listens arent even individual ones. You just refresh the page and click on play again. Voila your play-count increased. Its retarded and shows nothing about skills or taste of music. It just shows how deep your pockets are or how many friends you can mobilize that really dont give a flying fuck about what you upload and just hit that like-button without even playing the mix.

 

Thats what it is all about on Mixcloud.

Dear Nikki,

 

I knew that you were the first pioneer of Mixcloud member who posted your creations there.

I followed your steps and learned how to do and deal with it.

I did it almost 3 years; never given up but you did.

 

I knew what do you mean about cheating number of listeners.

It was an old story and not working at all today.

 

Mixcloud had changed their policies of Ranking Chart by counting listening time of each set.

Instead of listening numbers; 2 years ago.

 

Even worse, everyone who posted their set on Mixcloud must be maintain their rank for one week.

Since Day 1 on their entry challenge which I mentioned on first post.

Or got no ranking like the past. It started this year.

 

:) :) :)

 

Now, it becomes harder cause Mixcloud raised Pro Option charge.

From 50 USD one time charge to 135 USD per year with same privileged access.

 

What I would like to share how to be one of recognized there.

I feel like I owed our friends here who taught me how to create EDM my own way.

There are about 10 tips without paying expensive Pro Option too.

 

Cheers,

 

:) :) :)

 

Following link is overall popular ranking, just little Music Genre but I could beat big DJ there too.

Truth has never lied.

https://www.mixcloud.com/discover/progressive-electro-house/?order=popular

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10 Tips of being ready for Mixcloud

1. What is your best for? Just ask yourself what is your best for listeners there. You must present the best of you, not just a fashion music.

If you were the best with Classical Rock, Decade of Pop Music and etc. Please do it.

Don't upload music content that you don't know shit.

2. Build your own basic fans, Apple Computer started at garage as we knew, we're not famous DJ too.

Your closed friends, relatives who love same kind of your music creation will be your best supporter in the begining.

3. Audio quality is crucial subject for Mixcloud Listerners.

I don't have to tell where I collected my song collection, I spent a lot of money to get them, to be honest.

Bandcamp, Monstercat and other Indy Recording companies that provided at least FLAC files are the good start.

Beware of illegal website, sometimes FLAC file was created by 128 Kbps Mp3, use your ears. Shit quality in = Shit Quality out.

4. Music knowledges? Yes, you need before presenting your creation to public.

Nobody wants to spend happy time with boring music streaming, for sure.

I don't want to talk about boring DJ Theories and don't want to raise the topic of Beat grid, Beat Match.

Or even Camelot Wheel for non-musician DJ this time.

 

Please check and recheck your set before publishing to public.

The rest  will be listener's judgement, not yours.

5. Seeking for Mixcloud Supporter? This is what you need to get more growing up.

There are tons of DJ there. Some of them do tricky by creating Auto Script of being your follower.

Most of them are Radio Stations and halfway of climber Pro DJ.

Once you follow back. You'll be their slave forever and they will shove their streaming without any thank you at all.

Try once, if they scratch your back and you do the same way. It will be good start in the long run. Win-win situation.

to be continued.

 

:) :) :)

 

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Continued of Part 2...

 

6. Start your creation with less competitors by seeking your matched music Genre you created. Like "Classical Rock", "Community Radio", "EDM Party Mix" or etc.

If there were less Famous or Popular Social DJ, you'll be safe. Don't start with hashtag like "Trance", "EDM" or any main of Mixcloud genre library.

Otherwise, you'll work overtime and will never get recognized by Mixclould Public Listeners.

I did some different Music Genre too. Like "Rockhound" classical rock mix, some of Goa Psy-Trance with I did well cause I have some background of Music Knowledge.

Don't jump to the bigger arena if you were not ready.

 

Note: There were Pro & Selected DJs who purchased Mixcloud's express way on "Community Radio"atm.

Quite hard to beat them. Avoid to use hashtag # community radio for awhile.

7. Mixcloud Rules & Regulations had been changed. I became Pro Member by paying 50 USD one time since 2015.

Sad news in FEB, 2019 was they changed Pro Subscription to 135 USD per year and having same privileged access.

I decided not going any more. Not working with any amature like me or climbing DJ career at all.

The best thing I've learned is entire of Re post, Favorite will be less count if compared with listening minutes for each of Mix set.

Cheater actions were eliminated.

8. Your set is either your sapling plant or baby that has just born, it need your extreme intensive care for one week.

Using your Social Media channels you have like your Facebook, Twitter, Google+ and etc.

Let your friends or your followers being informed.

 

I once was careless and let everything go like I did before.

My Dubstep ranking was dropped from 2nd to 24th, in the end.

Cause I couldn't compete with incoming big name DJs and Mixcloud STAT fooled me too.

Until final rank was revealed.

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

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Update: Latest update from Mixcloud about Local & Global ranking.

After 20 APR 2019 Mixcloud made both of Local & Global Ranking. Please see as followings;

 

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My latest mix set reached 1st Rank on "Progressive Electro House" and "Bass" at the same time. :D  :D  :D 

But wait if you checked detail of each. You'll find the different of my ranking.

 

I reached 1st Rank of Global Ranking on "Progressive Electro House"

 

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But look at this "Bass" was just only 1st Rank on Local (Thailand) only.

 

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Don't let Mixcloud fool you :D :D :D

9. Do not expect your 3DXChat fans to follow you at Mixcloud, it's totally SEX game and nobody cares except serious Music Lovers like some of us.

New players are even worse. They're coming with lust and don't care about Music Quality at all, just playing to fill up their need.

Some of them 're trying to be well known by doing silly troll post or mischief other players.

Like naming themselves as DJ including with cheering posts in 3DXChat forum too. WTF?

10. I'm looking forwarding to hearing your creations there. I believe that you'll be the bigger and the better than me.

Keep trying, don't quit. Good Luck.
 

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My last tip for you guys...

It's a bit tricky to upload your mix set through any free Public Audio or DJ streaming website.

We can create the greatest set our own with +3db of you final set.

Like I always do for my mastering set and playing with max at my own Radio Server.

 

BUT...if you shared your set on Public website.

You must beware of LUFS (Loudness Units relative to Full Scale) according to ITU standard.

 

It was designed to avoid “loudness wars,”

where everyone wants THE LOUDEST POSSIBLE RECORDING,

 

To avoid any crazy of collateral damages.

Like distortion, listener fatigue, and no dynamic range.

 

Public Digital Music Website like iTunes, YouTube, Soundcloud, Mixcloud or Spotify and etc.

They have their limit of LUFS their own. as followings;

 

Apple Music  = -16 LUFS

YouTube        = -13 LUFS

Spotify           = -14 LUFS

Tidal              = -14 LUFS

Soundcloud =  N/A (changed from time to time)

Mixcloud      = -13 LUFS

 

Note: This was latest INFO; first week of MAY 2019.

Some public Streaming Web services may change their policies at any time.

 

Almost of DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) has LUFS analyzer such as:

Stienberg Cubase, Presonus Studio Pro, Magix Samplitude, Isotope Insight.

Or Reaper with free SWS option.

 

Those analyzer will help you to turn down your volume to match website requirement.

If you posted more than max of LUFS, your set will be totally soften by their auto - normalize setting.

That means you're fucked :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Analyzer software for DJ console will cost around 40-60 USD.

but it will be useful for you. I used Platinum Note 4 software.

along with SWS extension for Reaper DAW.

 

Other goodies is Youlean Loudness Meter Pro, cost around 50 USD.

Very useful for finalized your set and post to public website without any head scratch.

 

Good Luck, DJs

:) :) :)

 

P.S. This is a good explanation of LUFS stuff.

 

 

And this is what I'm working with Reaper & Youlean Loundness Meter analyzer.

It was set to - 10.0 LUFS integrated but still having some momentary peak.

After rendering it, will be taken to Platinum Notes 4 to soften a bit.

 

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Useful link for Winamp user with Shout or Icecast Broadcast.

And Goodies audio converter to Audio Opus File Format

 

Today, website that provided Audio/Video Streaming service Audio CODEC (Coder/Decoder)

From the past FLAC, MP3, WMA, ALAC, Ogg Vorbis, AAC, AIFF or later M4a from Apple.

It is Opus format which is standardized by IETF (the Internet Engineering Task Force)

That implied technology from SKYPE and Xiph CODEC.

This Opus CODEC can handled widely Audio Application starts from VOIP (Voice over IP)..

To Live Music Performance. Details of Tech Specification please refer to following link.

 

http://opus-codec.org/

 

Unfortunately, Winamp doesn't support this Opus format but no problem.

Download from following website, it's automatically patch to your Winamp software :) :) :)

I'm not sure how long it will exist but 100%works with Winamp.

Automatically patch to software too.

 

http://bogproghome.hopto.org/downloadwinampopus.html

 

I also have goodies Free LameXP Audio Converter software from Any standard Audio Format to Opus format.

Or any formats that fit your requirement (available 9 compression format except M4a).

Which can be adjusted from Min to Max quality you need. Even increase/decrease your master volume, bass or treble.

In order to create your work and upload to Public Streaming Website you need.

 

I chose this software to convert my WAV file to Opus highest quality (CBR 510 Kbps).

Downloadable from follow link;

 

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lamexp/

 

I compared with M4a format & Opus by file size and audio quality.

Apple Encoder 16 Bit/192 Kbps/ CD Lossless m4a for 1 hour mix set took 458 MB storage.

Whilst Max Opus CBR 510 Kbps took 116 MB and have even better sound quality.

 

Good Luck DJs

 

:D :D :D

 

P.S. I'm not sure about OPUS format for Mixcloud upload.

but it works well on my CentovaCast Radio Station.

Better sound quality & space saving compare with M4a format.

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I also gave up on Mixcloud not because I care about numbers, I just have no time to maintain there too. For me personally it is more important to do live mixes anyway because this is the thrill for me. And not care about the record while I do so. If I also record I feel a higher pressure on each transition... sounds maybe stupid but it's true.

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Here is YouTube normalization today. Some of user uploaded with Audio Opus format as following screen capture

With option "Stat for Nerds" over video streaming.

 

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Check at Highlight I made...it read Volume/Normalization 100%/50% (Content Loudness 6.0 dB)

It means I turned on YouTube Streaming Volume to 100% (Of course, It not concerned on PC volume).

The streaming had been normalized down to 50% from original stream.

Second line is OPUS Audio CODEC @ VBR 251 Kbps (around half of MAX capability).

 

There was no original STAT of LUFS but I'm sure that it was over -14 LUFS.

:D :D :D

 

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About my short experience of Opus CODEC.

It was only good for upload to Public Steaming Service.

Opus Audio format will be favorite for them just a while.

When LUFS is the standard of Public Internet Media service today.

 

But if you own your Radio Server and presenting your set.

I have 2 Radio Servers, both of them run at 320 kbps MP3 broadcast.

(one of them limited to 75 listeners and my new one: unlimited listeners).

OPUS won't do much on Audio Quality as I expect.

S/N (Signal to Noise Ratio) and Dynamic Range for real recording world was heavily compressed.

 

I could say that 128 Kbps MP3 which is standard like YouTube or other Public Streaming services elsewhere.

OPUS took less space and even perform higher audio quality,

This is the reason why they support this Audio format.

Less space storage and better sound quality.

Sadly that Opus Format don't support Cover Art Metadata like original Ogg-Vorbis format.

 

But in real world, it's kind of you're listening to Bose or Yamaha tiny speakers that presented cool ambience sounds

But lack of real impact sound like live performance of Classical, Jazz, Rock or Electronic Music today.

I get used to real P.A. and live systems, my related career.

 

There were some jitters & unexpected noise after OPUS conversion process.

Let's see how it go in the long run.

 

Good Luck DJs

:) :) :)

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Some handy INFO about using proper LUFS plug-in for Mixcloud upload.

I've had hard time with upload my extreme audio quality there before (started this year: 2019).

Normally, I do my master set with True Peak Wave file and convert to Apple Lossless format (m4a)

Of course, this is the reason why my set must not exceed 60 minutes (with +/- 2 minutes at MAX).

Mixcloud allows only 500 Mb for each set.

 

There were bizarre Audio conversion process at Mixcloud all the time.

They made me confuse about what went wrong with my internet connection.

Sometimes it reached 5 loops of uploading re-try :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Mixcloud don't give you specific LUFS there, they're trying to help you do Max audio broadcast.

I've learned about making one pass, it should not going more than average -9.0 LUFS & done.

It was my first time this year to upload my latest mix there in a blink...

 

Remark: if you used DAW for audio mastering, please set your master mix channel to average RMS option.

Any adjustment of Audio Compressor, Limiter or Clipping FX (even EQ and etc). You've got to do by your own design.

It's like cooking, secret sauce & other ingredient will make your customer (your fans) happy at last.

 

Good Luck Djs.

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Mixcloud cheater won't win after new policies were released this year.

Please check capture picture I've found.

3 DJs, all of them didn't buy Mixcloud Pro option at all.

Last one was a cheater by boost listener numbers.

Neither Re-post nor Favorite report from his fans at all.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

 

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You can notice about either "Select" Violet banner or Blue "Star" icon of each DJ there.

It means they paid at least 135 USD per year to get special privileges from Mixcloud.

They can hide number of Re-post, Favorite numbers as long as they want.

And will reveal during half of competition week.

"Select" option is for download Audio content from Artists which is new option this year.

 

For your information,

Good Luck, DJ

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Is Playlist important on Mixcloud?

Well, it's YES or No, Up to you :) :) :)

 

I'm always post my playlist there around 4 - 6th day after upload my set.

Complete Playlist announcement means you've created your own set, not copy from other DJs

No matter what it was whole or partial of set.

Playlist is also help boost original Artists to get their revenue from Mixcloud.

When your fan're listening to your audio stream.

Original Artists, Composers will get their revenue too.

If Mixcloud Cheaters play with listening bot, this process won't count.

 

 

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Normally, I filled up my track list on Day 1 but not post it yet.

Like revealing your playing cards on Poker Game to win BUT must not too soon...

Cause some of your competitors may copy your coolest vibes and re-produce against  you too.

Don't let them copy your Best card to beat you before the end game.

 

Mixcloud accepted almost playlist from DJ software like Serato, ViaDJ, Traktor...

Or any DAW programs that contained Marker List/Track List report option.

But Pioneer Rekordbox is quite a bit tricky.

 

P.S. Watch Pro DJ commented about it. The best benefit from Mixcloud is  worry-free of Music/Audio content Copyrights :lol: :lol: :lol:

But there are some rules & restrictions too.

 

 

Good Luck, DJ

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Another free DAW from Cakewalk software.

We can have Free Bandlab DAW software by apply as registered member.

 

There are 3 options for you to apply.

Via Apple Store, Android Market for either Tablet, Pad or Mobile Phone.

 

Even better, it's a migration from Sonar Cakewalk program owner.

I have Cakewalk Professional software which Bandlab provided a smooth software update.

My old Melodyne 2.xx plug in was upgraded to version 4.0 :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

I have no time to test new apps but if you interested Bandlap DAW Software.

Minimum requirement for both of Apple & Windows OS need 64 bit software installation.

 

Other iOS or Android apps for Bandlap's just streaming services (I guess).

LIke Soundcloud, Bandcamp and etc.

Audio Quality's quite good so far.

Check more INFO yourself, good luck

 

https://www.bandlab.com/

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Well, I'd like to stop posting Mixcloud stuff here.

I'll moved entire INFO to my latest topics, TYVM for your reading time.

 

Mixcloud is not hard for you to presenting your set.

There are tons of listener and happy to listening various Music Genre you've created too.

All of tips I posted here may be a little help for you to be one of recognized DJ there :) :) :)

 

Local 3DXChat DJ is such a tiny world.

Some of so-called in game DJ here

They copied other DJ set, I sometimes traveling with my AVATAR.

Those were totally fraud. Please stop.

 

If you're real, hobby DJ or just a music lover like me.

Don't give up, keep your Music creation and sharing on Mixcloud.

It's 100% worry-free about Music Copyrights (some rules & regulations may applied).

 

I confirmed even a famous DJ here, he's got +10K followers.

Even if he's just copy & paste weekly music DJ there.

Nah...I'm pass, don't like to follow his Jukebox routine job.

Sammy loves the hard way :lol: :lol:

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Well, I decided to working with this topic again cause I've found inappropriate INFO from so called DJ here.

I used to iggy them but I will release all and I will take necessary action against all bulls**t they lied to us.

They were too many misleading about DJ tips from fake Newbie DJ here, mostly.

Even worse, they had only 1 or 2 set on DJ streaming website.

But post on DJ forum here like they're pro. 🤣🤣🤣

 

P.S. I still stuck with new 35 Electronic Music Scales compared to a dozen old school one.

I wish they knew about basic Camelot Wheel first, giggles.

No one wants to listening & dancing with constant beat/rhythm like a Military Band refer to their lectures here.

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New INFO from Mixcloud, they've just announced about free membership limitation.

It's fair business for creators who posted their works to this website.

In my opinion. Big name DJs can keeping on with this change.

But this is the big problem for first start or local DJ who's looking for more fans to support.

Mixcloud is seeking for fair play in order to prevent DJ who seek cheating way of boost listening count on their set.

By limiting listening to 3 times per 2 weeks (free member) with ADS like Spotify.

You'll see less number of crazy DJ who posted 4-5 set per day will become useless.

Cause free listeners will save their limit privilege to listening to DJ they love.

Of course, Favorite & Re-post number may be still same number but listening count will be huge reduction.

Listening minute is more important with new STAT too.

 

For me, I'm just a hobby DJ that has no revenue from this, just share my set to friends.

See new policy from Mixcloud...

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P.S. This new policy won't effect to non-DJ at all.

Just a little annoy during ADS interruption whilst playing stream there.

😁😁😁

 

 

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One more important thing before you spending your money with Mixcloud services.

It's called "Select Subscription" which is less charge per month compared with Premium Mixcloud listener plan.

On Premium Plan, you can't download show just listening, But with "Select Subscription". YES.

You can only download from specific DJ you choose, not all.

Number of their set will be shown and it charged per month. See what privilege they offer you first.

My experience with Mixcloud, it's not easy to cancel subscription. Please be more careful.

I don't have any idea about their Audio Quality but should be same like Spotify Premium service.

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P.S. This option may be fitted for non-DJ to copy their set and replay them at Private Room like T.V. Dinner. 😁😁😁

But I don't think those set could apply on Public Rooms.

Good Luck

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Your Mixcloud Website Suggestion

After "Select" option provided by Mixcloud for DJ who's seeking for more opportunity to sell or promote his set to streaming listeners.

By providing "Posts" button (with Megaphone icon) for Select Players to advertise their latest set there.

Don't underestimate it, you're always see pending read mark just as +5 at max.

But if you really want to make it clean and don't read them ever, you're really in deep sh*t situation like me.

I haven't checked and read it for only a month and there are tons of Select Players posted there.

At least, I cleaned 150 posts today 😅😅😅

The easiest way to clean them is starting from the latest post, do right click as "open link in new tab" on your Web browser.

Repeat on same unread posts until you're running out of Internet browser tab space and delete those tabs.

It depends on how long you ignore this button. The more day you ignore them, the more time & harder to clear those pending posts.

Believe me, there are some crazy & silly Select Players that promote his set 5-6 times per piece.

P.S. If you don't mind about it, that's OK.  But you'll miss some new post from your good DJ who support you too.

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Good Luck,

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