Upcoming Updates Discussion

[Maxx]

I would never support a "certain select few" as content creators for 3dx. A great deal of fun comes from creating clothing designs, just like the World Editor has added another level of fun to 3DX. 3DX can easily provide an array of UV maps to skin anyone with Photoshop or Gimp can texture.

 

The arguement '3DX doesn't do there billing therefore you can't have an economy' is rubbish. One only needs to look at RLC who uses a separate billing vendor also to see this isn't a problem.

 

The arguement '3DX would have to change their costs cause they would lose money' is also rubbish. It actually can become another income stream for a company as they can assign a small fee to designers who upload designs for sale.

 

'I paid so much in other worlds this should be free because I need mommy to hold my hand and control my spending impulses'

 

Well, no need to even address that thinking.

 

'Boo hoo, no one should have more than I do because I'm in a game too much when I could be working and making money I can actually afford things with.'

 

Well, that one really doesn't need addresses either does it? Maybe you can role play the homeless hobo look.

 

No one forces anyone to buy anything in economy based games. Furthermore there is often a lot of free content anyway. Economies spur content creation. RLC and Second Life still have massive user bases because of their economies. That is a fact.

[DarkFairy]

Still pointless talking about a shop, first thing you need is the means for users to create content because the devs (dev) clearly will just drip feed crap.

 

Then

you

can

have

a

shop

 

Right now you could have a shop for houses to test the concept though

[DarkFairy]

I don’t think Gizmo is lazy, he just has a job and a life and does this on the side, that’s also obvious.

 

Everyone pays their sub despite the bitching, me included, so why the fuck wouldn’t he just carry on doing what he does? Clearly he’s not expecting it to, or wanting it to grow beyond that. For whatever reason.

 

I really don’t care, these pointless threads spark equally pointless conversations, it’s like a meta troll.

[Pangea]

Can someone please explain to me why there is no hide/remove World Chat function in the game yet? I've been off and on for almost three years and I've seen it requested numerous times. I don't care that it exists. I don't want to see it pop up EVERY single time I launch the game. It's not even offensive, it's just annoying. I shouldn't have to ask for such a basic feature, but here I am. 
Please don't say "just dont look at it", or "close it", that's not what im referring to. Rarely is the world chat feature used outside of argumentative no lifers and room advertisements, the latter I'm completely okay with. There SHOULD be a world chat. But please for the love of god let me get rid of it.

 

If this is being discussed anywhere else I would like to be sent there. I just made this forum account today out of frustration that nothing has been done. 

Cheers all and have a great day

[MeiLing]

Gizmo is lazy, that is why we are suggesting this, how many clothes items have we had added over the last 2 years, very few.

What we are suggesting is a way for clothes to be added frequently without having to relay on Gizmos lazy ass to do so.

 

If it is limited to just a few people as I have suggested then the payments from Gizmo to that hand full of people would be easy, it could even be done manually through something like PayPal.

The most complicated part of that would be taxes, which isn't very hard either.

Because it would be for only that hand full of people it could be done rather simply and very securely.

To every body else in the game it would be just like buying a drink, they pay and the XGold is deducted.

As it is only a few people that can get paid fr supplying the clothes, then a very simple system can be put in that just sends that info to a database where only those people can receive, so it is easily made secure.

 

They wouldn't have to reduce the sub at all, it could stay exactly how it is.

People will be able to buy these clothes using the XGold they get given to them for logging in, and others may choose to buy XGold to get more clothes.

As for there only being a handful of people wanting shops, you are wrong there to, there are a lot, I would say even more than don't.

People want a better supply of clothing updates, and custom content has been asked for by lots to have that happen.

 

And yes he did say everything would be available to everyone for just the sub price, that was a long time ago though.

Since then he has added quite a few things that cost in the thousands of XGold where people are buying XGold to be able to do those things.

So he has already gone against that way of thinking.

Some people have like 14 picture slots, costing so much that I think money has been spent to buy XGold.

Others buy XGold to get married and devorced.

Now people will be buying XGold to change names and create alts.

You yourself have said that he added those things with the cost to make more money, so you are kind of contradicting yourself.

 

People will be able to save the 300 XGold they get each day to buy clothes, just like they save for things now.

Others will buy XGold to do it quicker, just like they do for things now.

 

You completely miss the point... How am I not surprised. It is a SEX GAME not a fucking social game . So no need for shops and other stuffs of this kind. Gizmo has adapted the tools to this. You want a social game then move (IVMU, Second Life). 

[Mar Mohan]

I'm just going to leave this here for those that think a shop is what should be done when it was suggested years ago.  This was the solution to that suggestion.  I do not believe they will do shops here and only picking a select few in the end could make other users leave that would be interested or those that come to the game and see it.

http://3dxforum.com/index.php?/topic/2208-user-created-content/

[Scipio]

Why so fixated on the shop? I think the point is that the big step forward would to enable users to create content. Isn't this soemthing that users generally would appreciate. Having a means of sharing good content enables those who aren't good at making things to have access to them, hence shop. Little black pj's a bf goodrich sandals for me. To be serious again, 3dxchat has a means of exchange in the form of xgold. What's so wrong with putting it to work, at the moment it's a useful as putting a wad of bank notes under the matress to save up for your pension.

[Tony_D]

For what it's worth I'd love to see some kind of shop thing for XGold.  Could be like a tailor shop, an auto shop, a home builder shop, a prop shop, etc - all in game.

 

I've only been playing for awhile but the game does need more things to do in game - as some have said.

 

Also, how about pets?  Yeah, I know this ain't The Sims, but I'd love a big dog wandering around my home.  Well, besides me. 

[DarkFairy]

Why so fixated on the shop? I think the point is that the big step forward would to enable users to create content. Isn't this soemthing that users generally would appreciate.

Uh, isn’t that what I said, hello, is my mic on?

[DarkFairy]

I would like unicorns and fuzzy alien babies please.

 

Actually just as sensible a request

[Maxx]

You don't need a physical shop. That kinda thing existed in RLC years ago and has been pretty much abandoned in favor of a catalog. Going to individual shops would take too much time. Far easier to just use a a search engine to find what you want. Male -> shorts -> swimsuit....boom a list of pages of swim trunks.

 

Keep in mind, RLC is still developing Oasis. It lacks good graphics still, extremely customizable Avitars like it had, and the sex positions. It has everything else and more. WE, Clothing Editor, etc.

 

It would be foolish to ignore what may happen if the graphics became on par or better than 3DX and you had hundreds creating content daily.

 

This isn't just a sex game. You can only jack off to cartoons for so long without more to engage you - like friendships and the ability to create.

[Twiggy]

Just a quick reply here to the people saying creating clothes for 3DXChat should be open to all, like the world editor.

The problem with that is for every item of clothing created we all have to download each and every one of them in the next update.

Lets say it is open to everyone and all of us start creating our own clothes.

Even if it was done so the person who created an item of clothing can be the only one that can wear it, each and every item created still has to be included in the updates to all of us, otherwise we would not be able to see that persons unique piece of clothing.

If it was done that we could all create clothing then there would end up being thousands to tens of thousands of files we would all need in our own computers so we could all see that unique piece of clothing that person is wearing.

It is the way Unity works, for all of us to see the clothing we all have to have those files in the games directory on our own computers, they do not come from the server as we are playing the game.

If it was done that way, where they did come from the server as we play, then the servers would be strained.

 

Also to have it so there are more than just a hand full of people adding clothes would make it a lot more work to add the feature.

There would also be security problems created from trying to make it available to everyone to be able to sell clothes.

[LovelyBritney]

Best way to go about it is to release a clothes editor where anybody can make clothes, anything they like and submit it for review. If the administrator team finds them good and it passes their filters and quality checks, then it would be added to the game for free like any other clothes.

 

It requires no extra coding of a whole shop, which would take years in 3dxchat developement, it would make about 110% more sense than a shop suggestion and would work better.

[Nikki]

As it is in the scroll of truth you posted earlier

 

[Alliehotass]

In game shops?............LOL..........how about an in game Bug Exterminator shop. 

 

Wilps ah tink we need a Clothes Editor. Like tha World Editor, imagine shopping fo clubs/rooms/props instead of making them yaself, BOOOOO, would suck, so ah tinks a setup very similar to tha WE. Devs can buy tha cheap bargain bin specials from Unity, install them to our Editor and then we can build like we do rooms n sich. Textures, Materials, Shapes/Clothing Patterns etc.

 Thens get creative and make your own creation and eet be seen no matter how bad like sum rooms. We all have tha stuff needed in tha Editor so no need fo filtering and selecting and special creators and shops and money and blaaah blaah blaaahh.

 

Firstly we will neva get shops, a pose Ed and Clothes Ed are like long shots and BUG Fixes will neva happen eevers, why you ask? Chairs, we need ems, we runnin low and every update we require more sitting props so we can be comfortable waitng fo tha Clothes/Pose Ed and Bug Extermination Shop

[Keely Kat]

I have an idea that could be added to make the game better and it’s playability endless:

 

A gaming system:

Poker

Blackjack

Roulette

 

Where xgold can be won. Since you can not “cash out,” I don’t believe this would be subject to any federal gaming laws. Someone can correct me here if I am wrong. People get money for nothing in game and this shouldn’t change.

 

This would allow users to build a real casino / resort.

 

It would also allow the game to build revenue and potentially fund more development for more content. Content is Queen!! You can cap people’s winnings and losses so that those idiots with a gambling problem do not lose more than X value of gold per day. The stakes in these games could be set lower.

 

If xgold being a value of real dollars is an issue then a person could just receive casino money when entering that has no real value to avoid any regulations. Fake currency is truly not subject to any gaming law.

[DarkFairy]

How about this game does what it does properly before we try get it to do something else?

 

We have a “Chat”, we’re halfway at the “X” in my opinion and working on increasing the “3D” How about concentrating on what it’s supposed to be before we start bolting on crap and gimmicks.

 

By Chat I mean the basic ability to communicate, block, etc in game in different ways. I think we have that.

By X I mean poses and sex related things, still sorely lacking in variety in so many ways.

By 3D I mean the world we are in in game. World editor was a great step, we need more for our individuality though. Clothes, more avatar customisations etc..

 

Although honestly, has anything from any suggestion thread in 6 years been included? Would love to see examples, I can’t be bothered to search.

[Aliviax]

Hint ...? newer unity engine upgrade n pose editor  the 2 big updates  

[YouAreMySpecial]

Why can't we be friends

[alex9110]

Hint ...? newer unity engine upgrade n pose editor  the 2 big updates  

I remember the last time they updated the engine (back when we got 3DXChat 2.0), they promised alot of new stuff, and that everything would take less time to be added like poses and clothes (sadly we didnt got anything after a long time), it took them about 1 year (one year we spent witout any new content in the game because they were too busy with the new engine), so... upgrading the engine once again would be another waste of a year... truly hope that dosnt happen again.

[Maxx]

Just a quick reply here to the people saying creating clothes for 3DXChat should be open to all, like the world editor.

The problem with that is for every item of clothing created we all have to download each and every one of them in the next update.

Lets say it is open to everyone and all of us start creating our own clothes.

Even if it was done so the person who created an item of clothing can be the only one that can wear it, each and every item created still has to be included in the updates to all of us, otherwise we would not be able to see that persons unique piece of clothing.

If it was done that we could all create clothing then there would end up being thousands to tens of thousands of files we would all need in our own computers so we could all see that unique piece of clothing that person is wearing.

It is the way Unity works, for all of us to see the clothing we all have to have those files in the games directory on our own computers, they do not come from the server as we are playing the game.

If it was done that way, where they did come from the server as we play, then the servers would be strained.

 

Also to have it so there are more than just a hand full of people adding clothes would make it a lot more work to add the feature.

There would also be security problems created from trying to make it available to everyone to be able to sell clothes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, you don't need to download them with every update. The others worlds  that do this don't rely on that neither should 3DX.  The catalog is updated as soon as you upload to it. The catalog should never be dependent on patches.  It's a separate system accessed.

[Cassey]

A few thoughts…

1. A place to enter color codes for props and outfits to have the exact color we want.
2. More outfits available from 3DXChat… In the near future, it would be nice if user created outfits were an option even if there was an applications process.
3. A realistic working mirror prop would be nice even though it creates lag 3DXChat will likely get blamed for when people use it too much.
4. Of course more sex poses which I imagine are expensive to create.

[Twiggy]

No, you don't need to download them with every update. The others worlds  that do this don't rely on that neither should 3DX.  The catalog is updated as soon as you upload to it. The catalog should never be dependent on patches.  It's a separate system accessed.

 

Maxx, this is just basic computer science.

I don't care what happens in other places, they could have bigger servers and lots more band width.

 

The files that are needed have to be somewhere so the game can find them and display the clothes on everyones computers.

Any clothes that are in 3DXChat at the moment are in all of our computers in the games directory, if a new clothes item is added the files for that item is sent to each and every one of us in the next patch.

But lets look at it in simple terms.

Lets say they make it so everyone can create their own clothes, like a clothes editor in the game.

For every item of clothing created there are several files that would need to be made, texture, bump and so on.

If someone has created a piece of clothing for all of us to be able to see that piece of clothing we need to have access to those files.

They either need to be supplied to us through an update so we then have them in the game directory on our own computers for the game to access them from there.

Or they will need to be able to be accessed from a server.

Now if it was done the second way, supplied from a server, then look at this scenario.

100 people are in a room in 3DXChat, and someone enters that room with a piece of clothing where the required files are supplied from the server.

The server would then have to send all of the several files required to display that one piece of clothing to each and every one of the 100 people in that room.

It would mean a massive extra load on the servers.

It is not the same as the world editor, clothes work completely different.

Even if that piece of clothing can only be warn by the creator, the files still need to be supplied to all of us or we will not be able to see it.

 

Also, if they were to create a clothes editor for use in the game, and make it so everyone can create clothes then how many clothes items do you think there will be?

Lets say this, not everyone will create clothes, some won't do any, others will do multiple items each month.

Lets say it averages 1 clothes item per person each month.

There is something like 7000 active members in 3DXChat.

For each clothing item several files are needed to be created, that's 7000 times several files each month.

After say 6 months we would be looking at hundreds of thousands of files that will either have been needed to be supplied to us in updates and stored on our computers in our games directories, or stored on a server and accessed by us as needed.

And we are talking about 3DXChat, where because of the higher graphics detail these files are much bigger than other places.

It can be done yes, but it will be very expensive in the way of demands on not only the servers but also our computers.

[DarkFairy]

It would work better if user created clothes were submitted for inclusion, reviewed and then included in a regular monthly update patch. That way the developers could quality and quantity control.

 

But that won’t happen. Needs more involvement and staff.

[Maxx]

Maxx, this is just basic computer science.

I don't care what happens in other places, they could have bigger servers and lots more band width.

 

The files that are needed have to be somewhere so the game can find them and display the clothes on everyones computers.

Any clothes that are in 3DXChat at the moment are in all of our computers in the games directory, if a new clothes item is added the files for that item is sent to each and every one of us in the next patch.

But lets look at it in simple terms.

Lets say they make it so everyone can create their own clothes, like a clothes editor in the game.

For every item of clothing created there are several files that would need to be made, texture, bump and so on.

If someone has created a piece of clothing for all of us to be able to see that piece of clothing we need to have access to those files.

They either need to be supplied to us through an update so we then have them in the game directory on our own computers for the game to access them from there.

Or they will need to be able to be accessed from a server.

Now if it was done the second way, supplied from a server, then look at this scenario.

100 people are in a room in 3DXChat, and someone enters that room with a piece of clothing where the required files are supplied from the server.

The server would then have to send all of the several files required to display that one piece of clothing to each and every one of the 100 people in that room.

It would mean a massive extra load on the servers.

It is not the same as the world editor, clothes work completely different.

Even if that piece of clothing can only be warn by the creator, the files still need to be supplied to all of us or we will not be able to see it.

 

Also, if they were to create a clothes editor for use in the game, and make it so everyone can create clothes then how many clothes items do you think there will be?

Lets say this, not everyone will create clothes, some won't do any, others will do multiple items each month.

Lets say it averages 1 clothes item per person each month.

There is something like 7000 active members in 3DXChat.

For each clothing item several files are needed to be created, that's 7000 times several files each month.

After say 6 months we would be looking at hundreds of thousands of files that will either have been needed to be supplied to us in updates and stored on our computers in our games directories, or stored on a server and accessed by us as needed.

And we are talking about 3DXChat, where because of the higher graphics detail these files are much bigger than other places.

It can be done yes, but it will be very expensive in the way of demands on not only the servers but also our computers.

 

 

Twiggy, I only read the first paragraph.....

 

Bottom line is. It works in other worlds so it can here.

 

 

Simple really.