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3 hours ago, Twiggy said:

See, just as expected, and do I really have to say about the male avis I had and what they were used for again, and that they never saw the outside of my room or had any friends or even met anyone. That they were only there for like a few days. That like other women we had them for trying new poses, and that there was only a couple that I had and had named them in these forums. And also that yourself knows that because you checked them up on Pandora. I have nothing to hide and never had, you can try make me look like something I am not all you want, do you think I didn't expect that from you, and everyone who knows you knows what you are like. So if you think it really bothers me think again. I knew you would come back with this as I know it would be hard for you to come up with something new with the lack of intelligence you have. 

Oh and be careful Rob, banned people from the forum are not meant to come back, all we have to do is show it is you and you will be gone again, like your many other forum accounts that were banned.

You know, you and I were never really on the same page xD But on this we are kinda on the same one. It bothered me since I started to play here, that it is kind of accepted when male playing as female, with or without the hint in the profile. But as soon as a women has a male avi, she is instantly on the "fake" page. Never really liked it and understood that. There are women out there, who would like to be a men now and then. But it seems that isn't even accepted at all in here, sadly. 😕

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No one can really control what another person does or thinks. I am pretty sure everyone would enjoy the game more if they just played it how they wanted to, and that seems to be the direction people have taken over the last couple of years. Also, back when Pandora was around it showed the top 10 players based on number of gift. I think 3-4 of them were female avi's that said in their profile they were male operated. I don't think who is behind the avi is what people look for first. Most people are looking for people who are good at RP, and interesting to talk with, or people who are into music, and want to be part of events. I really think people are making a bigger thing about how much a lot of people care about this issue, because for whatever reason they are insecure. Its really not helping anyone, or the game's reputation though having it constantly brought up by people on the forum, the more it is the more the game moves in the opposite direction then those people want, because it dissuades people who care about it from joining the game when they see the forum. After a while I wonder what some people's motives are who are fixated on this whole thing, bringing it up constantly doesn't prove anything to anyone. But whatever, its not an issue that affects me personally, although it would be nice though if people could at least be nice to each other.

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15 minutes ago, Niblette said:

After a while I wonder what some people's motives are who are fixated on this whole thing

Isn't it's only Twiggy? I mean I saw other ones who was bringing up this topic, but the only one I saw here who really fixed on it is Twiggy. Talking about it again and again, and again, and again, even if she does not play the game herself lol. 

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1 hour ago, Loruna said:

You know, you and I were never really on the same page xD But on this we are kinda on the same one. It bothered me since I started to play here, that it is kind of accepted when male playing as female, with or without the hint in the profile. But as soon as a women has a male avi, she is instantly on the "fake" page. Never really liked it and understood that. There are women out there, who would like to be a men now and then. But it seems that isn't even accepted at all in here, sadly. 😕

That's not the only way some parts of 3dxchat community tends to discriminate people. I have a close person in game, she is a transsexual irl. She does not have penis anymore irl and usually don't have any desire to use it in game too, playing just as a regular girl. Yet some people were getting angry on her because she refused to turn on a cock, in their tiny mind mtf transsexual = futa, so they were taking it as some default, basic, even guaranteed option – that she should play with her cock on. And she actually one of the most honest people I know in 3dxchat and have info about who she is irl in her profile – but it costs her nerves because of some people in the game. It would actually be easier for her in some cases probably to just pretend that she is a girl from the birth but I she is just a very honest person. She also knows some other rl TS like her – and told me that some idiot was verbally abused her friend because of the same reason – refusing to play as a futa. 

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5 hours ago, Xizl said:

Isn't it's only Twiggy? I mean I saw other ones who was bringing up this topic, but the only one I saw here who really fixed on it is Twiggy. Talking about it again and again, and again, and again, even if she does not play the game herself lol. 

Hmm, you seem to be fixated on me when it comes to this subject, FYI, there are people in this forum that feel they have to comment when ever this subject is brought up every single time it is by the many different people that have brought it up. I don't do that, I do comment when it is brought up often I admit, but no where near every single time like certain other people do. But then they have the opposite view to mine which seems to make it different in your view. I have never seen you say they are fixated on it. 

And by the way, yes I do include you as being one of the people that seems to be fixated on it, of late anyway. And who knows, as you are an alt account you may even be one of the ones that has always been fixated on it.

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6 hours ago, Phoenixsong said:

u cant see them quoted in other peoples posts? are you a witch because i dont know this magic

Of course I can see a quote.  Not a comment/post though.  Thank God she is rarely quoted. I'd prefer it too that when I block someone they cannot see my posts either. A true block where the blocked cease to exist would be quite perfect.

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10 minutes ago, Twiggy said:

Hmm, you seem to be fixated on me when it comes to this subject, FYI, there are people in this forum that feel they have to comment when ever this subject is brought up every single time it is by the many different people that have brought it up. I don't do that, I do comment when it is brought up often I admit, but no where near every single time like certain other people do. But then they have the opposite view to mine which seems to make it different in your view. I have never seen you say they are fixated on it. 

And by the way, yes I do include you as being one of the people that seems to be fixated on it, of late anyway. And who knows, as you are an alt account you may even be one of the ones that has always been fixated on it.

I was seeing you talking about this subject more than anyone on this forum. You were doing it before I was doing it, while I was not doing it and will keep doing it again and again, I am sure. Maybe some years ago it was the other way, I don't care, I did not play years ago and what is in the present is more important than what was in the past anyway. You can say that it's my subjective opinion and you will be right  – I did not really collect a statistics about who and how many was posting about this stuff, but I am pretty sure that most of people here who read this forum regularly have the same opinion as me lol about you being fixated on this subject more than anyone here. Which is pretty weird considering that you don't even play the game anymore. 

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1 hour ago, Xizl said:

I was seeing you talking about this subject more than anyone on this forum. You were doing it before I was doing it, while I was not doing it and will keep doing it again and again, I am sure. Maybe some years ago it was the other way, I don't care, I did not play years ago and what is in the present is more important than what was in the past anyway. You can say that it's my subjective opinion and you will be right  – I did not really collect a statistics about who and how many was posting about this stuff, but I am pretty sure that most of people here who read this forum regularly have the same opinion as me lol about you being fixated on this subject more than anyone here. Which is pretty weird considering that you don't even play the game anymore. 

Yes I do not play the game now, but what you don't seem to understand is this subject is the main reason I do not play. Not only that there are lots of people feel the same way and even more who will not even look at the game because of it. You have some times acknowledged these problems and others that are created by these guys, but it seems to me to be a camouflage for what your real intentions are. If the devs were to even try do something about how easy it is for these guys to do what they do I would be happy to come back to the game, so I will continue to come in these forums and point out my opinions on it. I also feel there are lots like me would do the same.

It is fact that this is the biggest problem with the game, the main thing that has people leave and the main thing that keeps people from trying it, yet there are certain people that will when ever it is brought up in these forums will belittle it and try to make it sound like it is something minor or that nothing can be done. It is not a minor issue, it is and always has been the main problem with the game. There are plenty of things that can be done to lesson the impact of it but when ever it is brought up the same people will always come in with comments like nothing can be done, it is just how things are and try their best to make sure nothing is done. Then when people like myself and others try to show things can be done they attack the character of that person, try to degrade and belittle and shame, like you do with me. You and others have called me a bigot, transphobic and other things that I am not, trying to make it sound like I am attacking people where I am not. I have always stated what I am trying to do which is to get the devs to realise the problems so many guys playing as females causes and that there can be things done to lesson the problem. Yet you and others will always try to make out it is bigotry or me hating transgenders just to try present and argument and degrade. I think the reason you and others do this is because if you try to address what is actually being presented you don't really have an argument, so you attack with unfounded reasoning and try to make it something it is not.

Yes I am well known for being in these forums fighting this and there are a lot of people who do not like it, but one thing you likely do not know is there is also a lot of people who respect me for what I do. It seems like half the people in the game hate me, but the other half love me. I don't think I need to explain why that is.

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2 minutes ago, Twiggy said:

Yes I do not play the game now, but what you don't seem to understand is this subject is the main reason I do not play. Not only that there are lots of people feel the same way and even more who will not even look at the game because of it. You have some times acknowledged these problems and others that are created by these guys, but it seems to me to be a camouflage for what your real intentions are. If the devs were to even try do something about how easy it is for these guys to do what they do I would be happy to come back to the game, so I will continue to come in these forums and point out my opinions on it. I also feel there are lots like me would do the same.

It is fact that this is the biggest problem with the game, the main thing that has people leave and the main thing that keeps people from trying it, yet there are certain people that will when ever it is brought up in these forums will belittle it and try to make it sound like it is something minor or that nothing can be done. It is not a minor issue, it is and always has been the main problem with the game. There are plenty of things that can be done to lesson the impact of it but when ever it is brought up the same people will always come in with comments like nothing can be done, it is just how things are and try their best to make sure nothing is done. Then when people like myself and others try to show things can be done they attack the character of that person, try to degrade and belittle and shame, like you do with me. You and others have called me a bigot, transphobic and other things that I am not trying to make it sound like I am attacking people where I am not. I have always stated what I am trying to do which is to get the devs to realise the problems so many guys playing as females causes and that there can be things done to lesson the problem. Yet you and others will always try to make out it is bigotry or me hating transgenders just to try present and argument and degrade. I think the reason you and others do this is because if you try to address what is actually being presented you don't really have an argument, so you attack with unfounded reasoning and try to make it something it is not.

Yes I am well known for being in these forums fighting this and there are a lot of people who do not like it, but one thing you likely do not know is there is also a lot of people who respect me for what I do. It seems like half the people in the game hate me, but the other half love me. I don't think I need to explain why that is.

Aw girl.  I get you.  I know of someone on game.  He has been at this for many years.  A man in real who likes playing a woman.  He has married many a man with them thinking they were in love with a woman.  These men were left shattered, broken hearted and embarrassed and ashamed. Many because they are not gay felt disgusted.  This same person came after my best friend and they became close but was discovered before his heart was invested.  This person plays on many alts and is expert role player.  It is a horrible person who can do this to another especially one they claim they care about. It has nothing to do with being a bigot.  You are either attracted to a man or you are not. I know and respect many of all sexual persuasions but I do not respect a liar.  I much prefer the person who states openly I am a woman/man in real but prefer to play the game as a man/woman.  Be honest about it or any love you find will be based on a lie. So I appreciate your efforts. Too many have left game because of this type of experience.

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1st i will say : you scare future customers with that discussion lol

second ill say : its a upcomming update discussion ,so its better stick to it 

third ill say : people pay from 6 euro to 25 euro per month here depending the offer they have bought So they are free to play as they wish unless YOU pay them their subscription So you can tell them how to play the game :) might be good or bad  non the less they are paying customers :) what you can do is be picky so u avoid them .

i dont care why males play as females or females play as males  not my buisness but what i care is that everyone pays and as long as they do not offend or insult anyone its ok lol Not to mention a girl will always want a nice juicy cock so males that play females wont have much luck since lesbians here are so very few and they will realise playing female is waste of time maybe lol who knows .

Now make some cool suggestions  cause 3DXCHAT is moving to the future ❤️ with cool n costant updates and guess what best stuff are yet to come dont forget cloth system -hair editor -pose editor so many cool exciting stuff :) 

 

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1 hour ago, Atalas said:

@Twiggy

Although I completely agree with you in some issues, and disagree in others, I can't help but wonder, why are these forums even relevant to you if you don't play the game at all. Especially the upcoming updates discussion section...

I am actually doing what certain people kept telling me to do, leave and talk with my money. As I have already said if the devs ever decide to do something about not making so easy for these guys to do what they do I would be happy to play again. According to people in this forum other games did so, like having a 3rd gender. So sometimes when it is brought up in here and the same stuff is said from others to try deter the devs from doing anything I will have my say. Others can come in these forums and go on about things like lack of updates, one sided updates, lots of things that are regularly brought up by the same people over and over, often by people that are no longer in the game. I myself have got involved in things like the FFF poses. I wonder why it is that people always get so sensitive about this issue.

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Nothing in the world will ever be exactly the way everyone can agree on. Is this game anywhere near perfect - of course not. Still better than most other things like it. I simply want more frequent updates like we have been getting lately. Hopefully that will move it towards the way more people want it. I still think besides the obvious things like more clothes, poses, etc. that we need more to do in the game.  Things like mini-games could add a lot, more audio noises you could trigger, more interactive things, more special events maybe with prizes, etc. Look at other multiplayer games and see what they do to keep people coming back. My 2 cents.

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i was thinking

suggestion one : a cinema dev location like saloon fresco etc locations but this time a cinema room :)

people could go there with their friends n hung out etc n watch movie (dont tell me about we had tv old days cause that tv was very small lol )

suggestion 2: A Ski resort center a location with a resort fireplaces inside bar tables for hot cocoa and mountains with snow n people be able to ski :) also A dev loacation 

Suggestion 3: a shopping Mall Dev location  with different stores many signs with lights few cafe stores ,where ppl again can hang arround walk arround 

3 ideas to add  to the social aspect of the Game 

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I doubt they would run a theater due to the need for liscensed content. However, if they created a script that could be attached to a prop, users could host movies/porn/youtube make theaters and SD would be off the hook.

 

Not sure about the other two suggestions you've made as they could be made by users already. What would be the draw?

Personally, I'd like to see the ability to use WASD keys and change gravity. You could then have ski lodges where you could ski or sledding downhill.

A popular option still in older worlds is the ability to rollar skate. Skateing can be pretty fun, at times and building skate or ice rinks -but you still need WASD. 

Lot's of things still missing. Charactor customization, clothing editor, weather, movement, gravity, etc..etc. etc.

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5 hours ago, Aliviax said:

i was thinking

suggestion one : a cinema dev location like saloon fresco etc locations but this time a cinema room :)

people could go there with their friends n hung out etc n watch movie (dont tell me about we had tv old days cause that tv was very small lol )

suggestion 2: A Ski resort center a location with a resort fireplaces inside bar tables for hot cocoa and mountains with snow n people be able to ski :) also A dev loacation 

Suggestion 3: a shopping Mall Dev location  with different stores many signs with lights few cafe stores ,where ppl again can hang arround walk arround 

3 ideas to add  to the social aspect of the Game 

Good ideas! I would also add that there would be a need for a large and permanent dev room for RP games. (Shopping Mall, Police, Hospital, Cinema ... etc) :)

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13 hours ago, Phoenixsong said:

the males pretending to be females thing happens all over the internet, not just this place. it isnt much of an interesting topic for the big majority here, if anything its embraced and encouraged with how the game is designed

I do not understand why this is even an issue. I do not care which gender or race the author of an erotic novel has, neither do I care who controls an avatar here.

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Not really sure what developers suppose to do to prevent anyone from playing avi in different gender to their real one, that would not just put in place some sense of false security is anyone is really determined to mislead someone. But you could probably argue is they pursue people in manner that goes beyond just playing 3Dxchat as experience, it would probably be catfishing which might be considered harassment to some degree. Assuming of cause they don't just play game but intentionally set out to hurt people by deceiving them by for instance intentionally trying start romantic relationship outside while being dishonest about who they are. That said I don't think if you startet making all kinds of verification and false sense security measures it would really help 3dxchat, since I imagine late portion community here come for escapism or just having fun in imaginary life sim like chat/world with possibility to live out naughty fantasies, you could argue if there come all sort of gender control and measure it start getting to the feel of something more a kin to some dating app than anything else.

Which is likely going to scare many people away who are not here to be serious or looking for life partners outside.

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5 hours ago, THX said:

I doubt they would run a theater due to the need for liscensed content. However, if they created a script that could be attached to a prop, users could host movies/porn/youtube make theaters and SD would be off the hook.

I doubt it. You Tube for example does not much more than hositing content which users load up. In spite of that they have to pay to copyright collecting societies in EU. Well, I think EU but in Germany (GEMA) certainly. This battle GEMA vs. YT in court lasted for ages. I am not a lawyer, but it seems as if it is not that easy anymore.

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