SuzyShine Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said: They do. They do polls and players can decide. That is a problem for minority. Most of the players are straight. That is why people should ask for a balance first. Maybe I am stuck in a bisexual bubble, but when looking at the Sin or other places I get the feeling that the game is full of lesbian or bisexual women ... Often 70% of the crowd in the Sin are women, about a half of the married ones are married to other women. But maybe those are all men in disguise to increase their chances, lol Besides: Disadvantaging a certain group because of its lesser size is not a good argument. Even though the majority might be straight this shouldn't be a reason to treat the others worse, because those pay the same money. Therefore, I used the request: "stop being so heteronormative", because that's even not fair if the straight folks are the majority. It's also not about "we want to have more FF and FFF poses", it's a question, why it isn't possible to offer certain poses like sitting on the submissive partner for all gender? Why are five of the 13 MF vaginal poses not available for lesbian or trans/futa, as they could use them also with strap-on or girl's penis? Why on the other hand are 5 of 11 FF oral poses with a penis while lesbians in the reality have mostly oral sex? Also, the FF poses on the chair and in the pool are with a penis, there is no pose to lick pussy on the chair or, even worse, in the pool. Why is there only one cumshot pose for FF/Trans/Futa but 3 for MF? And why cumshot, why not squirt for FF? And since when is scissoring a female fetish? It's one of the most common lesbian poses and should be found under "vaginal". The other fetish pose is again with a penis, why can't we fumble with our feet in the vagina of our beloved? And not talking about the fact that for years the female breast seems to be completely uninteresting for making love Yes, I get it, I hear it every time, too difficult to develop because of different breast sizes ... Don't get me wrong, I like dick, lol, I am married to a man with one But my question is: Why can't the devs offer some existing MF poses not also for FF/Trans and why are there still so less "pure" FF (and of course FFF) poses? Or ask gay men, the situation for them is even worse. It is like it is. But it's not fair and I don't like inequality ('cause I am a Libra) ☙𝔼𝕩❧ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☙𝔼𝕩❧ Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, SuzyShine said: Maybe I am stuck in a bisexual bubble, but when looking at the Sin or other places I get the feeling that the game is full of lesbian or bisexual women ... Often 70% of the crowd in the Sin are women, about a half of the married ones are married to other women. But maybe those are all men in disguise to increase their chances, lol Besides: Disadvantaging a certain group because of its lesser size is not a good argument. Even though the majority might be straight this shouldn't be a reason to treat the others worse, because those pay the same money. Therefore, I used the request: "stop being so heteronormative", because that's even not fair if the straight folks are the majority. It's also not about "we want to have more FF and FFF poses", it's a question, why it isn't possible to offer certain poses like sitting on the submissive partner for all gender? Why are five of the 13 MF vaginal poses not available for lesbian or trans/futa, as they could use them also with strap-on or girl's penis? Why on the other hand are 5 of 11 FF oral poses with a penis while lesbians in the reality have mostly oral sex? Also, the FF poses on the chair and in the pool are with a penis, there is no pose to lick pussy on the chair or, even worse, in the pool. Why is there only one cumshot pose for FF/Trans/Futa but 3 for MF? And why cumshot, why not squirt for FF? And since when is scissoring a female fetish? It's one of the most common lesbian poses and should be found under "vaginal". The other fetish pose is again with a penis, why can't we fumble with our feet in the vagina of our beloved? And not talking about the fact that for years the female breast seems to be completely uninteresting for making love Yes, I get it, I hear it every time, too difficult to develop because of different breast sizes ... Don't get me wrong, I like dick, lol, I am married to a man with one But my question is: Why can't the devs offer some existing MF poses not also for FF/Trans and why are there still so less "pure" FF (and of course FFF) poses? Or ask gay men, the situation for them is even worse. It is like it is. But it's not fair and I don't like inequality ('cause I am a Libra) I totally agree with you. Polls should be based on a balance first and after this step on the players votes. If any group of people have lack of poses, it should be fixed. Devs do this. They added fff/mmm. It should more. Mathematics is important (I am Aries) Edited October 23, 2019 by ☙𝔼𝕩❧ SuzyShine and JimStevens 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzyShine Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said: [...] Mathematics is important (I am Aries) Awwww, that'll be a good connection for spending time horizontally, ehem , hahaha, but I won't battle with an Aries, never! ☙𝔼𝕩❧ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimStevens Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 10 hours ago, SuzyShine said: So please: Stop thinking in old role models and straight gender and let the players decide, which pose they want to use as long as there are no limitations because of the physics of the bodies of the AVIs. The world is colorful, not either black or white 3DX is a virtual computer program and cannot be defined by black and white. It can only be defined by 1's and 0's There are Limitations on the Physics of the Bodies of the Avi's. To be more accurate, its a matter of size, more than physics. Males are bigger than Females. It all depends on how the program, for pose editor, is written; however, my best guess is, if Gizmo and the dev team make a MF pose then it can only be used by a Male and Female. When the Male is replaced with a Female, the bodies of the Avi's no longer line up and the entire pose has to be redone, or at least fixed. Same problem when the Female is replaced with a Male. Additionally, the pose for MM cannot be vaginal so it has to be redone for Anal. I don't think Gizmo and the dev team are being heteronormative , but ill let them dispute that. I do agree that more poses for MM / FF / TT are needed. Easy fix, is to go in reverse order when adding poses. MMM poses: 0 poses overall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- add 7 poses FFF poses: 6 poses overall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- add 1 pose MFF poses: 7 poses overall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0.0 MFF poses: 7 poses overall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0.0 MMF poses: 6 poses overall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- add 1 pose MM poses: foreplay 14, anal 16, oral 8, cum-shot 0, fetish 1 = 39 poses overall ------------------------------------------------------------------- add 17 poses FF poses: foreplay 14, vaginal 8, anal 11, oral 11, cum-shot 1, fetish 2 = 47 poses overall --------------------------------------------------- add 9 poses MF poses: foreplay 15, vaginal 13, anal 10, oral 10, cum-shot 3, bisexual (?) 4, fetish 1 = 56 poses overall ---------------------------- 0.0 SuzyShine, Tankard and ☙𝔼𝕩❧ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Is it really zero MMM poses? I mean, aren't devs added these in last few patches? And btw if you want to really compare the numbers – better do it actually checking all poses, not only the ones on the bed. Edited October 23, 2019 by Xizl Rodin, JimStevens and ☙𝔼𝕩❧ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimStevens Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I wasn't doing the counting. I think they added 3 MMM/FFF...… or was it 5 between two patches. I'm so confused.... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzyShine Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, JimStevens said: [...] It all depends on how the program, for pose editor, is written; however, my best guess is, if Gizmo and the dev team make a MF pose then it can only be used by a Male and Female. When the Male is replaced with a Female, the bodies of the Avi's no longer line up and the entire pose has to be redone, or at least fixed. Same problem when the Female is replaced with a Male. Additionally, the pose for MM cannot be vaginal so it has to be redone for Anal. I don't think Gizmo and the dev team are being heteronormative , but ill let them dispute that. I do agree that more poses for MM / FF / TT are needed. Easy fix, is to go in reverse order when adding poses. [...] I see your point and can't contradict, that's a good thing So let's keep hoping that there will be more poses for MM/FF/TT ... the last updates were promising ☙𝔼𝕩❧ and JimStevens 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I am hoping for more cuddle and kissing poses that can be used by all. Along with the option to switch positions. JimStevens, ☙𝔼𝕩❧, Vaughan_Rarius and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeloo Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, JimStevens said: 3DX is a virtual computer program and cannot be defined by black and white. It can only be defined by 1's and 0's There are Limitations on the Physics of the Bodies of the Avi's. To be more accurate, its a matter of size, more than physics. Males are bigger than Females. It all depends on how the program, for pose editor, is written; however, my best guess is, if Gizmo and the dev team make a MF pose then it can only be used by a Male and Female. When the Male is replaced with a Female, the bodies of the Avi's no longer line up and the entire pose has to be redone, or at least fixed. Same problem when the Female is replaced with a Male. Additionally, the pose for MM cannot be vaginal so it has to be redone for Anal. I don't think Gizmo and the dev team are being heteronormative , but ill let them dispute that. I do agree that more poses for MM / FF / TT are needed. Easy fix, is to go in reverse order when adding poses. MMM poses: 0 poses overall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- add 7 poses FFF poses: 6 poses overall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- add 1 pose MFF poses: 7 poses overall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0.0 MFF poses: 7 poses overall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0.0 MMF poses: 6 poses overall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- add 1 pose MM poses: foreplay 14, anal 16, oral 8, cum-shot 0, fetish 1 = 39 poses overall ------------------------------------------------------------------- add 17 poses FF poses: foreplay 14, vaginal 8, anal 11, oral 11, cum-shot 1, fetish 2 = 47 poses overall --------------------------------------------------- add 9 poses MF poses: foreplay 15, vaginal 13, anal 10, oral 10, cum-shot 3, bisexual (?) 4, fetish 1 = 56 poses overall ---------------------------- 0.0 There is not 6 FFF poses, there is maybe one or two FFF and the others are any combination of TTT, FTT or FFT. And it's the same for the FF poses where most of them are at least FT. Edited October 23, 2019 by Leeloo JenC, JimStevens and SuzyShine 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, JimStevens said: I wasn't doing the counting. I think they added 3 MMM/FFF...… or was it 5 between two patches. I'm so confused.... lol It was 6 if we talk about FFF and count the poses with cocks/strapons as a FFF too. Not sure about MMM tho, but I suppose 6 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, SusanLouisa said: Along with the option to switch positions. Yes please! It's so much needed in group sex, ANY group sex, even old MMF FFM poses, and even more in new FFF poses, and probably MMM too, because some people just getting confused how it works and how to get a right position and it kind of ruins the buzz when you all hot and horny and instead of just enjoying the action, sexting and your partners – need to explain them what they need to do to get into right position or even figure it out by yourself. SuzyShine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☙𝔼𝕩❧ Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, SusanLouisa said: I am hoping for more cuddle and kissing poses that can be used by all. Along with the option to switch positions. How can it be? I mean switching positions. A button with an offer to switch? I didn`t read whole forum,maybe someone suggested it. It is interesting to see. JimStevens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, Atalas said: I honestly agree with you with all my heart and I truly feel that as being among the most unfair and unpleasant experiences you can have there But I can't truly blame most of the guys, while the dev team is mostly focused on updates, poses and clothing for female avis. I mean everybody likes regular updates, everybody likes to see new things in the game. And if they are well aware that playing futa unlocks access to vastly more options, unlike playing normally as men, no wonder bunch of straight guys are barging in your space. I mean there is a lot to gain, little to lose. And they can count on regular updates in a game they invested their money in. I truly wish you wouldn't have to deal with these people, I don't like them either. But you can relaly blame the devs for this. Since ultimately people pay money, right? And they expect value for that money. Male avis are like a placeholder. and those among us who maybe refuse to pretend are only playing as it is. It really is garbage how big is the difference between genders when it comes to customization, and general content. But as it is you just have to deal with it, because at every patch dudes will jump over and enjoy the porn on their screen and enjoy the expanded amount of stuff. Well, 3dxchat is first of all sex game, at least positioned like one. So I don't really see the reason to go play a girl avi because of clothes if you heterosexual male without much feminine leaning. I mean, MF poses is a most wide category, it kind of makes no sense to go play as a girl for more content. If we are not talking about men who plays as a girl because of desire to be a girl in the game and embrace their femininity or real transgenders, I guess the rest mostly do it just because it turns them on to look at tgirl X girl action on the screen or simply because it's easier to get laid as a futa. Tho I agree that men have a very limited customization and need a lot more stuff. I just don't think that it's really a reason why male players go play as a girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☙𝔼𝕩❧ Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) One man meet one "woman". Chatting, finding each other interesting. A little bit later on the bed: 2:06-2:12 Edited October 23, 2019 by ☙𝔼𝕩❧ Tankard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, Atalas said: Well even if you rate it as a sex game first of all It's not about how I rate it. It's about how the game is positioned by developers. Yes, it's not solely a sex game, but it's advertised as first of all sex game and most of newbies come here for it. Yeah, when people stay for long many tend to stay because of social side and relationship, but I would not say it's a majority of players. Majority of players you can see hanging around in some rooms with SLUTS, ORGY and GANGBANG in the title lol. About why guys play as a girls or futa and other stuff close to this subject... Well, I already stated my opinion plus having a lot of talks with Twiggy about it before, so I kind of tired of it and don't really want to move topic into this discussion once again. ☙𝔼𝕩❧ and R0bT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeloo Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 18 hours ago, Xizl said: It's not about how I rate it. It's about how the game is positioned by developers. Yes, it's not solely a sex game, but it's advertised as first of all sex game Well peoples see only the big letters, but if you read the small letters it clearly say "3D sex game, Community & Virtual World" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusanLouisa Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 22 hours ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said: How can it be? I mean switching positions. A button with an offer to switch? I didn`t read whole forum,maybe someone suggested it. It is interesting to see. I did not understand it either till a female friend of mine showed me in game. We partnered and in the pose where the woman is on top of man kissing while laying down, when with two women there is a toggle switch where you can switch to the other partner being on top. Same with the pose where the man's head rests in the woman's lap. Again a toggle witch where the other partners head can be in lap of the other. Try it yourself with a trusted female friend. If this can be done for F/F it can certainly be done for all in these poses and other poses new and old. Vaughan_Rarius, Tankard and ☙𝔼𝕩❧ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Leeloo said: Well peoples see only the big letters, but if you read the small letters it clearly say "3D sex game, Community & Virtual World" Yes, but I guess it's not a secret that most people who comes to 3dxchat – comes here for a sex part. Yes, the ones who stays – often stays because of social connections, but rarely someone come here for it in a first place. Edited October 24, 2019 by Xizl MeiLing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Okay, consider me REALLY excited Aliviax, SuzyShine and ☙𝔼𝕩❧ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☙𝔼𝕩❧ Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, Atalas said: I bet all my money that it will be female only also. How much? Xizi, Aliviax and Tankard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvonny Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Just now, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said: How much? Two fiddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvonny Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ross said: off to jail you go Hell no , glad i saved it! R0bT and Xizi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaganda Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 hmmmm... I really really wonder about the wisdom behind making a vote for a feature that has been asked for for years!!! Vampixie, CindySaphire and Leeloo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampixie Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Wisdom.... in here...? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☙𝔼𝕩❧ Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Keks did new stockings. Another user content. Surprised in a good way. Angelqueen, Tankard and Leeloo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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