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The link is more about how when you start adding a lot of custom scripting (like a Pose Editor, Clothing Editor, Stores, and things of that sort would require)  you can face some major hurdles when updating to newer versions because of the custom stuff needing redone. Factors i'm sure they are weighing. Factors which lead LL to NOT use Unity or Unreal.

 

Do you stay with the current version you are using?. Do you upgrade? If you upgrade when? Do you upgrade at all? Do you work on a new upgraded version independently till it is ready?

 

My two cents,

 Many people get bored with games be it MMO, SIM, FPS, whatever. User created content and different activities in online games helps to keep customers around as they start doing different things to keep it fun for them. They may build a little while, then create a few outfits, maybe host a few virtual parties or some other entertainment activity available in many virtual worlds. LL went all out with user content in different ways….I’m sure their own new will be designed differently this time. UV to a lesser extent, so have more options. It seems to be a delicate balance between keeping a virtual world current as years go by while allowing us customers more options to entertain ourselves in the now.

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The link is more about how when you start adding a lot of custom scripting (like a Pose Editor, Clothing Editor, Stores, and things of that sort would require)  you can face some major hurdles when updating to newer versions because of the custom stuff needing redone. Factors i'm sure they are weighing. Factors which lead LL to NOT use Unity or Unreal.

 

Do you stay with the current version you are using?. Do you upgrade? If you upgrade when? Do you upgrade at all? Do you work on a new upgraded version independently till it is ready?

I know about scripting and such with how all of that works.  I read the article and that was my comment about what has been stated before with shops and such.  When I commented it was about the fact that people keep saying about user created content with shops on here, that's something that Gizmo said they'd never do as they want all users to have access to it.  World Editor is different as it's much like decorating a room, the room as it was before the WE update were all identical for house 1 & 2 then we placed furniture or used the .dll file to move furniture outside of it.  Do you know how long it took IMVU to finally correct the extra digit on the one hand?  I'll tell you, it was over 10 years and the problems that happened after wards from fixing the jewelry to poses was a royal pain in the ass for a lot of users to make the shift because if a user has over 1K for example in items they have to check each one to see which had the now missing digit and broken item to be fixed.  I've posted this line by Ashbash for those who are interested in adding content to the Devs for the game.  http://3dxforum.com/index.php?/topic/2208-user-created-content/ If a user wants to submit something it's easy to do but it's the Devs choice to do it.  Also I understand the upgrade part as well, the Devs may be taking all aspects as you have some users who are on older computers that may not work as well with an update they do, I mean there are still glitches that go on and have been reported to them.  Something simple for a change can fuck up enough to cause other major issues, it's always a WIP.  I have my work computer, my laptop and a PC and yes I keep them all updated because of what I do.  There is always an issue when upgrading things for certain things, hell Microsoft fried some hard drives when they did a forced Windows 10 update on Windows 7/8, I know someone they have to have Microsoft send out their hard drive to the data pulled which cost almost $3K but Microsoft paid for it as it was their fault.  I can say when I build I use the lowest settings possible because I don't know what users would/wouldn't be able to load the room and want everyone to enjoy it not sure about others do.  I do agree that the game needs more content which a lot of people have stated.  It would be nice to see the game grow from what it was in 2015 when I started to when I came back in 2017 to present, not much has been added or changed in the way of content besides World Editor which not all users are familiar with using.

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Well times change and ideas evolve. You never know down what path they may go.You can still have stores and user created content here based off xgold or shared like world files. There are numerous ways user content can become part of the game without the need of submiting simple texture changes to clothing to to the devs. It's worked with the world editor it could easily work with clothing. The issues in the article are possibly the reason we don't see the pose editor Gizmo asked about over a year ago.

 

 

If franchises where available and competative with ones that exist and there was enough flexibility, I and a group might be interested in taking a franchise in a slightly different direction if it all worked out. There certainly is potential for growth. Sansar is going to provide the maximum flexability for development as that is what the platform is being specifically built for - user created content of all types. It's just a few years away still.

 

With the population of the US as high as it is and add in the fact 3DX is worldwide, a US server on a friday night prime time shouldn't only have a max 350 on during prime time after this many years. It could be in the thousands. One problem leading to that is retention. One way to get a longer retention is for there be more things to do in a platform than just masterbating and signing off.

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Do you know how many games have come and gone that were supposed to be the up and coming and never made it? A good amount, in fact some have been mentioned here as it was stated how much they were going to do and offer and well they fell flat. It's not as easy as people think and the constant change is what makes the difference to any game.  When making changes to one thing it can easily create other issues that have to be sorted out, things do take time.  While I've said it before, I'll say it again, yes this game does lack for content but at the same time the graphics are by far better than some others.  Allow me to pose this question, to those that say about this game and that.  Even with companies like SecondLife as it was stated is doing Sansar, Utherverse is doing Curio but have they been fully released, are they truly better than here.  I can tell you this from what's been seen and so far how things work, be it, new and all to the user, they still lack just as here does.

 

Utherverse / Curio/Oasis Preview - New Client in development - Demo Walk

https://forums.utherverse.com/yaf_postst130690p7_BIG-Announcement-and-Details.aspx

https://forums.utherverse.com/yaf_topics47_Curio-General-Discussion.aspx

Sansar by Linden Lab (SecondLife)

https://www.sansar.com/

https://community.secondlife.com/forums/topic/424258-whatever-happened-to-sansar/

Limitless - a game that had very high hype and didn't even get a start-up.
http://limitless-universe.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJaUo7LmZEg

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Do you know how many games have come and gone that were supposed to be the up and coming and never made it? A good amount, in fact some have been mentioned here as it was stated how much they were going to do and offer and well they fell flat. It's not as easy as people think and the constant change is what makes the difference to any game.  When making changes to one thing it can easily create other issues that have to be sorted out, things do take time.  While I've said it before, I'll say it again, yes this game does lack for content but at the same time the graphics are by far better than some others.  Allow me to pose this question, to those that say about this game and that.  Even with companies like SecondLife as it was stated is doing Sansar, Utherverse is doing Curio but have they been fully released, are they truly better than here.  I can tell you this from what's been seen and so far how things work, be it, new and all to the user, they still lack just as here does.

 

Utherverse / Curio/Oasis Preview - New Client in development - Demo Walk

https://forums.utherverse.com/yaf_postst130690p7_BIG-Announcement-and-Details.aspx

https://forums.utherverse.com/yaf_topics47_Curio-General-Discussion.aspx

 

Sansar by Linden Lab (SecondLife)

https://www.sansar.com/

https://community.secondlife.com/forums/topic/424258-whatever-happened-to-sansar/

 

Limitless - a game that had very high hype and didn't even get a start-up.

http://limitless-universe.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJaUo7LmZEg

 

 

 

Curio has morphed into Oasis. Oasis hosted The Pornhub awards last September. It is still in development.  Due to the complexity they have tried to achieve Development is slow. They also face the the Delema 3DX does. Do you stay with the Current version of Unity or Do you upgrade to the newest. I saw firsthand the carnage that occurred during the Unity 4 to Unity 5 update. They had to nearly start all over from scratch again because of the high modifications they have with clothing and props market and all the problems they have had with security in Unity to protect peoples money and creation rights. The Mocap animations had problems, whole scenes could no longer be used - it was a freaking mess. Oasis became a stripped down version of Curio because the code had become spaghetti. Sadly, The high modifications of the Avi were lost in that striping and was a fantastic feature. Perhaps to return, who knows.   User Uploads, like Sansar, has now is still something they are working on still. The Avi's still have a way to go to be developed and graphics need improved. They recently fired their Artist who imo made the graphics look worse than they should compared to previous Curio artists. He improved, but they really need a better artist/artists.Utherverse is currently adding new content to RLC from Curio. To those who havn't had new content at all for 6 years in RLC you'd think Santa came.

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https://oasis.game/Home/

 

 

Sansar Is still around. It isn't developed yet as you should have seen in that article. It still needs it's age rating system developed and implemented before it can host adult content. Look at the Specs for Sansar. You will have to have a modern rig to even have a chance of being in it. They arn't seeking the old computer crowd. It will be higher end stuff.

 

I never heard of Limitless,  so I have no comment on that.

 

I have no idea what 3DX will choose as their path forward, but they certainly need to be aware that other competitors are in development still  and others will come sooner or later. It's all about the Benjamins in the long run and the larger your user base the more Franklin's you'll have. There are great ideas from each of the major adult worlds that combined into one 'game' would be quite impressive.

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I don’t think 3dx should be afraid at all by any potential competition. What it should do in theory is encourage the developer(s) of this game to improve the game to stay ahead of rivaling projects and at the same time benefit from a growing user base created by such scenarios as well as being able to raise prices to fit with supply and demand.

 

If they chose to be very devious one ingenious plan could be to stage other failed start ups that eventually flop before release, until a genuine competitor emerges, making it appear that providing this product is much more difficult than it really is. Of course, that may just be my criminal mind at work and much more of a bother than it would be worth.

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To really improve 3dx need an actual development team, not just 1-2 persons working on a game.

Maybe, maybe not and not necessarily. It would probably depend on how the team was structured. Diversity in ideas and concepts is not always a good thing and there is the saying "too many cooks in the kitchen spoil the broth".  It might also put a strain on finances for them and not make it worth it as much to keep this game online. It's not as simple as you may be making it out to be. Then again you could be totally right.

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Maybe, maybe not and not necessarily. It would probably depend on how the team was structured. Diversity in ideas and concepts is not always a good thing and there is the saying "too many cooks in the kitchen spoil the broth".  It might also put a strain on finances for them and not make it worth it as much to keep this game online. It's not as simple as you may be making it out to be. Then again you could be totally right.

Well, having more than 1-2 devs for the game is not a situation of "too many cooks in the kitchen" especially if it's hired employees.

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Well, having more than 1-2 devs for the game is not a situation of "too many cooks in the kitchen" especially if it's hired employees.

My bad, I had no idea you had access to how much revenue 3dx creates, along with their budget information and costs.

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Curio/Oasis ... No comments...

 

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with such competitors ... 3dx may still not do anything for 10 years ...

 

Critique is good if done honestly.

 

Maybe next time let it load??

 

Never saw that glitch.

 

You running a VPN, bad internet, old puter, Putin behind it?

It is rather funny in a cosmic sort of way.

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Just going to chime in here as a citizen of Oasis. Yes it is that bad. Don't get me wrong I have enjoyed running around the place and checking things out but the avis are TERRIBLE. The entire place is 'clunky' and unappealing to the eye.  It might very well get better with time but at this particular time it is a no go. 

 

Edit.. and for the record I am running a very good computer from Canada. 

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Critique is good if done honestly.

 

Maybe next time let it load??

 

Never saw that glitch.

 

You running a VPN, bad internet, old puter, Putin behind it?

It is rather funny in a cosmic sort of way.

all settings are on ultra, internet speed? Putin? what are you talking about? I have 100 mb / s. Me was enough for 10 minutes to understand how bad Oasis.

 

P.S. or maybe you want to say that I needed to see how this monster would stop and attack me? Noticing me standing next to her :D

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all settings are on ultra, internet speed? Putin? what are you talking about? I have 100 mb / s. Me was enough for 10 minutes to understand how bad Oasis.

 

P.S. or maybe you want to say that I needed to see how this monster would stop and attack me? Noticing me standing next to her :D

You definitly have something weird going on. It wasn't even loaded. You can tell by the loading timer. 10 minutes? Lol you couldn't have seen much to critique in 10 mins. The VR theaters, the little quests, the menus of clothing and props, The mocap animations, the money machines that can be used to gamble and sell services. There are some incredible ideas that exceed anything you've ever seen. They just don't get that the need in an adult world is more about the users pleasurable experiences, interactivity and eye candy - than it is about the backend tech, platform potential and scalability. They have aspects 3DX should have and 3DX has aspects they should. Aspects which Sansar seems to want to meld together.

 

There are plenty of things to bash it on. But you wouldn't have seen them in "10 mins." Lol

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I'm going to say this.  From what I've seen of the other games which have been in Beta for a long time much like what this game would be considered.  Here's the thing, none look as good graphic wise as this does.  Some have been in the works since before 2009 and they're still in the works.  This may not have all the bells and whistles but even in the works, it's still a good game to play.  It's been said before about this game or that is coming out and from what people have seen, it's not any better than this.

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I'm going to say this.  From what I've seen of the other games which have been in Beta for a long time much like what this game would be considered.  Here's the thing, none look as good graphic wise as this does.  Some have been in the works since before 2009 and they're still in the works.  This may not have all the bells and whistles but even in the works, it's still a good game to play.  It's been said before about this game or that is coming out and from what people have seen, it's not any better than this.

Oh I totally agree 3DX has the best eye candy right now. It however could be so much more as the other worlds show.

 

3DX could crush much of the competition if content could be added like the other worlds or Dev team released weekly content.

 

Edit: Forgot to add it has the most creative and simple building tool also.  Another huge plus. The ability to be creative and build things without learning 3D modeling programs. That adds a HUGE enjoinment factor the other worlds don't have.

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