Perimede Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 This is a topic that came up with some friends over last weekend and has rumbled gently, 'cos they're firends, since. I thought it would make a nice aside for here and the forum users could help resolve the dispute between my friend and my husband. My friend's view, which I tend to agree with, is that the two cannot possibly be the same as British Punk came out of the dire political situation pervading 1970's Britian. Reflecting the sense of alienation of young people at a time of high unemployment. She also says that she remembers that as a child that the weather was always 'total shite' ................................................. She rather wound up my husband by saying that The Ramones sold out as soon as they decded that stripped back rock n roll was commercially viable. My husband's view is that it all started in the USA as a reaction to the rather over indulgent rock culture created by the 60's and early 70's bands and that politics was nothing to do with it. I sort of agree with him too. He says that the British Punk Movement rode off the back of that and added politics later. So what does everybody here think? HarryFub, chaostika and KYUSS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Mohan Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Look at the music from both countries during that era then go from there. It could be said either way that one played off of each other. Then look at how both have evolved since then. You may have your answer then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimede Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 Interesting, Rob. I didn't know that. It does kinda support my friend's view that Punk isn't really Punk without the politics attached to it. My friend was aso talking about 'Rock Against Racism' and how a lot of bands at the time were heavily involved in that. So let's have a few examples, Mar .................... anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimede Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 Whoops - I should have popped this in :-) chaostika, AtticusFinch and KYUSS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimede Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 OMG!!!! The hair!!!!!!! AtticusFinch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimede Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 That's ace, Mikey. I suppose if we're going to do a 'my Dad was there' thing mine would suggest :- I've been doing a bit of nosing around and found this article - https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9923-the-story-of-feminist-punk-in-33-songs/ Which, I think, shows the across the trans Atlantic nature of things and that normal politics wasn't the only thing people were pretty pissed off about. AtticusFinch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☙𝔼𝕩❧ Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I know only SexPistols, they are mostly about politics. but I don`t support idea that a "punk" is only about politics.btw, PE was called by someone as "sex pistols in RAP" because of the politics in their lyrics. sorry if i lose a point of this topic. Perimede, KYUSS and chaostika 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloe Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Can I throw German punk rock into this thread? ^^ KYUSS, Perimede, chaostika and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimede Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 /me smiles at Chloe. Also thinks Mikey was working on his kick drum style in-utero. Just thought I'd pop this in for good measure. AtticusFinch, chaostika, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☙𝔼𝕩❧ Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I put my last penny about "punks".Looks like punks not about music genre, because we can hear different sound from different ages/years. Iggy Pop, Nina Hagen,The Exploited, The Sex Pistols, Ramones, Green Day, Off Spring and so on.They are singing not always about politics and some of them hate it. But as one of my friends(from this genre) noticed, it`s always about freedom, independence, manners and self expressions. And often about alcohol or drugs x) AtticusFinch, KYUSS and chaostika 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaostika Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 some german punk from my own punk days - 3 decades ago *caughs* and something newer of switzerland i think AtticusFinch, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ and KYUSS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYUSS Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 #virtual #mental #SELFheadshot #aua chaostika 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimede Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 I love threads like this - like you get to listen to music you wouldn't do otherwise, yeah. What about this for just before going out on a Sunday lunchtime :-) AtticusFinch and chaostika 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimede Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 Just thinking that it would be nice to have someone post a few US punk bands - I don't know enough to try. It'd be good to hear what other countries were getting up to as well. After a lifetime of being brought up to love Etta James, Gladys Knight and others I now discover my Dad is a closet punk :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlaera Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Many of the early Seattle Grunge bands were punk bands, or at least heavily influenced by punk. Some will argue that Grunge "Brought punk to the masses," much to the bands' chagrin, since most of them didn't want to be popular. But early Nirvana (pre-Nevermind) was pretty punk. So was Soundgarden's first album. Not so much Pearl Jam. And some of the lesser known early grunge bands, like Mudhoney, were really punk. Tlaera AtticusFinch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimede Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 4 kin' ace :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimede Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 That's so cool - I'm going to go looking for something unusual now. What abot Italian punk? Or even further afield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I know for me, the attitude all seemed to start with Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground, and from there grew into the shock value of the New York Dolls. But, then I grew up with the greatest band of all time, right from home here in Canada, the Forgotten Rebels. "https://www.youtube.com/embed/-bHa25pyfqw"frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> "https://www.youtube.com/embed/Pw-MOyf5P8E" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> "https://www.youtube.com/embed/I8qqQeLe_G8" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> "https://www.youtube.com/embed/5waWGFXKxzY" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> From there, Robin Black and the Intergalactic Rockstars was just a natural progression. "https://www.youtube.com/embed/A3swOUxd0RA"frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> But, of course, those classics like the Pistols, Ramones, Dead Kennedies, they always hold a special place. KYUSS and AtticusFinch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perimede Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 /me loves this. I have a good rl reason atm for listening, and learning, all sorts of different songs. Just thanks to everybody for posting their ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYUSS Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfzY9n_3A8&feature=youtu.be chaostika 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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