redheadrider Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Cassey said: Thank you redheadrider, I am still surprised Cloudflare whom claim to be one of the best cannot stop the attack like most other businesses do. Purchased services maybe... Cloudflare's approach isn't to *stop* it per se... it's to spread out the attack across their network, so no one part fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IXDRE Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Hace 5 minutos, CaptainAmerica dijo: No sΓ© cuΓ‘l es tu experiencia o quΓ© experiencia tienes (tampoco conoces la mΓa). A menos que tenga su propio nΓΊmero AS, ejecute BGP y tenga algunos enlaces de mΓΊltiples rutas, no tiene control total sobre cΓ³mo mitigar un ataque DDoS decente. Si solo alquila algunos servidores dedicados o VPS como lo hace 3dxchat, no hay muchas cosas que puedan hacer. Simplemente tome quΓ© tipo de conectividad a Internet le brinda el centro de datos y, en caso de que estΓ© bajo ataque, simplemente estΓ‘ en contacto con ellos para que puedan resolver el problema. Les puedo garantizar que la mayorΓa de los grandes centros de datos no tienen protecciΓ³n DDoS en absoluto.Es fundamental que dirijan todo su trΓ‘fico a travΓ©s de algΓΊn servicio como Cloudflare (como lo hacen ahora) para que el atacante no conozca su IP de fondo real. YO soy 100% positivo de que el ataque ocurriΓ³ directamente en el backend porque si estuvieran atacando Cloudflare sin ningΓΊn problema. Usando algΓΊn descompilador en el cliente o incluso mΓ‘s fΓ‘cil, usando un sniffer de paquetes, puede obtener fΓ‘cilmente la IP del backend, ya que aquΓ es exactamente donde todos los clientes se conectan para autenticaciΓ³n y chat y acciones en tiempo real. Dices que no sΓ© de quΓ© estoy hablando, pero estΓ‘s diciendo cosas poco realistas. Siempre estoy hablando con la situaciΓ³n actual en mente. PodrΓa decir que si estΓ‘s bajo ataque, solo haz un BGP con Google y anuncia tu nΓΊmero AS a travΓ©s de ese enlace, ya que tienen la capacidad de mitigar el ataque. O simplemente mueva todo su servidor en un centro de datos que ubique en un gran ISP y realice un intercambio local con ellos jajaja, pero estos no son escenarios reales. Dado que la IP de su backend real estΓ‘ expuesta, no hay mucho que puedan hacer en este momento. Simplemente chatean de un lado a otro con el equipo de red de su centro de datos y esperanzas lo que estΓ‘n haciendo. Por supuesto, si todo sucediΓ³ a travΓ©s de Cloudflare (pagado no el gratuito), podrΓamos tener una conversaciΓ³n totalmente diferente en este momento. AdemΓ‘s, imagina estar en el foro de un juego sexual y tratar de mostrar quiΓ©n es el nerd tecnolΓ³gico mΓ‘s grande jajaja XO Quiero preguntarte, mediante tus conocimientos, cuanto tiempo tardarΓ‘ en regresar el juego? lleva 2 dias...Β Edited May 17, 2020 by Natalys Cassey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassey Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Translation using translator, and I am logging off. Be safe and well everyone. "I want to ask you, through your knowledge, how long will it take to return the game? It takes 2 days..." Edited May 17, 2020 by Cassey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainAmerica Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Natalys said: Quiero preguntarte, mediante tus conocimientos, cuanto tiempo tardarΓ‘ en regresar el juego? lleva 2 dias...Β From my personal experience, DDoS attacks don't last that long. The biggest attack I have personally seen happening in networks that I manage, a bit more than 24 hours. So... Either the attacker has lots of money to spend and doesn't care, or maybe something else is happening that we don't know of. I couldn't tell. We just have to assume that they are doing the best they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redheadrider Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Natalys said: Quiero preguntarte, mediante tus conocimientos, cuanto tiempo tardarΓ‘ en regresar el juego? lleva 2 dias...Β Based on the detail from @CaptainAmericaΒ regarding protection of the real IP address -- it'll take the amount of time the DDoS has left, unfortunately. That means the game server is being directly attacked... if it's currently running. It's not likely possible to play the game while we have them attacking the server, definitely so if the protection is turning the server off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutellagirl Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 HO PIENAMENTE FIDUCIA DELLO STAFFΒ 3DX. TRANQUILLI A BREVE RITORNEREMO NEL NOSTRO GIOCO PREFERITO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redheadrider Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, JollyWog said: So you're trying to tell me that we don'tΒ have a back-up server likeΒ a we would have a generator for a blackout? Furthermore no systemsΒ or contingency plans in place for such a problem, given that there has been similar problems in the past... Even worse thisΒ has happened on the weekend, the only days when IΒ getΒ to seeΒ my 'in-game wifey'... Our previous problems have been server instability from normal use. A backup server would have to somehow have our production data still for it to be useful. There's no guarantee that that server is currently usable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk N Waye Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 As promised for Gizmo, Lisa and anybody else who's helping in any way to get our crazy,kinky but highly entertaining game back.Some moral support in the form of some great food,great wines;beers and whiskeys. Enjoy! We luv ya! (Cyber food and drink for a cyber world.) Β Andaislu, jadekhali, Constellation and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaislu Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Norfolk N Waye said: As promised for Gizmo, Lisa and anybody else who's helping in any way to get our crazy,kinky but highly entertaining game back.Some moral support in the form of some great food,great wines;beers and whiskeys. Enjoy! We luv ya! (Cyber food and drink for a cyber world.) Β Mmm you are providing a feast! Let me in too! lol JeanTyBen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeiLing Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Any updade from Gizmo? PluushPuussy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaWulf Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Not a thing at all recently MeiLing and βπΌπ©β§ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davi Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 The general concenous seems to be a few days, and all Gizmo can do is work with his data centre, Which I am very sure he is. The attack was obviously done on the Friday to make sure it was difficult to sort over the weekend. The rest of the tech stuff I can not comment on but the information from some has been very useful in understanding what is happening. Xizi, MeiLing and βπΌπ©β§ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadWord Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 7:38 AM, Gizmo said: Guys, we're still under attack. We managed to keep the forum stable, but the main game server is still unavailable. We have taken a number of protective steps and continue our work to bring you back into the game. This is our main goal. Thanks for your support! This is the last statement, a bit over 24 hours ago. And, as many people have said in the thread, sometimes these attacks will just have to time themselves out. ItΒ΄s frustrating, but it is what it is. skully 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruna Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 It's everyone's best guess, what is actually happening. The only fact is that the service is disrupted for one reason or another. It's a DDOS attack and they are actually working (doing what exactly?) restoring the service, and you can chose to believe the devs who usually say things without backing it up, and they have a long history doing that. Or maybe it's something else, but you can chose to believe anything. The fact is, that the game doesn't work, and we can't access the servers. So some of you can come here praising them for the hard work they do, even if you don't know at all if they even do anything on that side While others simply rage about it, and start childish arguments around here. The point is, no matter what you do or what you believe, we just have to wait it out PluushPuussy, Greyzon, CatherineMaxwell and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) DDoS attacks can last anywhere from minutes to days. Or they last 24 hours, stop, wait a few days and attack again. Even if the DDoS attacks have stopped it still makes sense to work on the servers and client to take preventative measures, otherwise in a few days we will just have the exact same situation. I would prefer the servers stay offline for longer with a more long term fix than just rushing the game back as soon as the DDoS attacks stop momentarily. Also, the changes to the server may also require a patch for the game so that the game works with the new server config, so there are many factors to consider. I can only hope that the wait is worth it and the game is more resilient to future DDoS attacks, which will only get more frequent as the game grows in popularity and becomes a bigger target. Also, keep in mind, 3DX is a smallΒ development team. They donβt have 24/7 server admins who gets paid $100kβs a year whose sole job it is to keep the likes of Microsoft and Sony up and running. Edited May 17, 2020 by Mulan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaWulf Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Cruna said: It's everyone's best guess, what is actually happening. The only fact is that the service is disrupted for one reason or another. It's a DDOS attack and they are actually working (doing what exactly?) restoring the service, and you can chose to believe the devs who usually say things without backing it up, and they have a long history doing that. Or maybe it's something else, but you can chose to believe anything. The fact is, that the game doesn't work, and we can't access the servers. So some of you can come here praising them for the hard work they do, even if you don't know at all if they even do anything on that side While others simply rage about it, and start childish arguments around here. The point is, no matter what you do or what you believe, we just have to wait it out FINDS THIS TO BE THE BEST ANSWER SO FAR...NO ONE REALLY KNOWS ANYTHING.....SO WE WAIT IT OUT Frane, PERL and MeiLing 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davi Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mulan said: DDoS attacks can last anywhere from minutes to days. Or they last 24 hours, stop, wait a few days and attack again. Even if the DDoS attacks have stopped it still makes sense to work on the servers and client to take preventative measures, otherwise in a few days we will just have the exact same situation. I would prefer the servers stay offline for longer with a more long term fix than just rushing the game back as soon as the DDoS attacks stop momentarily. Also, the changes to the server may also require a patch for the game so that the game works with the new server config, so there are many factors to consider. I can only hope that the wait is worth it and the game is more resilient to future DDoS attacks, which will only get more frequent as the game grows in popularity and becomes a bigger target. Also, keep in mind, 3DX is a smallΒ development team. They donβt have 24/7 server admins who gets paid $100kβs a year whose sole job it is to keep the likes of Microsoft and Sony up and running. Agree totally Mulan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierrousss Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) hmmm not sure its a DDOS attack. DDOS attacks programs are not able to shut off an IP adress for days. only some hours max. i think they messed up something in their server, and telling us its a DDOSΒ Β (Also, Lisa would not have mentioned remboursement in the discord, if she expect server to be down for only short time^^) Edited May 17, 2020 by Pierrousss Andaislu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinn Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 To add to my previous post.... it could be several days to a week because there is only so much the devs can do about this. There are probably only two resolutions.... 1. the attacker stops attacking maybe because they ran out of money to pay for the DDOS attack (see my previous post) 2. the devs front-end the game server with Cloudflare (or another CDN) like they have already done with the this forum site (if you haven't noticed). This may take an update to the game client which means we might all have to re-download the client if they move the game serer behind the cloudflare service. Success breeds visibility.... and visibility breeds enemies. chirp-chirp tweet-tweet Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyAb Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Playstation Network's DDos last 2 months, just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruna Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, DannyAb said: Playstation Network's DDos last 2 months, just saying... Playstation Network doesn't die from that. they have billions in their pocket. 3dxchat would be dead, gone and forgotten from something similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineMaxwell Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, DannyAb said: Playstation Network's DDos last 2 months, just saying... Thatβs not what I want to hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyAb Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathium Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I just find it ridiculous someone would pay money to DDoS 3dxchat, like what a lifeless troll, they could ddos pornhub and make it to the news, but 3dx is NOT that popular to even bother with it. Astariel, BlkMagicStic and Pierrousss 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyAb Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Leathium said: I just find it ridiculous someone would pay money to DDoS 3dxchat, like what a lifeless troll, they could ddos pornhub and make it to the news, but 3dx is NOT that popular to even bother with it. There is a guy called ERP Exposure in Swtor, that just exposes club guilds xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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