Feuermond Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Publishing a sexual encounter with someone without their knowledge or consent would certainly qualify as a tort called publication of private facts. Copyright is handled a bit different here, a simple text in a chat is rated not to have enough content for being copyrighted but maybe the whole chat can have. From this point the streaming could (I say "could" not "is") be legal here. Another thing is publishing a private communication without I was asked and so did not agree to it, that's for sure against law and personal I rate it a reason for setting a new ignore if I get aware of it though somehow. What I can conclude is that we got permission from Gizmo to stream 3DX content to Plexstorm and I think my ava is not anything private about me because that's simply the game's graphics and the copright of the game's graphics is not to me unlesse I got permission, still; the text in the chat is private. 3DX can promote the streaming if they want, they do not publish private conversations that's the one who stremas does and if it is against law or not depends on the country in which he/she is located. Thanks for getting an eye on that side of the story, Sputnik. PS: I rate 3DX on bug quota and new actions my ava can do, not on passive world editor items and not on promotion issues like Instagram or Plexstorm. Just to mention it. NiceKati, Jada Sinns, Achroi and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodin Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Dev`s...you let us vote for a pose editor but not for our privacy ? It is a no go ...and fuck me.... Achroi, NiceKati, Lovers and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lovers Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Copyright is handled a bit different here, a simple text in a chat is rated not to have enough content for being copyrighted but maybe the whole chat can have. From this point the streaming could (I say "could" not "is") be legal here. Another thing is publishing a private communication without I was asked and so did not agree to it, that's for sure against law and personal I rate it a reason for setting a new ignore if I get aware of it though somehow. What I can conclude is that we got permission from Gizmo to stream 3DX content to Plexstorm and I think my ava is not anything private about me because that's simply the game's graphics and the copright of the game's graphics is not to me unlesse I got permission, still; the text in the chat is private. 3DX can promote the streaming if they want, they do not publish private conversations that's the one who stremas does and if it is against law or not depends on the country in which he/she is located. Thanks for getting an eye on that side of the story, Sputnik. Hi thanks for your input .... The point is 3DXChat sell into many different nations and they are promoting the use of Private and possibly copyrighted material ... I am trying to refrain from getting into the nitty gritty. BUT ..... There is a big difference from private people copying stuff, posting screenshots/videos/etc, than a business actively promoting the use of copyrighted and Private material of its customers. I see nowhere in anything I signed with 3DXchat that stated 3DXChat could use or promote the use of my Private communications to other memebers with third parties. I may be wrong and missed it in the small print? But the legal aspect aside ... has 3DXchat actually thought about what they are doing? JimStevens, JasminaF, Skyylar and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliehotass Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Ummm so ah cant like post a screenshot here of someones pm to me, say abusing me coz ah wont accept their cold invite and show their Av and name so peeps can see this person is an acehole, but someone can stream me and everyting ah say and do in tha game to thousands of others? BAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! OMG!! Lovers, MurphyEsquire, JasminaF and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feuermond Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Dev`s...you let us vote for a pose editor but not for our privacy ? It is a no go ...But the legal aspect aside ... has 3DXchat actually thought about what they are doing?First I think we need to state out the technical aspect: It is not 3DX releasing itself to Plexstorm. You can register at Plexstorm and stream anything that's happening on your screen. So 3DX is a promoter of Plexstorm but not a hoster for or to that service. They can let us vote for privacy but in fact cannot do anything on it except stopping the promotion. So again: 3DX does not use our private communication in any way. It is me who does so when I start to stream and that is not regarding 3DX only but any Chat, Mail or whatever type of communication. The Plexstorm or whatever stream service has technical nothing to do with 3DX or any other communication platform. The stream service like my radio streaming does only publish what I send, not what any server sends, it only streams and publishes things happening on my machine. What you can consider is to blame Gizmo for not stating the privacy thing out; that you should ask a private partner for permission or so but 3DX does not really do not acceptable things. On the other hand: This is a game for adults, so why should Gizmo need to warn you about legal issues? You are adult and can do sexgames, so be grown enough too to know your things about law and ethics. JimStevens, Beeatrice, Achroi and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feuermond Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Ummm so ah cant like post a screenshot here of someones pm to me, say abusing me coz No, you cannot post to 1000 of people, but you can report it to 3DX or to your national police. Jada Sinns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovers Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 First I think we need to state out the technical aspect: It is not 3DX releasing itself to Plexstorm. You can register at Plexstorm and stream anything that's happening on your screen. There is a big difference to an individual finding Plexstorm and streaming copyright material, than 3DXChat actively promoting it. 3DXchat may not be the streaming service, but they have indirectly/directly granted Plexstorm permission to stream their copyright material, which includes their members personal communications. Had 3DXchat been actively protecting our personal communications they could have issued a Take down order, as 3DXchat graphics is copyrighted in itself. Plexstorm would have taken down the odd 3DXchat stream rather than gamble on 3DXchat taking further action. But they have publicly endorsed the service and the streaming of our personal communications. So 3DXchat has burnt the option to protect our communications .... we and our personal communications are now at the mercy of any idiot on 3DXchat that wants to hurt another member. Yes you can report the matter as an individual, after the damage is done ..... but we pay 3DXchat to protect our personal communications and information, not to abuse it for advertisment purposes Ullubu, CrazzyLuv, Kisha and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feuermond Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3DXchat may not be the streaming service, but they have indirectly granted Plexstorm permission to stream their copyright material, which includes their members personal communications. Nope, they have granted right to us to stream 3DX content via Plexstorm. Plexstrom does not need any permission from 3DX. Plexstorm only spreads the streams from us and can refer to that the streaming source, we, have the right to stream. Maybe 3DX and Plexstorm have a kind of win-win agreement but in fact that does not have any effect on the copyright situation: The stream source is the user, my machine, neither 3DX is the source nor Plexstorm, it is the end user, the 3DX gamer. The gamer needs the right to stream and with starting this thread we can assume for sure Gizmo has granted that right to us: Stream 3DX via Plexstorm. He has NOT granted any streaming right via other services. He has NOT granted any right to Plexstorm. Anyway a worth discussion to get some people aware of privacy and legal as well as ethic impacts because the problem is now promoted but in fact has existed already before, thank you Rodin, JimStevens and Jada Sinns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliehotass Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 So ah could go to one of these Rape Rooms and stream everyone, their names, profiles, actions, and chat and show lots of peeps who choose to watch what goes on in 3DX. Hmmmm they may have real pics of themselves in their Profiles and may get seen bah someone they know viewing tha stream, eets possible ah guess, or bah anyone who could be law enforcement, or any nutjob ah guess and everyone gets to see that 3DX has Rape Rooms LOL oh if they watch that is. Ah also wonder if we can stream tha forum ie if ah streamed me reading posts in tha forum perhaps. Oh Sheeshers cant imagine anyting bad happnin from this. MurphyEsquire, CrazzyLuv, Leeloo and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovers Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Nope, they have granted right to us to stream 3DX content via Plexstorm. Plexstrom does not need any permission from 3DX. Plexstorm only spreads the streams from us and can refer to that the streaming source, we, have the right to stream. Mmmm, maybe you should look at the European Court of Justice ruling on Pirate Bay ... And Pirate Bays failed argument that they only made the trackers available and not the copyright material. But as you say, Gizmo has granted members the right to stream private messages .... He has broken our trust .... PM is the same as email and both are private and protected in various ways .... If 3DXchat haven't got a signed agreement that they can share our PMs, they had no right to grant anyone the right to stream them .... The clue is in the name PM ... Private Message .... Personal message Feuermond, Rodin, CrazzyLuv and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feuermond Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Mmmm, maybe you should look at the European Court of Justice ruling on Pirate Bay ... And Pirate Bays failed argument that they only made the trackers available and not the copyright material. Correct, but maybe you should know that against the USA in Europe we do not have that system of precedent, the next case can be judged otherwise. And even if so it means priate bay has to be down in the EU but not elsewhere. EU as well as the USA only think their laws have to be accpeted from the whole world. But as you say, Gizmo has granted members the right to stream private messages .... He has broken our trust .... He did but if that's breaking our thrust everybody my judge on for himself/herself. PM is the same as email and both are private and protected in various ways .... I completly agree on that one If 3DXchat haven't got a signed agreement that they can share our PMs, they had no right to grant anyone the right to stream them .... Again: They do not share our PM, a user that streams will do it. The clue is in the name PM ... Private Message .... Personal message Yes Anyway guys: If 3DX promotes or not, anybody can spread around anything you say or do at any time. Beware of that before you put real photos of you into your profile. Or do you not lock your car because stealing is forbidden? Gizmo does not promote using foreign cars, so it is safe, huh? Jada Sinns, XenophiliusLovegood, JimStevens and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovers Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Yes you are correct there is no official doctrine of precedent in EU law ... as it was an imperative that the courts of first and last instance that were bound by treaties could have the power to depart from earlier decisions ... however case-law is the cornerstone of EU law. NiceKati 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I understand the value of allowing this to happen to promote new sales. Perhaps there is a suitable compromise. Perhaps a PlexStorm room should be set-up (with the help of Gizmo) with a warning sign at its entrance that anything in this room can be broadcasted live on a streaming service. It would render anything that happens in that room as ' use at your own risk '. JasminaF, MariposaB, Nikki and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovers Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I understand the value of allowing this to happen to promote new sales. Perhaps there is a suitable compromise. Perhaps a PlexStorm room should be set-up (with the help of Gizmo) with a warning sign at its entrance that anything in this room can be broadcasted live on a streaming service. It would render anything that happens in that room as use at your own risk. Actually a good idea .... nothing wrong with broadcasting sex sessions if all parties are aware .... the damage that can be done to a person when that person is unaware they are being streamed should be obvious to any decent person .... NiceKati, VatikanO, Galenguab and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyylar Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 This development is enough for me to reconsider my commitment to the community.... It's bad enough that people are putting this stuff on YouTube and other video sites. I would never consent to being put on one of those sites. If I found myself on a YouTube video I would be contacting the owner of the video and requesting its removal, followed immediately by a full out ignore. This, we would have no control over at all! This violates my privacy, values and principles.... It should be our decision if and when, and most importantly who is watching us, not all of us want to be porn stars! I do not consent to being live streamed... AT ANY TIME!! MurphyEsquire, Lovers, Takisa and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeloo Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Like skyylar said , I do not consent to being live streamed at any time!! Rodin, JasminaF, NiceKati and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyra Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I don't like that development either. I don't want to be recorded and even had the developers remove pictures of me from instagram. They should realy ask first... CrazzyLuv, Lovers, Skyylar and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiceKati Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 ... and this is valid for me, too: I do not consent to being live streamed... AT ANY TIME!! Rodin, luvnme, Eriksolo and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisha Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 In most states in America it is ILLEGAL to video record anyone without their permission, how is this any different??? You say well this is just a game not real people, I say bullshit!! privacy is privacy whether you are in the flesh or a freaking avi. I gaurantee you this will only drive MORE PEOPLE AWAY from 3dx than it will draw to 3dx. There are already to many people here hiding behind multuple avis AND accounts trying their damndest to catch someone cheating on their mate or just plan setting out to embarrass other users here. WTF 3DX!!! This is so wrong on so many levels for you to promote AND encourage this type of behavior. You did NOTHING to stop Pandora from revealing everyones alts here you did NOTHING to stop people from stealing others rooms here and posting them as their own. Whats next???? Are you going to give out everyone name and home addresses??? WAKE THE FUCK UP 3DX!!!! You are supose to be protecting your members here NOT feeding us to the wolves..... DaniEstrella, Ullubu, Cyra and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovers Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I gaurantee you this will only drive MORE PEOPLE AWAY from 3dx than it will draw to 3dx. Great post /// but the above particularly struck me .... If I saw this on Plexstorm and knew 3DXchat promoted the streaming of its members sex sessions and their private conversations without their knowledge or consent, I would never have joined 3dxchat ... And I think you are right, this will frighten more people away than what it will attract MurphyEsquire, NiceKati, Takisa and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodin Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 First I think we need to state out the technical aspect: It is not 3DX releasing itself to Plexstorm. You can register at Plexstorm and stream anything that's happening on your screen. So 3DX is a promoter of Plexstorm but not a hoster for or to that service. They can let us vote for privacy but in fact cannot do anything on it except stopping the promotion./quote] Thanks for your clear explanations here !SexGameDevil and 3DXChat are copyrighted Trademarks and Plexstorm has the permission to use 3DXChat for streaming! When this is correct then: PRIVACY POLICY We will NEVER give away or sell your information. So for me this is a give away of my information! My profile,name,age,location,time,lc/wc/pc/gc.... Correct me all if Iam wrong....but this is my privacy and this must be protected from all others who are not in the game! Cyra, NiceKati, Ullubu and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovers Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 PRIVACY POLICY We will NEVER give away or sell your information. This is an excellent point Rodin, CrazzyLuv, Ullubu and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovers Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Lets be clear here .... this is not useful for showing your building or how to build etc ... this is live streaming for the entertainment of others that can comment on the action, private comments you are unknowingly performing and PMing in a live stream. So you go and have sex unaware of the fact that your partner is streaming you to entertain others to earn "XPS". They can get "XPS" it appears from tips from the audience that can comment on the action live. So you think you are having a mutually enjoyable sex session and idiots watching can be commenting to your partner, "make him/her grunt like a pig and I will give you x amount of XPS" ... And you grunt for the amusement of some idiots laughing at you (just an off the cuff example, add you own nightmare here). And I am sure some will record any embarrassing situations you are unknowingly recorded doing. Probably passed around 3dxchat for your further embarrasment. Oh and its promoted by the people you pay to keep your privacy JimStevens, JasminaF, Kisha and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliehotass Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Imagine how Hawess would use this feature and bah tha way ah seen him back in game as MultiSide and still toxic as eva ROFL Lovers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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