Pose Editor?

[MeiLing]

The time has come for Gizmo to tell us more about this.

[robo]

I Voted No, but Yes Of course I want more poses, but I am horrible when it comes to using the present world builder, and easily get bored with it..Also Not going to be happy with shitty Quality..poses..and 3d villa sure has it, however it is not designed for massive user interaction between real partners, it can only really be used individually with your fantasy bot partner from what I am told.I agree We need real true info before we can make a true descision..I also think this should be left to the Devs, not to the players, I for one just want to enjoy all the fantasy and fun, the game can offer. Poses made by players, may not flow properly together, and lack of talent at desinging poses to use with others, may make some players more popular then others, to share and in my view would lead to more drama, and disruption of enjoying the game then one would like.

[TashaTight]

All the content though is tied to user rooms and as long as that's the case its not like anyone is really making anything for 3DX as a whole even if it can get hacked. That's part of the reason that its likely that poses created in the poses editor will be tired to rooms. I know a lot of people who want all the poses to be open to everyone without wanting to contribute or compensate the creators of said work but beyond the fact that it will be just to time consuming to review all the poses there are other reasons why that's a bad idea and this is just one more of those.

 

which again if they end being tied to the room of the creator who hold them to themselves, would only end making the rooms with creators who can actually work the pose editor well only rooms visited. If they don't have the money to just hire one the patreon animators for commissioned pose work or some other freelance animator for it.

 

 

I think people who make their own content, and don't share it with the community are making it for themselves for their own reasons, and mostly for their own benefit one way or the other. 3DX and the community might benefit from that, but only as a side effect. I have had a few rooms and I also have see how other room owners benefit from opening rooms so I know that it does provide quite a few connections and exposure if you have a popular room. That might not matter to some people it doesn't really to me but it does for others. 

 

More than likely so. Right now I think it's mostly a hand full of people who are sharing their world editor room files, would assume pose editor work is not going to be much different assuming it is possible to share at all and not tied into your world editor resources exclusively.

[Heden]

I don't think any poses should be disabled in any room. If poses are well classified and knowing people could get banned from rooms if they do not respect room rules, very few people will do "bad" pose in "bad" locations in room. Even now, we do not see a lot of sex in RP rooms (most players who want to do sex poses go to BBC/Gangbang/Sluts/etc rooms)...

 

Players should be free to do anything they want at their own risk. Having one or more signs in room explaining rules (or just in title as of now) is enough to tell what is authorized or not. People tend to respect that already, that will be even more respected in the future when we'll be able to kick and ban players from our room.

 

I also think making poses binded to worlds is a good thing so nobody we'll get flooded by "bad" or "unwanted" poses... If someone wants a pose from a author, just visit his/her room and pay him some xgolds to get the pose in your "inventory".

 

Of course, a new pose MUST be tagged with right tags (like "anal", "bdsm", etc.) and each tag should be a tab in pose selector menu. Players should also be able to add or remove tags from the pose they get from others.

[☙𝔼𝕩❧]

I think some people are thinking that they will just make a few clicks and crank out new poses and this makes me giggle.

In the "pose editor" where I was able to try, this is not difficult . -giggles-

[Rodin]

maybe I was not clear enough with my post before!

 

we have here talented people who are able to create animations for sure! So If someone is willing and able to make animations with this pose editor...great ..! but they must be proofed from the dev`s first for quality and then be released of course for all !

[JenC]

I would not like them tied to rooms, I want to make lots of them so everyone can use them when and where they like. But if they are, I will redo all my rooms with all the poses so at least most can get to use them.

[MeiLing]

 

maybe I was not clear enough with my post before!

 

we have here talented people who are able to create animations for sure! So If someone is willing and able to make animations with this pose editor...great ..! but they must be proofed from the dev`s first for quality and then be released of course for all !

 

 

Avi are smooth for they use human sensor. (real human in motion). You can't do this. The best you can have is what Sexvilla does. Or use technology so expensive and few computers support them. So the choice is:

 

Lower quality and lot of poses

Quality and less poses

 

My choice is quality because of the gameplay.

[Riela]

I don't think any poses should be disabled in any room. If poses are well classified and knowing people could get banned from rooms if they do not respect room rules, very few people will do "bad" pose in "bad" locations in room. Even now, we do not see a lot of sex in RP rooms (most players who want to do sex poses go to BBC/Gangbang/Sluts/etc rooms)...

 

Players should be free to do anything they want at their own risk. Having one or more signs in room explaining rules (or just in title as of now) is enough to tell what is authorized or not. People tend to respect that already, that will be even more respected in the future when we'll be able to kick and ban players from our room.

 

I also think making poses binded to worlds is a good thing so nobody we'll get flooded by "bad" or "unwanted" poses... If someone wants a pose from a author, just visit his/her room and pay him some xgolds to get the pose in your "inventory".

 

Of course, a new pose MUST be tagged with right tags (like "anal", "bdsm", etc.) and each tag should be a tab in pose selector menu. Players should also be able to add or remove tags from the pose they get from others.

Nope fuck paid poses. Sub price is high enough. I know that people here could use some motivation, but I don't want F2P economy in one of priciest games in the world. 

So yeah no paying xgold for poses, clothes, furnitures etc. It's really bad idea that only leads for users to spent more money in the game in long run, separates people between poor / rich, and restrict people choices.

This game cost 25 euro / month in my country not everyone can afford to buy yearly deal or plan to be here a year to get enough from the discount. 25 / month is pricier than sub of Final Fantasy 14 / World of Warcraf together each month. 

 

Let's not turn this into Achat where people are paid for sex cus they own poses you don't.

[Wizard]

i think that is not neccesary to restrict any poses. they can be downloaded and shared just like the lego rooms.

the solution is only the partners or group chat participans can see the pose they are doing, other players just see they are slowdancing or something similar.

[Ceres]

Avi are smooth for they use human sensor. (real human in motion). You can't do this. 

 

Ugh.  This again?

 

"Human sensor"?  What does that even mean?  Do you think the devs hire porn actors and scan their sex movements in a laser-equipped studio to make a 3d digital map that they upload into a supercomputer?     Somehow I doubt that.  Unity has an animator component.

 

And how do you know what the new hypothetical pose editor can and can't do.  It doesn't even exist yet.  Are you from the future?  If so, can you please PM me some upcoming winning lottery numbers?  

 

What you're saying (once again) directly contradicts what Goose says.  Maybe someone with actual knowledge (like THX) can opine what is possible or impossible. 

 

Actually .... he already has.  

[THX]

I don't think any poses should be disabled in any room. If poses are well classified and knowing people could get banned from rooms if they do not respect room rules, very few people will do "bad" pose in "bad" locations in room. Even now, we do not see a lot of sex in RP rooms (most players who want to do sex poses go to BBC/Gangbang/Sluts/etc rooms)...

 

Players should be free to do anything they want at their own risk. Having one or more signs in room explaining rules (or just in title as of now) is enough to tell what is authorized or not. People tend to respect that already, that will be even more respected in the future when we'll be able to kick and ban players from our room.

 

I also think making poses binded to worlds is a good thing so nobody we'll get flooded by "bad" or "unwanted" poses... If someone wants a pose from a author, just visit his/her room and pay him some xgolds to get the pose in your "inventory".

 

Of course, a new pose MUST be tagged with right tags (like "anal", "bdsm", etc.) and each tag should be a tab in pose selector menu. Players should also be able to add or remove tags from the pose they get from others.

The XGold idea is an interesting idea. It would mimic a micro economy but since you get it free daily everyone still gets some. If you want more and don't want to wait, the Dev's could make money off the purchase of those choosing to buy more xGold.

 

Most people that create content like to feel rewarded in some way. We see those who try to use gifts as currency to be a Working Girl/Guy. XGOLD would create a motivation to be a successful creator reimbursed for their service. It is an interesting idea that caters to human nature.

 

3DXChat is the most affordable of the next Gen 'Adult Games.' Without community created content that comes quickly daily, it will have a difficult time competing with worlds like Sansar and RLC2 that will have very high quality everything for a price.

 

I hope Gizmo decides soon and states the direction of what can and can't be done. 8.5 customers out of 10 want the editor. There are questions such as:

 

Will invite system be expanded beyond three?

 

Can props be added to the pose for those wanting toys?

 

Can props be added to the poses for the BDSM crew?

 

Will the pose editor include pole dance? Lap Dance? Greeting poses? (Hugs, waves, greetings, non sexual?)

 

What is possible to do with the editor and what are the limitation?

 

 

 

Let's get these editors made: World Editor, Pose Editor, Clothing Editor and get creating!!!

[THX]

Ugh. This again?

 

"Human sensor"? What does that even mean? Do you think the devs hire porn actors and scan their sex movements in a laser-equipped studio to make a 3d digital map that they upload into a supercomputer? Somehow I doubt that. Unity has an animator component.

 

And how do you know what the new hypothetical pose editor can and can't do. It doesn't even exist yet. Are you from the future? If so, can you please PM me some upcoming winning lottery numbers?

 

What you're saying (once again) directly contradicts what Goose says. Maybe someone with actual knowledge (like THX) can opine what is possible or impossible.

 

Actually .... he already has.

 

RLC2 scans actual porn stars having sex and pole dancing and they then become in game animations. It is Very expensive. The process is called 'MoCap" (Motion Capture). The best motion capture uses dozens of cameras all filming at one time the event. The best can cost several thousand dollars a minute. Yes, a minute.

[JenC]

The XGold idea is an interesting idea. It would mimic a micro economy but since you get it free daily everyone still gets some. If you want more and don't want to wait, the Dev's could make money off the purchase of those choosing to buy more xGold.

 

Most people that create content like to feel rewarded in some way. We see those who try to use gifts as currency to be a Working Girl/Guy. XGOLD would create a motivation to be a successful creator reimbursed for their service. It is an interesting idea that caters to human nature.

 

3DXChat is the most affordable of the next Gen 'Adult Games.' Without community created content that comes quickly daily, it will have a difficult time competing with worlds like Sansar and RLC2 that will have very high quality everything for a price.

 

I hope Gizmo decides soon and states the direction of what can and can't be done. 8.5 customers out of 10 want the editor. There are questions such as:

 

Will invite system be expanded beyond three?

 

Can props be added to the pose for those wanting toys?

 

Can props be added to the poses for the BDSM crew?

 

Will the pose editor include pole dance? Lap Dance? Greeting poses? (Hugs, waves, greetings, non sexual?)

 

What is possible to do with the editor and what are the limitation?

 

 

 

Let's get these editors made: World Editor, Pose Editor, Clothing Editor and get creating!!!

I would probably be hated as I wouldnt charge anything. 

So many people want more animation poses, including me. I want to be able to do this without the mucking about we have to do now to get it.

[THX]

I would probably be hated as I wouldnt charge anything. 

So many people want more animation poses, including me. I want to be able to do this without the mucking about we have to do now to get it.

I doubt they will create that system (xgold for poses or clothing) but if they did you could charge like 1 xgold or nothing.

 

I give tons of stuff for free away. I used to make a free outfit for major holidays like valentine's day, easter etc, and many others did also.

 

I'd love to see that system here, but I think the likely hood slim.

[Camden]

Btw I am really curious maybe someone with more 3D experience could give me a better answer.

 

I assume they won't let us export skeletons / bones right?

If they do we could just rip 3DX and someone who does blender / SFM porn etc could just make similar if not better game with their assets no?

 

On the other hand, I really doubt that with current controls in 3DX the game editor would be capable of achieving fluid / smooth animations and movements like proper 3D software would and if it was possible it would take lot more work than lets say blender or maya or SFM.

 

 

The last point I want to make, Will the subscription go down in price?

Sure you say we pay for access but if you tell people "Well you do all work for now and there are no more updates on our side" I wonder how well will that sit with current playerbase, I already know of many who left because of the "lack of content". 

But I think if you give us cloth / sex / world editor asking 25 euro / month  for an "access" is bit too much new people don't know there's xmas 50% off deal or won't pay 12 months sub just to check the game.

This last paragraph. Yup, yup, yup. I asked that same question. It just seems like there will be less and less official content with this. It will mostly be user based. Yet you’ll pay to create your own content.

[Riela]

The XGold idea is an interesting idea. It would mimic a micro economy but since you get it free daily everyone still gets some. If you want more and don't want to wait, the Dev's could make money off the purchase of those choosing to buy more xGold.

 

Most people that create content like to feel rewarded in some way. We see those who try to use gifts as currency to be a Working Girl/Guy. XGOLD would create a motivation to be a successful creator reimbursed for their service. It is an interesting idea that caters to human nature.

 

3DXChat is the most affordable of the next Gen 'Adult Games.' Without community created content that comes quickly daily, it will have a difficult time competing with worlds like Sansar and RLC2 that will have very high quality everything for a price.

 

I hope Gizmo decides soon and states the direction of what can and can't be done. 8.5 customers out of 10 want the editor. There are questions such as:

 

Will invite system be expanded beyond three?

 

Can props be added to the pose for those wanting toys?

 

Can props be added to the poses for the BDSM crew?

 

Will the pose editor include pole dance? Lap Dance? Greeting poses? (Hugs, waves, greetings, non sexual?)

 

What is possible to do with the editor and what are the limitation?

 

 

 

Let's get these editors made: World Editor, Pose Editor, Clothing Editor and get creating!!!

This xgold idea just doesn't work.

I played many free 2 play games that didn't had 25/ month sub and instead used micro transactions. Microtransactions are just cancer no way about it and they are definitively not micro.

 

300 xgold a day would be nothing.

You know what would happen in 3DX if they allowed "micro economy"?

 

Rings, necklaces, braclets etc - 1000 to 1500 xgold.

Clothes from simple 1500 to complex dresses 3 500 / 5000 xgold per piece.

Sex poses 5000 - 15000 xgold.

 

The daily 300 gold would feel like nothing it's same as in MMOs log each day to get irrelevant amount of currency and in whole month you might afford one of shittier things in premium store. Well if you log daily... *points just to about any F2P mmo game*

This kind of "economy" as you speak of is designed to suck money out of players. IT will never be fair model.

Unfortunately subscription model is the only fair model that guarantees proper updates that are aimed towards everyone (see any paid mmo) devs here didn't got memo yet.

 

I never seen online game with this kind of economy that was cheap and fair towards everyone, big bilion $ companies failed, what makes you think 3DX would get it right?

 

And then people saying oh but I would share poses for free or clothes. Well how do we do you are one of the people who will make QUALITY ones. What if you share but rest of the people will slap 10 000 xgold tag on pose.

We also know this game doesn't have proper security, People would rip off poses from others and try to resell them. Causing lots of drama and hate around.

 

Honestly if they added xgold economy with poses etc I would quit, I know many others who would too.

I know people who spent 1 000 $ +on SL and similar games, we don't need that here.  I seen people drop 10 000 on cheap mobile MMOs to get stuff and they still didn't unlocked everything.

Let everyone have fair ground instead of people who can afford to spent more money that's healthy on a game.

[THX]

Of course micro economies work. They have been working 10 years plus in RLC and SL. That's one of the reasons those ancient worlds are stI'll around.

 

First of all, no one has a gun to anyone's head to buy anything. That is entirely choice. Eveyone in both those micro economies have the same ability to make real money if they take the time to learn and create. Unlike Xgold, lindens and Rays can be converted and cashed out as real money. There are people in those worlds who's RL job is making content for sale. Some made in excess of $50,000 US a year through their hard work. It's a lot of work and time and market forces of supply and demand dictate costs of items. You want to make the most? Well, your content better be better than anyone elses. There is powerful motivation to create content.

 

Unlike those worlds, xgold has no real value. It cannot be converted to real money. It's a token economy. The only worth is in game. There isn't much to spend it on. Additionally, eveyone earns a good bit each time you log in. If left to market forces, after a period of time costs would stablize. That is market force. If someone wants to spend real money and buy additional content because they are envious of others, or impatient - knock yourself out. The Dev's can profit off that.

 

There is no doubt it can work. Gifts, marriages, divorces, profiles are already part of the token economy. It already exists and works. This is indisputable.

[Riela]

Of course micro economies work. They have been working 10 years plus in RLC and SL. That's one of the reasons those ancient worlds are stI'll around.

 

First of all, no one has a gun to anyone's head to buy anything. That is entirely choice. Eveyone in both those micro economies have the same ability to make real money if they take the time to learn and create. Unlike Xgold, lindens and Rays can be converted and cashed out as real money. There are people in those worlds who's RL job is making content for sale. Some made in excess of $50,000 US a year through their hard work. It's a lot of work and time and market forces of supply and demand dictate costs of items. You want to make the most? Well, your content better be better than anyone elses. There is powerful motivation to create content.

 

Unlike those worlds, xgold has no real value. It cannot be converted to real money. It's a token economy. The only worth is in game. There isn't much to spend it on. Additionally, eveyone earns a good bit each time you log in.

 

There is no doubt it can work. Gifts, marriages, divorces, profiles are already part of the token economy. It already exists and works. This is indisputable.

Ehm

You just proven my point that it doesn't work. The only thing it works is feeding few mouths while sucking money from players.

 

SL have things that costs hundreds in terms of $.

Can everyone afford it? Nope >  unfair.

 

It's not my desire or goal to make 3 or 10 people out of 50 000 to make living making things for 3DX. I am here paying large amount of monthly fee to have access for everything.

I don't give a shit that 5 or 10 people can make living making props in other game. I was talking about US as players having way more limited access if this turns to "SL economy" 

 

Our xgold is for little gifts, gallery profiles that are impossible to buy after 9 with the price tag and marriages. Irrelevant little things. 

[THX]

I proved the point it does indeed work. You just admired it does because peopLe ARE spending money there.

 

Just because you want something, doesn't mean you should get it at a whim.

 

I also proved that a token economy exists here and works. You also just admited it does.

 

My guess is you like to buy lots of alts and don't want to be limited from doing that. Is that the case? Is thst the real issue for you? Most people have so much xgold thry don't know what to do with it.

[Riela]

I proved the point it does indeed work. You just admired it does because peopLe ARE spending money there.

 

Just because you want something, doesn't mean you should get it at a whim.

25 / Month makes this one of most expensive games in world, if not most expensive subscription game. 

 

Why do you have need to change this game into a model where people have to pay way more than 25 / month to get things? 

 

 

And the fuck is with your last sentence?

Just because I want something doesn't mean I should get it? Isn't that what you fucking want? Change 3DX to be more expensive for everyone because you got either spare cash to drop 100 - 15000$ / month on this game. Or you are one of people who can't wait to sell shit here?

We and yes I speak for many, we don't want locked content here that we can't afford. Go to SL or elsewhere if you like it. Or to one of the mobile MMOs that will love another whale dropping up 10 000$ to open lootboxes there. 

[THX]

Your like talking to a brick wall.

 

Xgold has no value outside the game.

 

Your point is irrelevent.

[Riela]

Your like talking to a brick wall.

 

Xgold has no value outside the game.

 

Your point is irrelevent.

See word value.

As long as it can get purchased for money it got value. Just because it pity dripped to you each day doesn't mean it doesn't have value.

[THX]

You have no arguement. No one is forcing you to buy anything extra. It is all buy choice and are options that already exist.

 

Your arguement is invalid.

[Riela]

You have no arguement. No one is forcing you to buy anything extra. It is all buy choice and are options that already exist.

 

Your arguement is invalid.

You are very special kind of boy aren't you? 

You are exactly talking like the huge developers of those free2scam MMOs.

 

No one is forcing you to buy anything extra, you get 300 xgold a day .. what does it matter that new pose will cost 10 - 20 000 xgold you will get there one day, you don't need to buy it.