Pandora Review

[Mar Mohan]

Another way to prevent anything further with the name issue is once the name has been used it can't be used again on another account without contact the Devs with a reason why and proof that you were the account holder of that name.  This would ensure that nothing like a mishap can happen in the future.

[Perimede]

If ID's were dynamic then it doesn't matter if they can be read by other programs, Pandora would just get random profiles to play with and it would take a lot more work to relate them to the actual user account without hacking the 3dxchat database. The alternative is to encrypt the data 3dx works which would slow things down, and would require an extra negotiation stage at log in time.

 

On the other hand I am not a techie person so I could be suggesting total bollocks. It just seems logical to me.

[Mar Mohan]

I should have listened when I was warned about my ex, would have saved me from making that mistake as I was told they did the same to others, but I believe is giving someone the benefit of doubt.  It's nice to get the I told you so.  If I had listened to them, I could have saved myself a few months of bullshit I really didn't need to deal with.  Such is life, to those that have to do that to others, remember this how you act is a reflection of how you'll always be. Stop repeating the process, stop assuming what's written is about you, and most of all have fun and enjoy the game for what it is. I believe that Pandora has come into play in the game because of reasons like this.  I'm not the only one that has had this experience nor will I be the last.  Learn from mistakes it's what makes us grow.

[Xandisweet]

Curious why all of these threads are being turned into some way to bitch about exes. :\ love eachother or not y’all did at one time. So have some dignity and move the fuck on and let them do the same. Sorry to the original post.

[Niblette]

I think that it wouldn't be overly hard to implement some type of account ID rotation. I think it could be done something like this. When the person logs into their account the server will save the previous account ID under a variable lets call it previousAccountID for example. Then the server will be get an account ID from a list of account ID's at random. It then checks to see if that account ID is logged on if it is it gets a new one until it finds one that is not in use. Then it saves the new Account ID to a variable lets call it newAccountID for example. Next there would need to be three list of list each one would be a file which will contain all the block list, all the friends list and, all of the marriage list which would simply be a list of list of the people who are married in the game. The server will then search each list of list and when it finds a match for the previousAccountID it replace it with the newAccountID. Instead of, however it is done now the index of that accounts sub-list on each list of list will be associated with each account as that person friend list, block list, and person they are married to if they are married. Now it may be that those list don't exist now, but it should be not to hard to create a simple program to generate them its something I could do in a few hours and I don't even consider myself much of a programmer. It also should be an idea that would work with their existing code without a lot of programming. It would be a double whammy for Pandora since not only would it stop function in the future once a few accounts have been combined it will become corrupted to the point at its useless for anything. 

 

As far as whether Pandora should exist or not I think it shouldn't, its another question whether alts and account history should be public and honestly at this point I don't really care, but it should be made by the game devs and and not some third party who are making money of of it. I know a lot of people are using it now and its kind of became the normal thing to do but its still against the rules in my opinion.

[Xandisweet]

Quite honestly Pandora is hit and miss as far as good and bad. I never cared to see who had alts, who is really a man playing a woman, or when someone who isn’t on my fl is online. To some it matters and will always find a way to find out typically creating a line of drama along the way. Either way.... yes it is a breech of privacy, yes it can be annoying to those who use alts for GOOD, and yes it probably shouldn’t exist. But it is what it is. Play your way but do it with integrity and when you lie and someone gets upset don’t blame them for being human.

[Mar Mohan]

Sorry excuses.  Well if you think it's always about you then that is the issue.  It's not me it's you.  Grow from that.  I've moved on and NOT everything is about you, you're not the only ex someone has. Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

[Xandisweet]

Does no one use pm’s? also Rob I’m gonna assume that was meant for me.

[KYUSS]

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[Perimede]

I've just come back to this - all quite revealing too.

 

@Samasdf - it sounds like somone you trusted decided to mess you about. It would have been nice if one of your friends had warned you about Pandora's existence.

 

But then there are some people who think it fun to destroy trust in game. I think something does need to give here, the feeling that someone new in game is not actually noob but someone with an axe to grind is slowly destroying the game. Noobs need to be welcomed, maybe have the piss taken out of them a little - but always in a nice way. Without Pandora there are other ways of checking people out, but in the end it is your own personal judgement. To my mind if someone searches for me on Pandora and makes a big issue about it then they immediately place themselves on a par with naked wankers. The information Pandora holds is not actually the issue but the use people make of it - like trying to use it to discredit people. This is the reason for something to happen.

 

But then I suppose if revenues rise steadily there is little incentive to make changes. But that's a different issue that has been looked at several times from different angles. I suspect, though, that nobody has looked seriously at a preferred user profile from a development and martketing standpoint yet.

[Guest Beccie]

Dear 3DXChat Community,

 

Recently on our forum there was a topic about a service which according to the creators, allegedly can hack the 3DXChat Servers Database and collect data of the accounts of our players.

Including old data that has been since deleted.

 

This is not true, they cannot get access to our database. But this service simply collects public data (for example profiles, pictures, gifts).

It seems they just scan the players' profiles every day (maybe even several times a day) and save all of the information collected.

Therefore, you can see the history of the profile changes there. We do not store old account data on our server.

 

I just want to remind you not to use your personal data in game profiles! Pictures, Names etc. Since this data becomes public for all players to view.

 

Also, if you want no one to find your alts, then just create a new account in 3DXChat for a new email.

 

Something here doesn't ring true.

 

If the creators of Pandora don't have access to the 3dx databases, how can they obtain information about players who are registered prior to November 2016 who haven't played since that date? Pandora only accesses information available since November 2016 - why is this date important? Server switch?

 

Surely if Pandora crawls the game like a bot and collects live player information, it would only do so for active players, not those avis which are still registered but dormant?

[Niblette]

There certainty are people who use it just to bother people, and the saving of photos really is a bit intrusive I think. People may delete those for good reasons, and they should not be stored forever. Really its going to keep happening until they do something about it one way or the other. I think that mostly people who use it just want to know peoples alts, so as long as alts are not really hidden I think they should just be open, and part of the profile, since they really are find able in one way or another now. I honestly though don't think it effects new plays much only older ones.

[JessicaX]

26 May 2018, nothing was done with the situation.

The weird thing is that I just heard about this thing called Pandora because I got ousted in the game. It hurt like hell, I feel so violated.

How come we weren't warned that this breach is possible? We're not all followers of this forum so an official email would have been nice.

And the weirder thing is that not once was I warned that alts weren't private. I was under the impression that they were.

I think I'm too shocked to ever get back to this game.

Privacy and Security should have been your utmost priority. Winks and small talk are not enough.

 

You must also take into consideration respect, privacy, and security of everyone else.

 

I'm trying to think of a situation where anyone would use multiple avis in a positive way and be upset about it when they are discovered. I can't think of any. But if i am wrong, i am interested in knowing about such a situation. 

[☙𝔼𝕩❧]

Something like that

maybe someone found more ways,idk.

 

 

A way we can use our characters/alts.

 

In a good way:

 

1. For getting a new sexual experiense. It's not a secret that most people use this game to realize their sexual desires or explore their hidden sides. This is the first and most common reason.

 

2. For testing complicated creations in our World Editor (sofa,bed,chair,etc.).

 

3. For using a single player fun(this one is bad supported by this game,because if you want it as a "group sex", you need to buy one character for 10000 XG).

 

4. For relaxing, afk, walking around locations if you don`t want to be seen by unwanted person for some time.

 

5. For safe learning any language. When your language is done and all mistakes kept on your alt, you will be nice prepared to talk.

 

6. For roleplay, short scenes or long, because if some of your friends or any person will see you, they can broke your play in a second by non-rp talk. It isn`t ok, if roleplay was preparing around  2 hours. 

 

7. For comfortable using worlds(from "WE"="World Editor"). It`s more comfortable if you creating few different worlds and use different characters for switch, without loading from file all the time.

 

8. For different non-roleplay inGame events. It can be anything: fashion show(for example:ModelOne), DJing(DJanyname) and so on.

 

so on,  so on...

 

 

In a bad way.

 

[Twiggy]

Exharan I am pretty sure that not one of those things you have listed there would have had anyone treat the poster in the hurtful way he or she seems to be referring to.

But if someone did I am with you on thinking they have done the poster wrong, but I will admit I have my doubts.

Hmm, "doubt', something that comes up a lot in these forums.

 

Now I am going to say something similar to what you and others use when defending what you believe to be a good excuse for why people can justify doing the wrong thing.

Doubt, it's the Internet, you have to expect doubt, if you don't like it don't play.

Thing is there I actually don't mean it, I don't like anyone feeling they need to leave a game that should be fun for everyone.

But I have gotten a little sick of having, it's the Internet and how things are and if you don't like it leave thrown at me and others in a way where we have to expect to be used and abused.

Because the same goes the other way, it's the Internet and you have to expect doubt.

 

First thing I thought when I read samasdfs post in this thread is I feel he or she has likely done something using alts that has effected others peoples games.

Right or wrong that is the doubt that this game generates.

None of the things in your list has given me any reason to not have that doubt.

 

….Edited to correct where I said the original poster and replaced it with the post I was meant to refer to.

[MeiLing]

/me wonders when we have to pass the purity test to play the game...

[Tlaera]

/me smiles

 

No alts!  No steroids!  No blood doping!  No perfomance enhancing drugs!  No Viagra!  

 

"He told me he could last all night, but he wasn't even wanking!  I learned this when Pandora turned on his laptop's camera without his knowledge!"

"He said he was naked, but he was actually wearing sweats and a TShirt!"

"He PROMISED me that he had BBC, but his TV doesn't get Sherlock!"

"When are we ever going to get back the good old days when the worst thing the men did was play female avatars?"

 

No, I'm not serious...

 

Tlaera

[Niblette]

Can someone please make a gender thread already, so Twiggy has a place to post its time, and no I am not being sarcastic. 

[Perimede]

lmao - don't tempt me Niblette ............................................ /me thinks ................................. how about will the UK government ever remove the VAT on tampons?

[Perimede]

I think I was probably a bit cryptic with my last post here, yesterday. Niblette, the only way to treat your post is with sarcasm. I'm not quite sure why you felt the need to take a swipe at Twiggy, you don't normally post things just for the sake of provoking a response. So I thought, in a fun way, I'd let you, and others, know that there are other people concerned about gender issues round here. They will crop up from time to time because what else is 3dx Chat about but interactions between people, most commonly of, or role playing, different genders. Aren't gender discussions really about getting people to understand each other better? I liked your post because it shows you are aware of such things and can maybe laugh at yourself a little. I hope you see what I've said here in this light.

 

Back to the point of the thread though, and to be serious for a minute - tthe good thing about Pandora is it reduces the opportunity for some people to hide and emotionally mess other people around with their alts. The bad thing is that the people who want mess people around will then use it to discredit, bully, annoy, irritate people who may have had alts for all sorts of reasons. As I've said before, there are other ways of checking people out without using Pandora so the time has come to render Pandora useless - like pretty well everything it can be done if there is sufficient commitment to do it.

 

It could be argued that the devs have a duty of care to their users so should be working towards protecting the user base from bullies, griefers whatever you want to call them. Rendering Pandora impotent could be one step on the way there, as is the eject button for room owners etc. We already have the report function so the devs are aware of the issues.

[☙𝔼𝕩❧]

I think I was probably a bit cryptic with my last post here, yesterday. Niblette, the only way to treat your post is with sarcasm. I'm not quite sure why you felt the need to take a swipe at Twiggy, you don't normally post things just for the sake of provoking a response. So I thought, in a fun way, I'd let you, and others, know that there are other people concerned about gender issues round here. They will crop up from time to time because what else is 3dx Chat about but interactions between people, most commonly of, or role playing, different genders. Aren't gender discussions really about getting people to understand each other better? I liked your post because it shows you are aware of such things and can maybe laugh at yourself a little. I hope you see what I've said here in this light.

 

Back to the point of the thread though, and to be serious for a minute - tthe good thing about Pandora is it reduces the opportunity for some people to hide and emotionally mess other people around with their alts. The bad thing is that the people who want mess people around will then use it to discredit, bully, annoy, irritate people who may have had alts for all sorts of reasons. As I've said before, there are other ways of checking people out without using Pandora so the time has come to render Pandora useless - like pretty well everything it can be done if there is sufficient commitment to do it.

 

It could be argued that the devs have a duty of care to their users so should be working towards protecting the user base from bullies, griefers whatever you want to call them. Rendering Pandora impotent could be one step on the way there, as is the eject button for room owners etc. We already have the report function so the devs are aware of the issues.

As long as there is Pandora, the problem with bad alts is solved, but opened for good alts.

[☙𝔼𝕩❧]

I think I was probably a bit cryptic with my last post here, yesterday. Niblette, the only way to treat your post is with sarcasm. I'm not quite sure why you felt the need to take a swipe at Twiggy, you don't normally post things just for the sake of provoking a response. So I thought, in a fun way, I'd let you, and others, know that there are other people concerned about gender issues round here. They will crop up from time to time because what else is 3dx Chat about but interactions between people, most commonly of, or role playing, different genders. Aren't gender discussions really about getting people to understand each other better? I liked your post because it shows you are aware of such things and can maybe laugh at yourself a little. I hope you see what I've said here in this light.

 

I agree with Niblette and others, cuz every topic about something will become to Twiggy`s problem, so better to create special "alt/gender thread". Before drawing conclusions, try to figure out what Twiggy answered me.

[Twiggy]

I agree with Niblette and others, cuz every topic about something will become to Twiggy`s problem, so better to create special "alt/gender thread". Before drawing conclusions, try to figure out what Twiggy answered me.

 

It's hilarious for you to say that as if you look through this forum, you are in so many topics and I am only in a few.

Plus I think most know why you and a hand full of others try so hard to discredit me, you don't like what I say and they also know the reason you don't like what I say.

I answered your post the way I did because of how you answered Jessicas post, defending the use of alts the way you always do whenever anyone even touches on the subject, and I do mean always.

[Niblette]

I think I was probably a bit cryptic with my last post here, yesterday. Niblette, the only way to treat your post is with sarcasm. I'm not quite sure why you felt the need to take a swipe at Twiggy, you don't normally post things just for the sake of provoking a response. So I thought, in a fun way, I'd let you, and others, know that there are other people concerned about gender issues round here. They will crop up from time to time because what else is 3dx Chat about but interactions between people, most commonly of, or role playing, different genders. Aren't gender discussions really about getting people to understand each other better? I liked your post because it shows you are aware of such things and can maybe laugh at yourself a little. I hope you see what I've said here in this light.

 

Back to the point of the thread though, and to be serious for a minute - tthe good thing about Pandora is it reduces the opportunity for some people to hide and emotionally mess other people around with their alts. The bad thing is that the people who want mess people around will then use it to discredit, bully, annoy, irritate people who may have had alts for all sorts of reasons. As I've said before, there are other ways of checking people out without using Pandora so the time has come to render Pandora useless - like pretty well everything it can be done if there is sufficient commitment to do it.

 

It could be argued that the devs have a duty of care to their users so should be working towards protecting the user base from bullies, griefers whatever you want to call them. Rendering Pandora impotent could be one step on the way there, as is the eject button for room owners etc. We already have the report function so the devs are aware of the issues.

 

I suppose I have been in a bit of a mood lately, and I kind of felt bad about making that post, and I almost didn't. I am not really sure my view on things is that different then hers, but really it might be nice if it was kept in its own thread, since they seem to have a way of being deleted. I do care about gender issues myself, but for me they tend to be things that more directly effect my life there are enough of those as it is. About Pandora I am sure they can do something if the decide they want too.

[Twiggy]

Yes it actually isn't that hard to do something about Pandora, at least make it hard for them to keep it going.

I often wonder about the reasons why they may not be doing anything, even more so because he did so long ago say he will be.

I am kind of 50/50 on Pandora, it has done some good where people have been doing the wrong thing but also as has been pointed out in here has been used to create problems where there really is not.

The main thing I think about Pandora is it shouldn't be there, it is a 3rd party program and shouldn't be allowed.