WandaIT Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Hello all, i'm a Mac user and now playing on Shadow virtual machine, but it cost a lot! I'd mind do buy a Mini PC to play the game, does it config meet 3Dxchat requirement? https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B07YZK13X5/ref=ewc_sw?smid=&psc=1 LENOVO M93p TINY CPU INTEL CORE I5 4570T 2.90GHZ RAM 8 GB HDD 240GB SSD Thanks for any help, Wanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) I don't think so because it doesn't seem to have any graphics card, just onboard, but i am no expert in that. maybe it will run but will be very laggy and in big rooms probably freeze. Edited December 11, 2022 by Janet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SashaFoxy Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 You need a good graphics card first. For example, I have only 45 fps in 4K with RTX 2080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WandaIT Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 Thank you @Janetand @SashaFoxy!! i don't want to change my new Imac for a pc... i will continue with shadow, searching for a cheaper solution. Have a good days!! Wanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinus Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Don't let yourself be discouraged! The Intel I5-4570T Processor got an integrated GPU Intel® HD Graphics 4600, which is for sure good enough to handle that game. All you have to be aware that 16GB Ram might be better for that use .. still 8GB is working not so bad. And the Processor is a bit quicker than the I5-3340M CPU on my laptop, which already works well as backup computer for the game. Many users here got a weaker notbook PC. MeiLing, hotmaya and WandaIT 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Would be interesting to know on which settings they run it on their devices and how many fps they have at the end when it runs over Intel HD. I mean "can it run on that device" mostly ends in a yes, but will you be happy and will it fit to your desire is written on a different paper. For me f.e i don't need 4k, i dont even need 2k but full HD is a must on max settings in every game i play. Working well would also mean for me i do not drop under 60fps in any case. But that's the definition of "well" for me. Others would see that completly different Edited December 12, 2022 by Janet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinus Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 well, to be honest: do you really need more than 60 frames per second? Old movies were just 25 fps and still were to look at comfortly. But a main thing when using a CPU-integrated graphic processor is the amount of Main Memory, as the GPU got no own Memory and so the main memory is shared with the GPU. So 8GB more than the normal 8 GB doesn't cost the world but makes it a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 For me it's fully fine too. I just would like to avoid a disappointed feeling because in my opinion everybody has to say it on their own if something fits good for their needs or not Not that this person wanna run it with 4k and max settings and thinks that it runs on 144fps (just a crazy example). It's all right what you say in general:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinus Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 and yes ... I set down the fps-limit to 30, but as you see there are still all shadows and reflections on. If you switch these off (doesnt really make much differences in party rooms) you would even win a lot of performance. And: the request was a working machine, not a super gaming computer. Janet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Minimum requiement or recommended? Okay, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WandaIT Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/12/2022 at 4:33 PM, Paulinus said: Don't let yourself be discouraged! The Intel I5-4570T Processor got an integrated GPU Intel® HD Graphics 4600, which is for sure good enough to handle that game. All you have to be aware that 16GB Ram might be better for that use .. still 8GB is working not so bad. And the Processor is a bit quicker than the I5-3340M CPU on my laptop, which already works well as backup computer for the game. Many users here got a weaker notbook PC. So i've ordered this Lenovo M93p...i will tell you how it will work on 3dxchat. In case i will update it with 16GB Ram... It cost 137 buks, if it will work i have back my money in 137/30=4,6 month, compared to Shadow machine (that is work very well, or in two yeat if i go with parallel destop (that is not so pretty solution for 3dxchat, because of visualization errors. Janet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 12/14/2022 at 9:24 PM, WandaIT said: So i've ordered this Lenovo M93p...i will tell you how it will work on 3dxchat. In case i will update it with 16GB Ram... It cost 137 buks, if it will work i have back my money in 137/30=4,6 month, compared to Shadow machine (that is work very well, or in two yeat if i go with parallel destop (that is not so pretty solution for 3dxchat, because of visualization errors. Did it work like expected? I guess you found a solution but i am nevertheless curious because you wanted to give feedback :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WandaIT Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) On 1/16/2023 at 6:43 AM, Janet said: Did it work like expected? I guess you found a solution but i am nevertheless curious because you wanted to give feedback :). No, unfortunately it didn't work ... With 8GB Ram the game will run, but all camera or avi movement are slow and snappy. With 16GB Ram the the improvement is at the limit of the perceptible. The setting was setted to minimum. I suppose that without a dedicated video card the game didn't run smootly. Will send back the pc and continue to play in Shadow..... Edited January 19, 2023 by WandaIT Janet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) Damn, that's sorry to hear. Exactly that i wanted to avoid. Hope you can send all back without having any troubles and you get your money back easy. Maybe this experiment has at least something good for people which wanna buy a similar system in future to see if it's worth or not. Thanks for sharing the end result. @GizmoMaybe it would be good that you would make a slight list which hardware requirement are recommended for which settings so people can better search for their wish system and don't need to guess. I mean https://3dxchat.com/support/#system exists but that literaly says nothing when it comes to system building. Nothing is more frusttrating when you think you find something good and get disappointed. Edited January 19, 2023 by Janet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WandaIT Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, Janet said: Damn, that's sorry to hear. Exactly that i wanted to avoid. Hope you can send all back without having any troubles and you get your money back easy. Maybe this experiment has at least something good for people which wanna buy a similar system in future to see if it's worth or not. Thanks for sharing the end result. @GizmoMaybe it would be good that you would make a slight list which hardware requirement are recommended for which settings so people can better search for their wish system and don't need to guess. I mean https://3dxchat.com/support/#system exists but that literaly says nothing when it comes to system building. Nothing is more frusttrating when you think you find something good and get disappointed. Thanks for your word @Janet! No issue with Amazon return... My best wishes is to have a Imac M1 and M2 game compatibile... but i know there is some tech issue on that.... Janet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityWillow Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On 12/11/2022 at 2:02 AM, WandaIT said: Hello all, i'm a Mac user and now playing on Shadow virtual machine, but it cost a lot! I'd mind do buy a Mini PC to play the game, does it config meet 3Dxchat requirement? https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B07YZK13X5/ref=ewc_sw?smid=&psc=1 LENOVO M93p TINY CPU INTEL CORE I5 4570T 2.90GHZ RAM 8 GB HDD 240GB SSD Thanks for any help, Wanda Something you may want to consider is running windows on your mac using boot camp. Boot camp runs windows in a virtual machine and has access to your native mac system resources. This way you can dual boot windows and mac. Any mac users out there know if it will work or not, please elaborate for us and correct me if I am wrong. I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but in case you were wondering what dual boot means is, you can choose which OS to boot to at start up, mac or windows. Janet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WandaIT Posted February 22, 2023 Author Share Posted February 22, 2023 I'll think about this...but M1 processor don't allow to install any Windows version... Shadow at the moment offer the best solution...at high cost, but...that is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityWillow Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, WandaIT said: I'll think about this...but M1 processor don't allow to install any Windows version... Shadow at the moment offer the best solution...at high cost, but...that is! Man, that sucks, you are stuck with getting a windows pc. The biggest thing you need to worry about is your graphics card, 8Gb of ram will run it ok if you have a decent vid card. Just keep in mind it doesn't need to be a GeForce type of card either. I was using a GTX750 and ran the game fine, and it was designed for desktops not a game adapter. And this adapter only had 4GB of VRAM. Just need to do your research. Here is the system Requirements: System Requirements MINIMUM: OS: Windows (64 bit) Processor: Intel® Core™ i3 or AMD Phenom II X4 processor or better Graphics: Video card must be 2 GB or more and should be a DirectX 11-compatible with support for Pixel Shader 5.0 Memory: 4 GB RAM Network: Broadband Internet connection Storage: 10 GB available space Netbooks and old laptops are not supported! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistressBeryl Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 But keep in mind the game will be updated to a newer Unity Engine, so maybe requirements change. I can tell you, a pc without a graphics card for gaming is not funny SerenityWillow and Janet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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