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Figured I’d make another topic instead of necro’ing the one I made last time.

This thread is sort of a follow up from a comment I made on someone else’s thread as it really got me thinking.

Firstly this isn’t a thread to just bash on the devs, if you want to do that then please start another topic; this thread is more just my thoughts on what we as consumers should really be getting in terms of interaction.

@Lisa, @Gizmo I’ll be honest; I don’t actually know how active you two are on the forums. For all I/we know you could read every single comment of every single thread, but the fact we don’t really know that is part of the issue. You’ve both created a game and a community and you should both be proud of that, so interact with us! Give us feedback on ideas, join in with our conversations! Instead of just posting an announcement once a month.

That sort of brings me onto my next point. The forums are kind of neglected. I have an account on here, I’ve joined the discord server and I follow you on Twitter but all three platforms have different announcements for different things; surely you should be updating all 3 with the same stuff so those who don’t use discord or Twitter can still be kept in the loop? 
 

My final point is probably my biggest bug bear and it’s likely the same for everyone else here - the lack of transparency. Game development takes time, developing new items, clothes, poses for the game take time and we get that, but why not let us know what you’re working on, more frequently? In my previous topic I asked for a road map, however we don’t really even need that. Just keep us updated, tell us the cool things you’re working on, show us pictures and let us know how things are progressing. A lot of the hate you two receive is from players who are told an update will be “out soon” to then not hear anything for 6 months, and that’s just not really acceptable, when these people are part of your community!

You have some really great platforms here as well as some very talented individuals who want to create items for the game, so work with them, let them flourish and then everyone wins! 
Yes I understand that you don’t want to be updating the game with new content every other day, so put it to a poll, see which items most people want and then add them in turn. 
 

if Gizzy and Lisa do end up reading this, I hope they let us know and can see where I’m coming from. Like I said this thread isn’t to bash them or abuse them, they’re just my thoughts on how we can all be treated a little better.

 

thanks for reading  

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40 minutes ago, _Sophie_ said:

join in with our conversations! Instead of just posting an announcement once a month.

Now we don't even getting those... Last thing in discord about future update was in the end of June. And since then... Silence. I mean of course devs were writing some stuff about maintenance, events and other things, but I did not see any new info about update. And it was already almost 4 months since the last one. Kinda sad tbh.

I mean I understand that there can be all kind of problems in development and it was Summer, maybe GIzmo/Lisa/both were having some vacation time but... would be nice to keep us informed and not just hold us in silence. 

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Honestly it feels like they need a community manager (not sure if they can or want to hire someone for it though). In many ways 3DX is amazing but for a social game its main 'lack' from my perspective is a lack of communication with the user base. I absolutely agree with _Sophie_ That I'd love to see more interactions. Even if its just an hour a month where one or the other sits down and talks on Discord or posts an update. I don't mind hearing about 'we're trying this but its not going well', or 'We've been considering that thing'. Because it shows involvement and activity.

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2 minutes ago, Maybelle said:

I don't mind hearing about 'we're trying this but its not going well', or 'We've been considering that thing'. Because it shows involvement and activity.

Exactly this! I don’t mind hearing of stuff isn’t going to plan, but at least then I can avert my expectations of what we will get in an update. It’s all about communication and being transparent with the user base 

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Thank you @_Sophie_ for your thoughts on this.  In this day and age, and especially the times we are in at the moment, 3DX should be on the cusp of greatness.  I for one have fallen love with the game, but even more so with my fellow 3DXers that have made my time here so fun and rich.  You are what has hooked me, and I am not going anywhere.  But with a bit more marketing, regular updates, an engaged and unified presence in the various communications platforms?

Boom, homerun!

I see tons of personal investment to make this place the place to be.  All the builders, DJs, dance team and bands, etc.  May ownership recognize and advance the game, for all of us.

I seriously want to see this community and this company to not only survive,  but thrive.

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Playing this game for 6 years now and I can only say that sadly, that won't happen. 

Look at upcoming content and it was kinda close to a road map and been a year since the last post. 

Right now I just play this game cuz I'm a horny perv and still have a couple friends here. Not caring bout updates.

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8 hours ago, Katsuya said:

Right now I just play this game cuz I'm a horny perv and still have a couple friends here. 

Are we related? 😉  

The platform drew my in, but it's the people I know and play with that keeps me around.  I hope to still here 5 years from now!  As long as there is investment in keeping game running and stable, I am happy.  But it really could be so much more!

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I’m frankly amazed that the cooperation with Lovense didn’t improve anything. 

Makes me wonder if that company is regretting the deal by now. 

I support this call for a Development Roadmap and more communication between the Developers and the Consumers. 

We pay, so we do have a right to some measure of feedback. 

If only to decide if we’re still getting our money’s worth. 

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45 minutes ago, Derai said:

I’m frankly amazed that the cooperation with Lovense didn’t improve anything. 

You and me both. Even more so when the “not entirely legal” version of the game has a LOT more customisation etc… you know it’s bad when the rip off is arguably better than the real version 

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<SNIP>

 

Right…

And how gullible would people have to be to take the word of a self-proclaimed ‘hacker/modder’ to ditch the game and go join the malware infested pirate copy whose ‘development’ is just them duct taping other stolen shit onto the outdated 32bits 3DX client. 
 

Get real mate. 

Cool story though. 

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5 hours ago, Fvcker said:

I do have my arguments and the real 3DXChat is based upon free mods for other games. You technically pay for modded game.

Mod for the game skyrim
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real game VVV (Notice the time ;))

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I can imagine why people on 3DXChat get no updates, is easy to explain. When there is descending in player base, they release an update.... Just think for a moment how old the female and male models are... and I do not encourage people to go in private games, they seem just reasonably better than the real thing.... 


After that, developers talk about quality... ahahaha :D quality of a stolen mods ? sounds funny and I think 1/3 of the players know it, but are scared to say it of getting a ban (I got 4 already). Eather you stick with the system and you eat what they give you or you make a path which fits your needs (cyberp*nk 2077) 

 

actually what we're facing in official version it's worse... if I could say that.

first, if these hairstyles are based on Skyrim's UBBE hairstyles(or just get right from there), I'm really worried about how is our devs real level of skills... you see, these are not some old hairstyles, I'm sure it's released later than update 390, which we basically hardly get many updates on hairstyles and clothes after this update. if they got this from somewhere but not created by themselves(but of course they personalized something so it could fit the hats), could we seen the new stuffs from the update are came from the same way?

secondly, remember I said "dev's real level of skills" ? I haven't doubt it since I start playing this game until I saw this... Then I realized actually what we got it's not they made by their own. it may came from the u3d store or somewhere else then edited. It's fully understandable since it's not easy to make things fit for the avatar and they have to fix the rigs. But why, just why:

1:Why the quality they want isn't what we got in the game? the earlier clothes may meet their quality, such like the female biker jacket and the punk boots: it got a lot of wrinkles and details such as soles or shades/reflecting when swaps to different color. But why the clothes and shoes we get after 390 update(which is face/head model updated) are all getting a weird --- non shadowed/wrinkled looking?

new shoes vs old shoes that exists since the game ever exist

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NEW SHOES/BOOTS(has non soles)

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OLD BOOTS(detailed with sole)

Just in case if somebody says all high heels doesn't have details like soles

NEW HOODIE VE OLD JACKET

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NEW HOODIE

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OLD JACKET

This compare is not very clear, but if you can see there's not much details on the new hoodie as the jacket. and when drag the color diagram, it turns to completely dark, no reflections , and not showing it's texture(the pocket) at all

AND...THE WIERD LINEN LOOKING

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Old, wrinkled, Linen lookin

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Old,Wrinkled, Smooth

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New, Not much-wrinkled, Linen

why the new updated item it's even worse than before if they see wrinkles as quality

and more on dresses:

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old dresses(detailed, has it's shadow and reflecting)

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Maiden dress(new, and it's a lot smoother... but at least it got laces)

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coverall dress(oh pls no......)

you can see very obviously lack of details on the updated dresses, especially the coverall dress: it's basically built on texture and 4 buttons. when you color it to black, the whole texture turns to black but not like the old dresses (feel familiar eh?)

aaand laces...

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Old lace lingerie when drags to full black

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OH NO......(New laces bra doesn't have transparent details when drags to black)

suure, many of you might say "it's okay, it doesn't confused us when we're playing". Yeah... that's true......

then I realized: why their required quality for adding new items in by player it's this:

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I sent them the things I made, I admit I didn't add details such as soles on those boots. but look at the things we got above and what I have made:

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aren't they somewhat same with what we already have...? I even put more details...

But of course, it is better when we got new high quality clothes, so I'm still fixing some of them... still, this makes me really doubt what is their real level of skill and their level of expectation/ambition after I read and photoed/compared all these

2: If I could show a rate chart, we could see that every new update we got , the quality of the item it's decreasing but the glitches are raising. if devs are really working on this by their own, just 2 person, it is a really hard work I must say. It's fully understandable to work all this system by 2 it's a really hard job. But what really happened? why they hardly shown up, and we never get a official pose/clothes editor they said before?

Finally,  @Deraiit's right...I really don't want to say this but seems the cooperating with lovense hasn't do much things to game... the player numbers are not as much as before, we haven't get many new stuff they promised, even they don't accept things we finished although the stuff they created by their own it's quite same as we created. Before me, @Loruna has created soo much poses for them... why they're not in game? Why the pirated server has even more stuff than us? And why the cooperation hasn't do much pushes to game?

we may never know the answer :c

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clearer version of those created clothes

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2 minutes ago, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

It actually has. 

but just a little... very little, it's hardly to see laces on the bra part because it's one part of solid texture, not like the maiden dress: the laces and dress are separated 2 parts, nor like the lace lingerie: it's completely transparent when dark

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I can't pretend to speak to the game development side, just an avid user immersed in this world whenever the mood is right and time allows.

I have tried several other games over the years, and 3DX just has that right mix of a game, and the whole social aspect to reach out and meet people from all over the world and walks of life.

I tried the game out of Covid boredom and isolation, an alternative to just masturbating to porn.  I admit it.  What I didn't forsee was meeting all sorts of fun, sexy people.  Some that have become dear to my heart, true friends. 

I think the place is pretty cool place to be, but honestly think with real investment and a targeted roadmap, an awesome place!

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Looks like there's always couple persons defending the developers immediately after critique...

Also why Lovense is not promoting their co-op with 3dxchat in anyway on their website? You need to specifically search for stuff related to 3Dxchat to find anything about it.

At this point I'm starting to believe this is somekind of a russian gru intelligence program...

Look at this: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41969001.amp

Can you explain?

@Lovense Community

Are we subject to this kind of bull shittery?

The revenue of lovense is multiple millions. Why would they want to team up with 3DXchat? What's the value for them?

If this message gets deleted or I get banned, you'll know the truth!

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Honestly, I dont get the devs. Maybe they have some private issues... I dont know.
But the fact, that they have content, which they could give us, but dont do it, is beyond my understanding. 

As said, maybe they have some big troubles and thats why there is no update. But with the cooperation with Lovense, I thought this will be a change of events.
That this would boost their motivation etc. but sadly it didnt. I know for sure, that they have content which can be in an update. Why? Because I did send in a few poses months ago and they got approved. Not all of course, but some of them.

This is part of the reason why I dont work on poses anymore. The first reason is, that I have a RL Job now and not that much time to work on poses. Which means, if I work on poses, that time should be worth it. And I dont feel like it is worth it. I mean. 3 months ago, I did send in my last pose and that one got approved, but not yet in the game. Why?

 

Just my opinion on pirated versions: Yes, its really frustrating to see a pirated version, which is free and doesnt has a sub fee, has more updates than the original one. BUT its still a pirated one and you dont know what happens with your data when you registre there. So I recommend to not go there. I at least have no plans to do so. You are of course free to do what you want, but I wouldnt do that.

 

I dont want to bash the devs because I loved the time working for them. Especially the year 2020 was really nice. I was able to create so many poses and saw them in the game being used. It was a pleasure and I am just really sad where this went. 3DX has so much potential but yet, it doesnt reach it. I hope this changes again.

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2 hours ago, Loruna said:

Honestly, I dont get the devs. Maybe they have some private issues... I dont know.
But the fact, that they have content, which they could give us, but dont do it, is beyond my understanding. 

As said, maybe they have some big troubles and thats why there is no update. But with the cooperation with Lovense, I thought this will be a change of events.
That this would boost their motivation etc. but sadly it didnt. I know for sure, that they have content which can be in an update. Why? Because I did send in a few poses months ago and they got approved. Not all of course, but some of them.

This is part of the reason why I dont work on poses anymore. The first reason is, that I have a RL Job now and not that much time to work on poses. Which means, if I work on poses, that time should be worth it. And I dont feel like it is worth it. I mean. 3 months ago, I did send in my last pose and that one got approved, but not yet in the game. Why?

 

Just my opinion on pirated versions: Yes, its really frustrating to see a pirated version, which is free and doesnt has a sub fee, has more updates than the original one. BUT its still a pirated one and you dont know what happens with your data when you registre there. So I recommend to not go there. I at least have no plans to do so. You are of course free to do what you want, but I wouldnt do that.

 

I dont want to bash the devs because I loved the time working for them. Especially the year 2020 was really nice. I was able to create so many poses and saw them in the game being used. It was a pleasure and I am just really sad where this went. 3DX has so much potential but yet, it doesnt reach it. I hope this changes again.

From what I have seen before with people creating poses for the game it seems to be a matter of timing. I mean it seems that Gizmo has times he spends on the game and others where we he doesn't. He has always been reluctant to make any sort of time commitments and I would go as far as saying that it also seems to include the small amount of time it takes to add player created content. Could be a number of reasons why he does that, could be he works elsewhere or on other projects or maybe is just having to good a time partying on all the money he has made from the game. But there definitely seems to be times he spends on the game and others where he doesn't. And both can be months.

 

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well you could go to garbage (sin club) to ask people who are playing this game for almost decade who only hang on that garbage club pumping money to Dev. i won't be surprise if game will be close given player drop.  this year except Dildo (for gang) there is no quality update. we lost hope that there will be any update now. lately game on blockchain are booming and dev are making good money. matter of few years until new game like 3dx will come out. i heard that one of DJ in 3dx in developing 3dx type game called livcloser or someting.

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yeah, the game by DJ turned out to be a real failure with the graphics of 2005 😃 It's not enough just to want you need to either invest a lot of money in the team or study more 2 or 3 years to create something worthwhile. The longer there are no updates, the more content there will be in the upcoming update.

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9 minutes ago, Takisa said:

yeah, the game by DJ turned out to be a real failure with the graphics of 2005 😃 It's not enough just to want you need to either invest a lot of money in the team or study more 2 or 3 years to create something worthwhile. The longer there are no updates, the more content there will be in the upcoming update.

lol..no limit lying..huge update trailer in feb turn out to be Dildo (for gang)

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9 minutes ago, Takisa said:

yeah, the game by DJ turned out to be a real failure with the graphics of 2005 😃 It's not enough just to want you need to either invest a lot of money in the team or study more 2 or 3 years to create something worthwhile. The longer there are no updates, the more content there will be in the upcoming update.

I truelly hope so... I want those rings and foxtail for months, but we ain't have nothing yet... :c

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