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Ok so i did some research...

Where are 3DXChat’s headquarters?

3DXChat’s headquarters are in Pip 932, Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan.... Right

Consensual incest between adults is legal in Japan. Lol

theres more......

Individuals aged 12 or younger in Japan are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape or the equivalent local law. Japan statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual contact with a person under age 13.

Where the headquarters are would dictate their "Laws and Rules" unless they have to abide by US LAW / UK LAW / RUSSIA LAW / ETC LAW.

Which maybe the case.

However 13+ for consent is pretty low. 

I know it's 16 in the US with parents consent i think. I can check

Gotta love google lol

A person younger than the legal age of consent cannot legally consent to sexual activity. The age of consent in the United States ranges from 16 to 18 years old depending on the state, meaning that a person 15 years of age or younger cannot legally consent to sexual contact.Aug 13, 2016

The age of consent in Russia is 16 years old. Individuals 15 years old or younger cannot legally consent to sexual activity. Failure to adhere can result in prosecution of statutory rape or local equivalent. Russia's age of consent has changed several times.

ALSO IN ORDER TO HAVE SEX IN 3DXCHAT IT HAS TO BE consensual unless they are hacking the game and that's a whole other issue entirely

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I just found an interesting fact: Wolfenstein and the Na*i symbols are now allowed in games in Germany. Didn't knew that this has changed recently! (Of course nothing has changed regarding depiction of cp. In contrary: the laws have become even stricter here.)

Maybe someone who is more knowledgeable in laws can enlighten us. In the end, we are all in the same boat and want the same thing: to have 3DXC up and running, and not being shut down because of some stupid law somewhere in the world. 
And if someone (Gizmo?) can tell us the rules and limits of what is allowed and what is not, we should be safe.

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Just for record.... many times see a room in 3DXChat, where do people "rape", "torture" and "kill" people... this rooms call right now: secret society
I know this is just a RP.... BUT the people who love this,
they are very sick and should be banned.


Once I entered, because I didn’t know what this room was, and then asked me a player to join this. Ask: I want him to rape me before he kills me.... this freaks me out so much!!!


Does 3dxchat want to be such a game?
summ: @Gizmo

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Look I'm not saying "rape,cp roleplay,murder,dismemberment,torture,etc isn't fucked up. I am saying you don't have to engage them and can simply ignore them... But to say "They should be banned" you CHOOSE to see it and not ignore them.

I just ignored what i didn't like and was done with it 2015-2021

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Ok.... Take good and evil for example...

It's all prospective. And my "Prospective" more than likely isn't the same as yours.. I can give a very clear "prospective" on that shall i?

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Real Life crap a head. Lol

I feel that if i EVER find who raped and abused me as a child i have a right to torture them to death because of their actions.... However most would say that mindset is very EVIL. I say it's fair and they get what they deserve

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I look at it this way. At least if they are doing it only in a game "they most likely are not in reality" so they are not creating more people like me

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I use my self as an example on another one. I like to Roleplay with futanari characters. Does not mean I'd seek something out like that in reality.

I am also very not submissive in my "personality" but i have roleplayed being it 

"i was totally faking getting off, i was bored and did it for amusement"

Also Roleplayed with a guy friend to help him not suck at roleplaying "i am not attracted to the male body at all" nor would i have sex with a man in real life "clearly for past reasons"

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4 hours ago, Diana Prince said:

another example: it's illegal to show swastikas in a game.

Yes, laws are different in deffierent countries. But Gismo must apply to all laws when he wants to publish his game in all countries. Otherwise there must be different versions of 3DXC for different countries,

Oh no, he better not. 

If Gizmo really would try to "apply to all laws" he would end up removing any gay, lesbian and transsexual related content out of the game simply because its illegal in some ultra conservative muslim country. 

If Gizmo would do so, I personally would end up my subscription and even ask for refund the same day and probably same way would act most of LGBT community and just people who are not indifferent to these values. 

So no, I don't think that trying to please every country and bend over for every law in every shithole of a country is a right way to act. 

Which is not related to rape of course. Rape is illegal almost everywhere, its not just some local law.

But... I don't really believe that the laws is a reason here to be honest. 

I mean... Murder is illegal everywhere, at least most forms of it. Yet, in most popular games people are "killing" each other. Is Fortnite, CSGO, Apex, League of Legends are prohibited in US or Europe or just most countries? I believe not. Yet people there "killing" each other. Of course it has nothing to do with real murder. But same can be said with roleplaying forced sex scenarios in 3dxchat, it also has nothing to do with real rape. GTA5 even letting people play in casino which is also against the law in many countries, has prostitution themes in game also, and prostitution is also against the law in most countries. Yet, GTA5 is  popular as fuck and earned Rockstar shit ton of money. 

Oh, and talking about prostitution! It's illegal in most countries. But we don't have people banned for opening escort rooms in 3dxchat, do we? And I don't see people asking for it.

And I believe this is the real reason. I mean people, a lot of paying clients, asking to ban rape rooms because it hurts their feelings to see the publicly open room with a "rape" in its name. Oh, and aside of people who really had a traumatic experience and I can understand their position there are also a good amount of white knights of internet who will fight all "bad" stuff just to stay on a moral high ground and feed their ego by feeling that they are above others. 

But well... Gizmo seems to already found a good way to solve this problem and I believe its a good decision. Without public "rape" rooms people who really had a traumatic experience of either being raped/assaulted or getting their relatives/close friends raped not going to get triggered bad memories by seeing such kind of rooms, while the people who are into such kind of RP actually still can roleplay it, just... not publicly. 

I just hope that this situation not going to escalate. I would not want someone ending up banned just because they have in their profile info that they enjoy getting "abused", or enjoying incest RP or whatever. Banning rooms is one thing but if it will go to the point of banning people for profiles whenever it offense someone... well, I hope not gonna happen. 

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44 minutes ago, Xizi said:

But well... Gizmo seems to already found a good way to solve this problem and I believe its a good decision. Without public "rape" rooms people who really had a traumatic experience of either being raped/assaulted or getting their relatives/close friends raped not going to get triggered bad memories by seeing such kind of rooms, while the people who are into such kind of RP actually still can roleplay it, just... not publicly. 

I just hope that this situation not going to escalate. I would not want someone ending up banned just because they have in their profile info that they enjoy getting "abused", or enjoying incest RP or whatever. Banning rooms is one thing but if it will go to the point of banning people for profiles whenever it offense someone... well, I hope not gonna happen. 

This is about the best thing I have seen you say in these forums. 

Something else that needs to be considered though is the effect it can have on numbers in the game and the harm it can do to the games reputation. Would allowing rape rooms bring in more custom or deter people away, I think we can work that one out easy enough. If rape rooms were allowed to be shown in the room list without restriction can it cause authorities to come down on the game, I think yes it would eventually happen.

Rape and child abuse rooms being able to be advertised should not be allowed and prevented in any way possible. As for the rest I am not even going to bother participating in that argument, they don't concern me.

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The filter for those room names is an awesome idea! But I hope it doesnt get out of hand.
Because some people do have their problems with BDSM for example. How long will it take until someone complains about that in a room name as some rooms are named as "slave garden" for example. I think this filter should be well managed and not misused against any word that might hurt someone.
I understand it with rape of course. Its a forbidden thing (in most countries) and its even stated in the ToS of 3DXChat.
However, it should not be used against the BDSM community where "abusing" and "slave" are common terms, or any other community where some terms are used that some will find insulting.

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14 minutes ago, Loruna said:

The filter for those room names is an awesome idea! But I hope it doesnt get out of hand.
Because some people do have their problems with BDSM for example. How long will it take until someone complains about that in a room name as some rooms are named as "slave garden" for example. I think this filter should be well managed and not misused against any word that might hurt someone.
I understand it with rape of course. Its a forbidden thing (in most countries) and its even stated in the ToS of 3DXChat.
However, it should not be used against the BDSM community where "abusing" and "slave" are common terms, or any other community where some terms are used that some will find insulting.

While I have seen people mention other things like BDSM in these rape threads I can't remember ever seeing any threads created with people trying to say BDSM rooms should not be allowed, and think the majority of people by far don't care about hem. So I don't believe there will be a problem where people try to get the same thing done with things like BDSM, plus if they did they wouldn't get much support.

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46 minutes ago, Twiggy said:

While I have seen people mention other things like BDSM in these rape threads I can't remember ever seeing any threads created with people trying to say BDSM rooms should not be allowed, and think the majority of people by far don't care about hem. So I don't believe there will be a problem where people try to get the same thing done with things like BDSM, plus if they did they wouldn't get much support.

Maybe not in the Forum here or not public. I met alot of people that said, that BDSM is only for sick people and it should be forbidden and all. I just wanted to say, that this filter should not be misused against any possible word that could hurt someone. It should only be against really bad words like "rape". At least in my view

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On 8/7/2021 at 9:59 PM, Khallum Troy said:

 

🇫🇷 Bonsoir,
Tout d'abord. Merci. Il a fallu que tu postes tes commentaires, pour que je sache que :  "violer quelqu'un" au sens littéral du terme n'est pas possible dans 3DXChat. Non vraiment. Je n'étais pas au courant...
Franchement... Tu penses vraiment que tout le monde est stupide ?

Dans la majorité des plateformes comme celles-ci, dans les TOS, toutes suggestions, ou allusion à ce genres de choses, les reproduire ou les simuler, sont interdites. De même en ce qui concerne la pédophilie, et le partage de contenus suggestifs, ou explicites sur ces thèmes, parce que dans beaucoup de pays, cela est illégal et que cela peut cacher un réseau sous jacent.
De plus,  pour être en conformité avec les différentes législations et les droits d'exploitations dans les pays, les plateformes sont obligés d'interdir ce types de contenus ou de pratiques et de le stipuler dans leurs TOS. Ce n'est pas un fait nouveau. Je ne l'invente pas, c'est un fait.

D'autre part, cela n'a rien de drôle, de fun, d'amusant, de joyeux, de cool, ou je ne sais quoi. Ni stimulant, ni intéressant, de jouer ce genres de choses en rp de façon "consensuelle". C'est tout simplement déplacé et tordu.
Je n'ai aucune tolérance à l'égard de ce genres de choses, quand bien même, en effet, dans 3DXChat on ne peut pas violer quelqu'un au sens littéral du terme. Que l'on ne peut pas lancer d'action sexuelle sur quelqu'un, sans qu'elle n'accepte, comme c'est le cas des kiss ou hugs, (chose que je n'aime pas non plus, mais c'est un autre débat).

C'est vrai, je le sait, mais je suis farouchement contre, donc autant vous dire que, vouloir argumenter avec moi sur le sujet, c'est peine perdu. Vous prêchez à la mauvaise paroisse. Je n'ai pas à accepter ou tolérer ce genres de choses, ni à changer d'avis, parce qu'avec mon avatar je ne peux pas contraindre quelqu'un à un act sexuel.
D'ailleurs quand je vois ce genres de rooms je n'y vais pas. Même si je sais que c'est du RP, cela n'a rien de drôle pour moi, ou d'amusant. Bien au contraire.

Je suis RPist. Je suis dans un room, sur les thèmes de la police et des crimes. Certains le savent déjà. On est sur un système de RP en continue, et on intgère des storylines, avec parfois des actions. Je vous assure, que des storyline, en un an, on en a fait beaucoup. Beaucoup, beaucoup. Sur différents thèmes. Terrorisme, trafiques de drogue etc... Le viol a aussi été abordé, d'ailleurs la façon dont les joueurs ont joués cela était parfaitement exécuté.

(Pour bien expliquer le contexte de cette histoire. C'était une personne jouant une victime de viol. Elle est venue porter au commissariat. Et le simple fait de nous raconter la scène, qui n'a pas été jouée de façon physique, je précise, était prenant. Le fait d'être concentré sur ce qu'elle nous racontait, les détails, la chronologie, sa façon de jouer faisait que cela rendait la chose vraiment réelle. On pouvait imaginer l'action, sans pour autant qu'elle n'ait été accompli avec des avatars. )

Mais jamais. Je dis bien, JAMAIS, on a osé simuler des scènes de viols. Je crois que cela nous aurai dégouté. Même en rp, le simple fait de se concentrer sur ce que l'on a à faire, jouer cela aurait été assez troublant et dérangeant et je pense que l'on n'aurait pas trouvé ça fun. De plus, pour éviter ce genres de choses, notre headmaster à interdit que cela produise dans la room. C'est dans la charte. Cela ainsi que tout ce qui a attrait à la pédophilie, l'inceste, violences sur mineurs (toutes violences confondues), sont interdit.

Enfin, si c'était si cool que ça, et si ce n'était pas si tordu... Pourquoi les gens qui ouvrent ces rooms se servent d'Alts, et font un sorte que les utilisateurs qui y vont aient leurs noms d'avatars cachés ? Je veux dire... C'est pourquoi ? Avoir un petit côté plus immersif et croustillant?

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🇺🇸 Good evening,
First of all. Thank you. It took you posting your comments, for me to know that: "raping someone" in the literal sense is not possible in 3DXChat. No really. I didn't know that...
Honestly... Do you really think everyone is stupid?

In the majority of platforms like this, in TOS, any suggestions, or hints of such things, reproducing them or simulating them, are forbidden. The same goes for pedophilia, and the sharing of suggestive or explicit content on these themes, because in many countries this is illegal and can hide an underlying network.
Moreover, in order to comply with the different legislations and exploitation rights in the countries, the platforms are obliged to prohibit this type of content or practices and to stipulate it in their TOS. This is not a new fact. I'm not making it up, it's a fact.

On the other hand, there is nothing funny, fun, amusing, joyful, cool, or whatever. It's not challenging or interesting to play this kind of stuff in a "consensual" way. It's just wrong and twisted.
I have no tolerance for that kind of thing, even though, indeed, in 3DXChat you can't rape someone in the literal sense of the word. That you can't perform sexual actions on someone, without them accepting, like kissing or hugs, (which I don't like either, but that's another debate).

It's true, I know it, but I'm fiercely against it, so I might as well tell you that trying to argue with me on the subject is a waste of time. You are preaching to the wrong church. I don't have to accept or tolerate this kind of thing, nor do I have to change my mind, because with my avatar I can't force someone to a sexual act.
Besides, when I see this kind of rooms I don't go there. Even if I know it's RP, it's not fun for me, or funny. On the contrary.

I am an RPist. I'm in a room, about police and crime. Some of you already know that. We are on a continuous RP system, and we integrate storylines, with sometimes actions. I assure you, that in one year, we have done a lot of storylines. Many, many. On different themes. Terrorism, drug trafficking etc... Rape has also been dealt with, and the way the players played it was perfectly executed.

(To explain the context of this story. It was a person playing a rape victim. She came to the police station. And just telling us the scene, which was not physically acted out, I might add, was gripping. Just being focused on what she was telling us, the details, the timeline, the way she was acting, made it really real. You could imagine the action, but it wasn't done with avatars. )

But never. I say NEVER, we dared to simulate rape scenes. I think that would have disgusted us. Even in a rp, just focusing on what you have to do, playing it would have been quite disturbing and I think it would not have been fun. Also, to avoid this kind of thing, our headmaster has forbidden it to happen in the room. It's in the charter. This as well as everything related to pedophilia, incest, violence on minors (all violence), are forbidden.

I mean, if it was so cool, and if it wasn't so twisted... Why do the people who open these rooms use Alts, and make sure that the users who go there have their avatar names hidden? I mean... What's that for? To have a little bit more immersive and crisp ?

I will make something clear, and please NOTICE IT FROM ONE TIME. YES ITS POSSIBLE TO "RAPE" BECUASE THE GAME HAVE A BUG THAT ALLOW IT. It means you can force someone to do poses without consent. So, even if not much people know it, is better to stop to use this argument (for good or for bad). 

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Just now, Toposecreto77 said:

I will make something clear, and please NOTICE IT FROM ONE TIME. YES ITS POSSIBLE TO "RAPE" BECUASE THE GAME HAVE A BUG THAT ALLOW IT. It means you can force someone to do poses without consent. So, even if not much people know it, is better to stop to use this argument (for good or for bad). 

Only wanted top make it clear, no to talk about anithing :D

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5 hours ago, Angelqueen said:

Just for record.... many times see a room in 3DXChat, where do people "rape", "torture" and "kill" people... this rooms call right now: secret society
I know this is just a RP.... BUT the people who love this,
they are very sick and should be banned.


Once I entered, because I didn’t know what this room was, and then asked me a player to join this. Ask: I want him to rape me before he kills me.... this freaks me out so much!!!


Does 3dxchat want to be such a game?
summ: @Gizmo

Think they should decide on if they're gonna deal with this stuff or have a neutral stance, but if these policies are meant only to be taken at face value as public image thing and not actively policed or enforce. Then I think they should consider adding in some safe guard forward people who don't want those rooms around. Like default filter you have to turn off to find those kind of rooms, so people either unaware is not subjective to this without knowing what they're getting in too.

My personal opinion however is it's gonna reflect poorly on 3dxchat, kind of like Onlyfans having a huge problem shaking image that they're an adult themed site. Same way if this spreads out with fringe sex suddenly being openly displayed everywhere, I think many new customers are gonna think OMG what kind of place is this.

Then you can always argue it's fiction, but that beside the point since question is are there "rules against it" or not, if there is are they gonna be enforced or not. I mean having rules on paper is one thing, but if they're just there for show. Then I don't really understand their purpose outside of looking good to the public, but that will end being a smoke screen if eventually the place is flooded with the stuff. People are gonna find out it's there.

My biggest worry is if Fringe sex that isn't just mild taboos become openly apparent, my worry would be it will attract people that like those things, while slowly or quickly alienate everyone else who feels it's no longer a place for them.

Also that fringe rooms will end spilling out into other rooms, not being self contained rooms that only attract people who share those fantasies. But end going out and subjecting others to them also, making it not feel safe for people who don't wanna see or experience them personally.

Anyways that's my personal thoughts on it

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On 8/11/2021 at 3:56 PM, Gizmo said:

In the next game update there will be a word filter for room names. And those players who try to bypass the filter will be banned.
I hope that such measures will stop violators.

Well Gyzmo, I was not even specting that you come to the topioc, but thank you for answer :). I wish this filter make a good job.

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5 hours ago, Angelqueen said:

Just for record.... many times see a room in 3DXChat, where do people "rape", "torture" and "kill" people... this rooms call right now: secret society
I know this is just a RP.... BUT the people who love this,
they are very sick and should be banned.


Once I entered, because I didn’t know what this room was, and then asked me a player to join this. Ask: I want him to rape me before he kills me.... this freaks me out so much!!!


Does 3dxchat want to be such a game?
summ: @Gizmo

I dont know if they must be banned or not. But I htink the question must be put on value, to talk about. On this case... I dont care a shit if is RP. And ONLY TALKING ABOUT RAPE  (No to other questions that came here). I think That there must be a red line (but of course my opinion is discusable ... and is good taht we can talk about)

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