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If one of the group obviously tells bullshit in the forum and is then defended by many from the group it gets reflected to the whole group. The right thing would have been to talk to him behind closed doors and then to put it right here in the forum. I still don't see this btw.

Who still insists that this mail is not a fake, is either stupid or doesn't know who Armin van Buuren is.

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Two Thinghs

 first  Thanks Kemistry for your answer like i say we both make a mistake and i say sorry for this

but thanks for you  respect for the SFL

For you Chloe well i dont go say nothing more of This

Who public this was  one person without my permission, so you dont can talk, and nobody insist in say this email is fake, so stop to say what you dont know

 

and like kemistry say  this story ended here

 see you all in another Party 

 

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5 hours ago, Kemistry said:

Yes, and to be very clear about it: I did NOT say that members of SFL did these things! But all these things do happen in 3dx nearly every single day. My group, my friends and I have been targets of all these attacks and I am not very patient with it. 3dx community isn't the peaceful group it pretends to be, in fact it is full of envy and jealousy and other negative behaviour - like EVERY human group. And that is okay, but don't expect from me to simply accept it and stay quiet. If I am confronted with bullshit, I will always speak my mind.

I admire the people who work hard here and give something to the community, be it the builders or DJs or event organizers or dance groups or magazine editors or or or... even producers of naughty little pixel porn ;)  Without them, the game wouldn't be the same. 

And all these people don't deserve the bullshit. So if everyone just keeps their mouths shut for the sake of peace, then this is all going down the drain very quickly.

EXACTLY. And that is what I don't understand. We are ALL here for the same reasons to escape reality. I find it sad and pathetic when some people believe their escape allows them to be intentionally hate filled and cruel to others. It makes me wonder what their real lives must be like and how devoid they must be in them of anything positive. 

I guess this is just a microcosm of the real world. We all paid the same to be here and how we live and our attitudes are based on our past interactions and the people we surround ourselves with and our innermost selves. 

In the end, the ideal, utopia that we seek rests upon how we treat and love others. Some people can't help but be total bitter pricks and cunts and will never find happiness in anything, they only find a glimmer of it when they can make others as miserable as they are even in their escape from reality. You shouldn't let them drag you down to their level, never let someone else's head interfere with your inner peace. Find a way to avoid them, ignore them and move on being yourself no matter what. It's only as difficult as we make it or we allow others to make it. That's easier said than done though, because we all have bad days that affect our emotions and attitudes. In the end we can only hope we have more good days than bad.  

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I have no idea what you wanted to say Bia. Please use deepl.com to translate your texts to English. It is much better as google and maybe than also a lot of misunderstandings can be avoided. I didn’t wanted to attack anybody here but if you freak out if somebody call this Mail a fake than I really have to shake my head.

That’s all from me, have fun in your fantasies. 

 

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Just to be clear again: for me, this email is still and very obviously a fake and it seems as if SFL does not cover this any longer but unfortunately the faker says nothing at all. That is a pitty.


It is "just" a fake email, why is it important? Well...

There are a lot of DJs in this game investing a lot of time and really hard work in order to build up their reputation, to build up a fan base, to promote their rooms and events with their outstanding DJing... but others try to take the shortcut. They try to fake reputation like in this case by claiming "international DJ level" confirmed by world famous Armin van Buuren. 
This behaviour is just a punch in the face of all honest DJs.

It's the same with these so called "DJs" who are downloading whole sets from other DJs at Youtube and present them as their own. For me as a pure "consumer" this might not matter. As a club owner I could even support this secretly because these sets are mostly very good and attract a lot of people. But for me, it matters and I do not support it because again it is a punch in the face of the honest DJs here!

So yes, we are here to have fun. But a lot of the fun we have in this game is created by people who invest their time and energy in providing additonal content... be it locations or DJ sets or events or even useless pixel porn or whatever. And all these people don't deserve the punches in their faces by the fakers and liars and thieves.

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On 10/4/2020 at 2:12 AM, Kemistry said:

Just to be clear again: for me, this email is still and very obviously a fake and it seems as if SFL does not cover this any longer but unfortunately the faker says nothing at all. That is a pitty.


It is "just" a fake email, why is it important? Well...

There are a lot of DJs in this game investing a lot of time and really hard work in order to build up their reputation, to build up a fan base, to promote their rooms and events with their outstanding DJing... but others try to take the shortcut. They try to fake reputation like in this case by claiming "international DJ level" confirmed by world famous Armin van Buuren. 
This behaviour is just a punch in the face of all honest DJs.

It's the same with these so called "DJs" who are downloading whole sets from other DJs at Youtube and present them as their own. For me as a pure "consumer" this might not matter. As a club owner I could even support this secretly because these sets are mostly very good and attract a lot of people. But for me, it matters and I do not support it because again it is a punch in the face of the honest DJs here!

So yes, we are here to have fun. But a lot of the fun we have in this game is created by people who invest their time and energy in providing additonal content... be it locations or DJ sets or events or even useless pixel porn or whatever. And all these people don't deserve the punches in their faces by the fakers and liars and thieves.

to be honest, I truly don't give 2 shits about anyones reputation because I am someone who prefers to judge for myself. So what if someone wants to pretend or truly is endorsed by someone famous? I don't care. I only care in how that person treats others and in this case the music they play. They can be endorsed by God Himself, but if I don't like the music and they treat people like shit, I won't use them or frequent the room they play based on their djing.

I just feel we all need to be responsible for ourselves and our own morals and can't police the world, in this aspect. But that's just me. 

i look at it like this, the person making the most noise is usually the person with the most to hide and is the exact opposite of who they claim to be. IF I were to walk into a room claiming I have the biggest hardest cock and thus am the best fuck every woman in the room will ever have, I probably have a flaccid prick that can't do shit. BUT IF I sit there and am a gentleman and treat women with respect... I may be the best lover some have and I may be the worst. In other words actions are far more important than the outward bragging and how we are perceived can vary from person to person. 

X may say she never had a better lover (DJ, whatever) and longs for me, meanwhile Y says I was cold, impersonal and she had to leave in the middle, and then Z says I was ok but she's had better. 

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12 hours ago, panCDCA said:

to be honest, I truly don't give 2 shits about anyones reputation because I am someone who prefers to judge for myself. So what if someone wants to pretend or truly is endorsed by someone famous? I don't care. I only care in how that person treats others and in this case the music they play. They can be endorsed by God Himself, but if I don't like the music and they treat people like shit, I won't use them or frequent the room they play based on their djing.

I just feel we all need to be responsible for ourselves and our own morals and can't police the world, in this aspect. But that's just me. 

Agreed. So if someone lies about his DJing and lies about his reputation as a DJ and fakes emails and uses downloaded Youtube sets but pretends to play own sets then he / she quite obviously treats people like shit, right?

Or would you still say "as long as I like his music, all is fine"?

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On 10/13/2020 at 2:52 AM, Kemistry said:

Agreed. So if someone lies about his DJing and lies about his reputation as a DJ and fakes emails and uses downloaded Youtube sets but pretends to play own sets then he / she quite obviously treats people like shit, right?

Or would you still say "as long as I like his music, all is fine"?

Like I said, if I observed him/her treating others like shit and didn't just "hear/read" secondhand then no amount of good music will change my mind about him/her as a person. I can still patronize the room and hang with friends as I normally do now (90% of the time I have the radio off in a room occasionally I will turn it on if people start yelling tune). People can have whatever reputations they want to believe they have, what it boils down to is how they treat others at least in my eyes. 

Here's an example: I have a friend, who by what others told me was a big tipper when he was out with them and would never seemed to worry about money. He and I start hanging out and I don't see a big tipper or someone who doesn't worry about money, I see someone who barely tips the minimum and seems to be very careful on how he spends money. Now, I could think maybe he was a fake trying to impress my friends and he feels he doesn't have to impress me . BUT the reality comes out that when he was spending money he had it and had a good job so his income was better than most, then he lost his job and found out he had to really be careful with his money because it was running out. The point is circumstances change and they can change overnight these days, because of Covid lockdowns and infections, quarantines, etc... reputations come and go and change all the time... how you treat someone usually stays the same.

Not everyone likes me, that's fine everyone is different, there are people I don't like that others love. We all see people differently and sometimes the way we seem them is biased (good or bad) by the way they may remind us of someone from our past and it can be for so many reasons, the way they talk and act towards others, towards us, in person maybe the way they smell or dress... or here it can be their profile pictures in their gallery. We may not even wish to admit the bias but instead look for a reason whether consciously or subconsciously, to like or dislike someone.

 Back in the day I read a study that said no matter who you are, stats show that 1/3 of the people will hate you no matter what, 1/3 will love you no matter what and 1/3 will be social but not care one way or another. 

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