New tattoos and new design

[jawok]

I tried to write to @Lisa but i got no reply, i should write to @Gizmo, but it gets no response.
I will not produce tattoos without getting a response from them @THX
Only after their ok will I start producing them

On 8/3/2020 at 6:58 AM, THX said:

Jawok. it's been over 4 days. Surely you have around 50 tats done of the 100?

 

Can we see the 50 you have ready already??:P

@☙𝔼𝕩❧ YES. I insert them in the next one, they are really beautiful
Do you have any ideas to include?

On 8/3/2020 at 11:10 AM, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ said:

Right picture

 

[jawok]

The idea is nice, but I don't see many people asking me for it. I would be the first to wear one @Alliehotass
 

On 8/3/2020 at 10:35 AM, Alliehotass said:

How about some Geek Tattoos, something different.

 

[☙𝔼𝕩❧]

18 minutes ago, jawok said:

@☙𝔼𝕩❧ YES. I insert them in the next one, they are really beautiful
Do you have any ideas to include?

 

There are some others. I don`t think that everything should be the same themed.

R1/R2:

OR this

T3/T4:

RL2

LL3/RL3(it looks good for different legs )

[Leeloo]

this patreon thing for the poses will totally kill the number of lesbian poses made unless a lesbian pay for some. Happy changes... 3DX is close to become Achat 3.0

[Loruna]

3 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

this patreon thing for the poses will totally kill the number of lesbian poses made unless a lesbian pay for some. Happy changes... 3DX is close to become Achat 3.0

And what exactly has patreon to do with lesbian poses?

Just so you know. I just finished some days ago a FFF pose, two infact, for the couch. Its just cuddling but better than nothing.
And I am in contact with a lesbian to get ideas for such poses. Stop being so unpatient... lesbian are not the only group of people in this game.

[Leeloo]

i know we are not the only group, but we are, with the gays, the groups that are the less furnished in poses, and the fact that peoples now goes to patreon to ask for poses mean they pay someone to create poses (maybe some like you will do them for free, meaning no need to give money to your patreon to request a pose, but not everyone is like you, if it's how work your patreon)

[Aliviax]

21 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

i know we are not the only group, but we are, with the gays, the groups that are the less furnished in poses, and the fact that peoples now goes to patreon to ask for poses mean they pay someone to create poses (maybe some like you will do them for free, meaning no need to give money to your patreon to request a pose, but not everyone is like you, if it's how work your patreon)

we all know that devs dont exactly make community ideas poses wise ...but the good thing now is that you could potentialy request a pose (lesbian in ur case ) from a player that runs a patreon with 3dxchat related poses so they make it for you in the game   since u not gonna ever get it from the devs (as we have seen last years ) 

So hey its a good thing that players now make patreons so other players commision them for specific poses  

This can be applied to clothes tattoos and much more ...

Lets be honest now ..community asks for stuff many years and players dont get them ...now this can change ...ill use the Loruna example cause its the only friend i know so far doing this ..

you want a lesbian pose that u beg devs 5 years and have not get it ? Go to @Loruna and comission her to make it for you  easy 

imagine the same for clothes for tatoos ..Game will get so much rich content wise  

i wanna say again congratz to loruna for that awesome step  i fully support you sweetie  

and i realy hope many more step up and create patreons for poses and clothes for the game ..so we move into a new era with lots of cool stuff for the game ...

 

[Loruna]

@Aliviax Thank you for your words. Honestly the only reason why I created patreon is, because some friends asked me how they could support my work.
And in the end, I created that. First it was only the T1 thing. But I created the other two aswell because I got daily at least 10 pose ideas from people.
So on that way, people can support me and even request a pose they would love to have. The lesbian pose is for free because its my top prio to do them so people like @Leeloo are happy.
Thing is... I am no lesbian and more interested in Men. My imaginations for lesbian poses is a bit lacking, so... thats why I asked my lesbian friend for advice

[Leeloo]

27 minutes ago, Aliviax said:

you want a lesbian pose that u beg devs 5 years and have not get it ? Go to @Loruna and comission her to make it for you  easy 

imagine the same for clothes for tatoos ..Game will get so much rich content wise  

 

But to be able to write a comission in patreon, we need, first, to "support" the patreon  account (i think) (in loruna's case 5€ per month minimum if we trust one of your posts), it mean we need to pay to request poses. 

Now the question is how many lesbians/gays (as in the previous post we was targetting these two groups) will want to pay to have an amount of poses a bit higher than usual (if devs accept them) ? Not to mention that this "boosted" amount of poses would not even match the number of poses the others groups have for free (after paying the fee for the game like everyone)

Another point to take in, having players making few additional poses for lesbians or gays is ok, but would the thevs accept to make some "orientation exclusive" poses ? I don't think. All the updates with poses we have since years now contain hetero poses then a "FF" version of this hetero pose. And all the supposed lesbian poses we have are anal. Why ? Simple: If they do them vaginal, they can't give them to transexual. So instead, they do a TF or TT anal pose, then if lesbians want to use it, well, it's not a problem, after all lesbians have a pose they don't have to complain.

 

Ps: If the devs read this, just a request. When you use porn actors/actresses to create a pose, try to find some that don't act like porn actors. Almost all the licking poses (by exemple) are clearly poorly played by the actors/tresses. Personally, when i lick a pussy i don't turn my head so there is space to place a camera shooting the action

Edited August 11, 2020 by Leeloo

[Aliviax]

1 minute ago, Leeloo said:

But to be able to write a comission in patreon, we need, first, to "support" the patreon  account account (in loruna's case 5€ per month minimum if we trust one of your posts), it mean we need to pay to request poses. 

Now the question is how many lesbians/gays (as in the previous post we was targetting these two groups) will want to pay to have an amount of poses a bit higher than usual (if devs accept them) ? Not to mention that this "boosted" amount of poses would not even match the number of poses the others groups have for free (after paying the fee for the game like everyone)

Another point to take in, having players making few additional poses for lesbians or gays is ok, but would the thevs accept to make some "orientation exclusive" poses ? I don't think. All the updates with poses we have since years now contain hetero poses then a "FF" version of this hetero pose. And all the supposed lesbian poses we have are anal. Why ? Simple: If they do them vaginal, they can't give them to transexual. So instead, they do a TF or TT anal pose, then if lesbians want to use it, well, it's not a problem, after all lesbians have a pose they don't have to complain.

1st devs havent made lesbian poses cause im guessing in their mind not many will be happy since devs think lesbian comunity is very small ..think about it if it was ur buisness 1st you would please ur 90% player base and last ur 5-10 % ...

5eu is only for the WIPS she does  not to make u actuall pose lol u have to go on 20 or 35 tier i assume or u will comission her indipendently for a pose u want and u will pay when pose is being implemented to game ...you will have to ask loruna about that stuff and how she does things 

My Point is that now players can get poses they want from other players by paying  cause devs will never make them as it seems lol  (speaking from the last 5 years updates )

imagine that now you can pay a player asking him/her for a specific hairstyle a specific dress a specific pose a specific tattoo  and get it in the next update ..how cool is that  

Imagine 4 more player artist start doing this or 10 more imagine how the game will get so rich content wise 

and ofc the stuff that devs will make lol 

[Xizi]

1 hour ago, Leeloo said:

this patreon thing for the poses will totally kill the number of lesbian poses made unless a lesbian pay for some. Happy changes... 3DX is close to become Achat 3.0

Why? Just because people now making poses for 3dxchat or having patreons does not mean that devs don't make poses anymore.

And about what other players do... It's only up to them, they can do 100 hetero poses and zero lesbian/gay/tg related ones just because they want so. Or 100 lesiban ones and zero others. Or do only BDSM poses. Or only vanilla ones. Or only cuddles. Whatever they want. And it will be alright, they do it voluntarily. And there is also nothing wrong with asking for support on patreon. In the end everyone gets the poses these people made, not only the people who paid for these poses, so in long run everyone wins. 

And there is no adequate way to change it. I mean, what can be done here? Asking Gizmo to forbid content creators who make stuff for the game for free (yes, they do it for free because everyone getting the stuff, not only the one who paid) linking their patreon? Why would he do it? Demanding content creators to make it for all groups in equal measures? Well you or anyone else can't make such a demands, they do it voluntarily so it's only up to them what they will put their efforts into. 

[Leeloo]

2 minutes ago, Aliviax said:

1st devs havent made lesbian poses cause im guessing in their mind not many will be happy since devs think lesbian comunity is very small ..think about it if it was ur buisness 1st you would please ur 90% player base and last ur 5-10 % ...

Well they should please everyone the same way as everyone pay the same prices. I mean if an hetero and a lesbian want to buy a car, if they select the same car, they will not proppose less options to the lesbian just because less lesbians use this car.

5eu is only for the WIPS she does  not to make u actuall pose lol u have to go on 20 or 35 tier i assume or u will comission her indipendently for a pose u want and u will pay when pose is being implemented to game ...you will have to ask loruna about that stuff and how she does things 

So this is axactly what i say, peoples pay to request poses (exept if they are friends to the creator)

imagine that now you can pay a player asking him/her for a specific hairstyle a specific dress a specific pose a specific tattoo  and get it in the next update ..how cool is that  

No it's not because it totally twist the "pay once and get everything for free", so i will not do it. Understand me well, i don't criticize the artists doing poses or hair or anything, but peoples should not have to paymore than what they pay to the game to have more stuff.

Imagine 4 more player artist start doing this or 10 more imagine how the game will get so rich content wise 

and ofc the stuff that devs will make lol 

 

[Loruna]

14 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

But to be able to write a comission in patreon, we need, first, to "support" the patreon  account (i think) (in loruna's case 5€ per month minimum if we trust one of your posts), it mean we need to pay to request poses. 

Now the question is how many lesbians/gays (as in the previous post we was targetting these two groups) will want to pay to have an amount of poses a bit higher than usual (if devs accept them) ? Not to mention that this "boosted" amount of poses would not even match the number of poses the others groups have for free (after paying the fee for the game like everyone)

Another point to take in, having players making few additional poses for lesbians or gays is ok, but would the thevs accept to make some "orientation exclusive" poses ? I don't think. All the updates with poses we have since years now contain hetero poses then a "FF" version of this hetero pose. And all the supposed lesbian poses we have are anal. Why ? Simple: If they do them vaginal, they can't give them to transexual. So instead, they do a TF or TT anal pose, then if lesbians want to use it, well, it's not a problem, after all lesbians have a pose they don't have to complain.

 

Ps: If the devs read this, just a request. When you use porn actors/actresses to create a pose, try to find some that don't act like porn actors. Almost all the licking poses (by exemple) are clearly poorly played by the actors/tresses. Personally, when i lick a pussy i don't turn my head so there is space to place a camera shooting the action

I think you missunderstand this whole idea behind Patreon. Its something where you can support other people for their work. I added this commission thing just to give something in return.
That doesnt mean, that you have to "pay" for the poses. I will keep creating poses even if noone commission anything. And FF poses are on my prio as I said in my last two posts as well.
Its completely up to you if you want to support me on Patreon or not. Just know that its my freetime where I create those poses. Yes I decided so and I am happy with it. But there are people out there, who want to support me, because I do that. This has nothing to do with "paying for poses". Its more like "supporting the pose creator".

[Leeloo]

Well if peoples can make requests without having to support you first, it's good.

If they have to support you before being able to make a request, you can call it like you want but they pay for poses :).

Though, you seem to be in the first case yourself, but i'm not sure that all the creators will act the same.

Sorry if i'm not really clear with what i mean, english is not my primary language

 

Edited August 11, 2020 by Leeloo

[Xizi]

3 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

If they have to support you before being able to make a request, you can call it like you want but they pay for poses :).

So what? In the end everyone in the game getting the pose, not only the ones who paid for it. 

[Leeloo]

You think ? I'm sure that if devs accept to give a pose to lesbians (i forget gays intentionally because it's not my role to fight for them) i bet 10000 xGold that at best it will be an anal pose because they will make it based on a MT or at best a TF pose

Edited August 11, 2020 by Leeloo

[Aliviax]

11 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

Well if peoples can make requests without having to support you first, it's good.

If they have to support you before being able to make a request, you can call it like you want but they pay for poses :).

 

 

So u say ...hey make for us poses ..spend ur precious time in working for us ..and never support u or pay u for ur trouble lol sounds a lil bad dont u think  

creators should get paid and should get supported ....this model work for us and work free  is outdated back to the slavery era  

 

[Xizi]

16 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

You think ? I'm sure that if devs accept to give a pose to lesbians (i forget gays intentionally because it's not my role to fight for them) i bet 10000 xGold that at best it will be an anal pose because they will make it based on a MT or at best a TF pose

I don't think that something will change on devs' side. They probably are not going to do more/less lesbian poses than before.

And about players who are making the content – they can do whatever content they wish, of course as long as it have a decent quality and not go over the edge because it needs to be approved by devs. They only doing a good thing for the game and it's completely alright if people support them with a coin. In the end, everyone getting the pose, not only the person who paid for it so it's alright. 

And people who do it voluntarily does not have to make poses in equal proportions. You can't demand any equality in amount of poses released from them, they do it in their free time and it's only up to them what to spend it on. 

Edited August 11, 2020 by Xizl

[Leeloo]

15 minutes ago, Xizl said:

And people who do it voluntarily does not have to make poses in equal proportions. You can't demand any equality in amount of poses released from them, they do it in their free time and it's only up to them what to spend it on. 

Aaaannd this bring us directly back to my "this patreon thing will kill the pose number for lesbians" lol

24 minutes ago, Aliviax said:

So u say ...hey make for us poses ..spend ur precious time in working for us ..and never support u or pay u for ur trouble lol sounds a lil bad dont u think  

No, i say that I will not do that because it twist the "pay once and get all for free" thingy that we all agreed for when we created an account to 3DX.

Why do you think i never asked you to make a room for me after i learned it would cost me money ?

creators should get paid and should get supported ....this model work for us and work free  is outdated back to the slavery era  

No, creators should not get PAID for what they do in 3DX unless thay work in 3DX dev team. Supported, yes, paid ,no. And a support is when you don't need to pay first before ask for a pose (in the case of pose requests)

 

Edited August 11, 2020 by Leeloo

[Aliviax]

1 minute ago, Leeloo said:

Aaaannd this bring us directly back to my "this patreon thing will kill the pose number for lesbians" lol

 

actually ur wrong its the only chance lesbians have to get some lesbian poses ^^ 

all you have to do is pay 1 player creator  and ur good to go  

also u say kill the number of lesbian poses ..kill what ? u have got 0 hahaha u cant kill the 0 hahahaha 

[Leeloo]

The "hahahas" wasn't needed. It sound like "you have zero chances to have some hahaha" which is a bit irrespectful...

[Xizi]

7 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

Aaaannd this bring us directly back to my "this patreon thing will kill the pose number for lesbians" lol

I don't understand your logic. 

It can't kill the pose number for lesbians. It only can bring more lesbian poses or don't bring more lesbian poses. Most probably the first option.

[Loruna]

Okay... for the fourth time and this time I will write it bigger so @Leeloo cant overread it:

I will create lesbian poses next. Its on my prio list on top of everything.

And your last post just proofs that you are a egoistic person. I spend my time which I could spend otherwise, with creating poses for the game which you will enjoy in the end.
And you dont even have to pay me a thing. I will work on poses either way. You directly will be not inflicted by it. Nothing changes!

And Support means to support someone by your OWN WILL. I never asked anyone to go to my patreon. You not once said "hey thanks loruna for spending your time on poses" which would be a "Support" in your means.
You not once made a request for poses. So for you personally nothing changes. Nothing at all.

[Aliviax]

2 minutes ago, Leeloo said:

The "hahahas" wasn't needed. It sound like "you have zero chances to have some hahaha" which is a bit irrespectful...

leeloo the laugh is for the fact that lesbian got 0 poses ..so kill what ? 0 lesbians update nothing to kill from already dead i mean  

[Xizi]

Thank you Loruna. I love your poses and use them a lot. Especially the kneeling one, it was so much needed. But the other ones are great too!

Edited August 11, 2020 by Xizl