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  1. 1. Do you agree that 3DXChat needs transgender avatars?



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3 hours ago, Beryl said:

This is not true at all. Trans is more then just going from male to female or visa versa. Its so much more then that... and infinitly more complex
Its more then just a life style, its not a perversion, its not just a choice people make.

At some important part, this is really true.  In most countries, people must choose / identify themselves between M and F before getting a passport. But that's another story.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45914813

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50638629

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I've stated my opinion here a bit ago, but I'll say it again. 
As much as I would like to see trans representation there just is no way to do that. Why? Because trans-girls are just girls and trans-boys are just boys, regardless of the sex organs they were born with. Gender identity =/= sex so understanding that means, what I have between my legs does not identify/define me. Adding a third gender option is not the answer. Most of these backwoods replies compiled of "sissy/femboy" this or "futa" that... those are not genders people! I can only read so much of it before I really get upset and I'm not even trans! 

As for the sensitive women here upset about the dong option, get a grip Karens. It's just an option on your screen for those of us who enjoy fantasy, straps-ons and pegging our partners. If you don't want a penis then don't add one, or stop choosing bisexual poses. idrc

Making the sex organ fluid while offering both a male and female stereotypical presenting body choice could be a start. But I don't even know if that would be possible. It would give those who identify more masculine a way to express that while still having an option where their bits are concerned. Right now there really isn't much available. 

Anyway if there is a take away from this thread for you who actually read it, I hope it helps everyone to understand a little more about our NB and trans brothers and sisters. Trans people need CIS allies in their corner and that begins with listening and being open to conversation. 

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@Ghost Girl

This thread is not just about representation of MtF transgenders in the game or even transgenders in general. 

This thread about either adding another gender in the game or adding additional (genitalia related) lockable customization options to male/female avis. The second option seems like a better choice so far. 

Yes, I understand that gender identity =/= sex. Yes, I understand that sissy/femboy are not genders and futa fictional thing.

I called it "transgender avatar" not because it's some optimal/ideal name. I called it not because it's avatar solely for transgenders. I called it just because... How exact should have I named it? Shemale? It's offensive for many people, it's a porn word. Futa? Very vague word with no clear definition in western culture. Well, maybe tgirl would be better, but I afraid it would create same misunderstanding as well. 

Now, about WHY did I create this thread.

We currently have set of problems in the game related to current female avi:

1. There is number of people who always play with a cock using a female avi. Different people. TGs, sissy, femboys, whoever else. Does not really matter who. The fact is – there are a lot of people who do it. Currently everyone from these group should turn their cock on every time they logging in game, like it's not part of their virtual body, but just some attachable toy. On top of it – cock can be lost because partner chosen vaginal pose. And you can't even understand if it's vaginal or anal pose was proposed, because it looks the same. Yes, it's not an end of the world. Yes, it's not something terrible. But it's unpleasant and creates discomfort. To the point of mood-kill for some people. 

2. There is number of people who want to always play with a pussy and never see a cock suddenly grow on their avi. Yes, in MF it's not a problem. The whole other thing is FF and threesomes. Wrong position in threesome? You getting a cock. Want to offer a pose to your partner with a cock/strapon? Better not, you will grow a cock. Or at least you should not forget to first change cock to strapon. And then turn the strapon off. It's not terrible as well. But it causes discomfort to some people. And some FF poses actually starts with partner who were invited on top. So it's a real big chance to suddenly grow a dick if you forget to change it to strapon every time before someone invite you to this pose. 

On top of these two main problems there is also some additional ones:

Tgirl avis have pussy under their skirt/dress without underwear.

"Interested in" section consists only men and women.

Pubic hair work incorrect with a cock option on females, growing inside of the cock.

If at some point devs will add erection slider/tumbler it may be problematic with current system. Because it either will be for men only (which will cause rightful outrage from futa/tgirl avi playing players) or it will be for girls as well and then it will cause angry reaction from women if they will get erection slider/tumbler on their screen. Yes it can be called arousal slider/tumbler and for regular girl avis it can regulate the wetness of vagina but still. What if devs will decide to do few sizes of flaccid cock? How will it work with current system? 

I don't say that these problems can be solved only by adding additional gender option. Making some additional choices in character editor actually can be a better solution. But these problems exist. And it's not about only trans players. It touches a huge part of 3dxchat community. Every players deserve to be respected. Trans, cis, non-binary. And this thread not just about transgenders in 3dxchat. It's about problems connecting with current avatar/genitalia system and how these problems can be solved. 

42 minutes ago, Ghost Girl said:

As for the sensitive women here upset about the dong option, get a grip Karens. It's just an option on your screen for those of us who enjoy fantasy, straps-ons and pegging our partners. If you don't want a penis then don't add one, or stop choosing bisexual poses. idrc

And if you expect some respect form others would be nice to learn to give respect in response. 

If everyone will have "idrc" position about others' needs and concerns – we will not achieve any compromise. 

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6 hours ago, Ghost Girl said:

As for the sensitive women here upset about the dong option, get a grip Karens. It's just an option on your screen for those of us who enjoy fantasy, straps-ons and pegging our partners. If you don't want a penis then don't add one, or stop choosing bisexual poses. idrc

Fine, then give me the option to identify as a woman. I can't even do that to keep it off me 100% of the time! And make it so that it will never add the penis no matter which pose I pick unless I so choose it. As far as the the third gender, I'm just hoping it could fix my issues here.

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6 hours ago, Xizl said:

We currently have set of problems in the game related to current female avi:

1. There is number of people who always play with a cock using a female avi. Different people. TGs, sissy, femboys, whoever else. Does not really matter who. The fact is – there are a lot of people who do it. Currently everyone from these group should turn their cock on every time they logging in game, like it's not part of their virtual body, but just some attachable toy. On top of it – cock can be lost because partner chosen vaginal pose. And you can't even understand if it's vaginal or anal pose was proposed, because it looks the same. Yes, it's not an end of the world. Yes, it's not something terrible. But it's unpleasant and creates discomfort. To the point of mood-kill for some people. 

2. There is number of people who want to always play with a pussy and never see a cock suddenly grow on their avi. Yes, in MF it's not a problem. The whole other thing is FF and threesomes. Wrong position in threesome? You getting a cock. Want to offer a pose to your partner with a cock/strapon? Better not, you will grow a cock. Or at least you should not forget to first change cock to strapon. And then turn the strapon off. It's not terrible as well. But it causes discomfort to some people. And some FF poses actually starts with partner who were invited on top. So it's a real big chance to suddenly grow a dick if you forget to change it to strapon every time before someone invite you to this pose. 

You just became my hero Xizl. Thank you!

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19 hours ago, Ghost Girl said:

As for the sensitive women here upset about the dong option, get a grip Karens. It's just an option on your screen for those of us who enjoy fantasy, straps-ons and pegging our partners. If you don't want a penis then don't add one, or stop choosing bisexual poses. idrc

if you want to have a dick to have fun you make yourself your man character , and now to say enough to this crap , I AM WOMAN AND REQUIRING MY CHARACTER WOMAN 100% AND NOT A CHARACTER WHO MUST SATISFY YOUR WISHES TRAVELING MY RIGHT TO WOMAN

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7 minutes ago, YenneferVengerberg said:

if you want to have a dick to have fun you make yourself your man character , and now to say enough to this crap , I AM WOMAN AND REQUIRING MY CHARACTER WOMAN 100% AND NOT A CHARACTER WHO MUST SATISFY YOUR WISHES TRAVELING MY RIGHT TO WOMAN

For the last time.
NOBODY is taking anything AWAY from you.
You are a woman, period.
Stop feeling attacked because someone else wants something.
It's not about YOU.
You can do whatever you want. Stop being offended just because of this.
Again, this is not about taking anything away from you, stop being so stupid and hateful.
You are doing the exact thing you say 'men' are doing to YOU, you are becoming what you Hate. Stop it.

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33 minutes ago, Derai said:

For the last time.
NOBODY is taking anything AWAY from you.
You are a woman, period.
Stop feeling attacked because someone else wants something.
It's not about YOU.
You can do whatever you want. Stop being offended just because of this.
Again, this is not about taking anything away from you, stop being so stupid and hateful.
You are doing the exact thing you say 'men' are doing to YOU, you are becoming what you Hate. Stop it.

i do not like men who vote for their pleasure and create fake to vote no ... i pretend that the crap that the woman's body must be used only as they want is put to an end , we are in 2020 and still think that the a woman's body can be used and exploited and raped because one of their male rights , i want the end of this suck at the cost of making me hate even more than the males, want to fuck a futa or a trans ? that they fuck their ass between them without using my body with a cock i don't want

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7 minutes ago, YenneferVengerberg said:

i do not like men who vote for their pleasure and create fake to vote no ... i pretend that the crap that the woman's body must be used only as they want is put to an end , we are in 2020 and still think that the a woman's body can be used and exploited and raped because one of their male rights , i want the end of this suck at the cost of making me hate even more than the males, want to fuck a futa or a trans ? that they fuck their ass between them without using my body with a cock i don't want

You are not making sense.
Only thing that you are doing, is making yourself sound like a Bigot.
You go on and on about what 'men' do to you and women.

But do you not see that everything you are accusing Men of, you are doing yourself too?
You are just as bad as the 'men' you hate, if you deny Trans People their rights.

You girl, are part of the problem and keep making it harder and harder for anyone to get Equality.

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8 minutes ago, Derai said:

You are not making sense.
Only thing that you are doing, is making yourself sound like a Bigot.
You go on and on about what 'men' do to you and women.

But do you not see that everything you are accusing Men of, you are doing yourself too?
You are just as bad as the 'men' you hate, if you deny Trans People their rights.

You girl, are part of the problem and keep making it harder and harder for anyone to get Equality.

yes , i think you're right , but I'm so angry ... 

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3 hours ago, YenneferVengerberg said:

yes , i think you're right , but I'm so angry ... 

What is it that you want Yen?  What would make you happy?  Men are always going to want to fuck women. It's instinctive. It's what makes the world go round. And sex is the purpose of the game, whether its M/F, F/F. M/M or any variation of those.  I wonder why someone who looks at sex as exploitation joined a sex game, but that is a secondary issue.  First tell us what you wish to ask the devs to develop that would make it possible for you to experience your fantasy in game.

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53 minutes ago, SusanLouisa said:

What is it that you want Yen?  What would make you happy?  Men are always going to want to fuck women. It's instinctive. It's what makes the world go round. And sex is the purpose of the game, whether its M/F, F/F. M/M or any variation of those.  I wonder why someone who looks at sex as exploitation joined a sex game, but that is a secondary issue.  First tell us what you wish to ask the devs to develop that would make it possible for you to experience your fantasy in game.

what do i want? it is not clear ?
+ i have sex and i want to have sex only with men and i like that a man fucks me , i don't have sex with another woman
+ i want my character to be 100% female
+ that my female figure is not used for other purposes than that of a woman
+ who wants to have sex with a futa or a trans whatever he wants to do , use a themed character , never take advantage of the female figure and respect the woman as such

is it so hard to understand ?

do you answer a question ? ... why 100% man when you know that he uses the female figure to make futa or trans ? and the female figure is not 100% ? because ???????

my answer is that it is a game where only male pleasure counts and the female figure is used for everything a man wants

i don't want to be like that , i want to have my right to say no , i don't want my character to become a futa not even by mistake , i want and demand my integrity as a woman 100%

does a woman's life count as a man's ? in 3dx it does not count as that of a man, and this is wrong and it is time to stop this injustice

 

 

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15 minutes ago, YenneferVengerberg said:

what do i want? it is not clear ?
+ i have sex and i want to have sex only with men and i like that a man fucks me , i don't have sex with another woman
+ i want my character to be 100% female
+ that my female figure is not used for other purposes than that of a woman
+ who wants to have sex with a futa or a trans whatever he wants to do , use a themed character , never take advantage of the female figure and respect the woman as such

is it so hard to understand ?

do you answer a question ? ... why 100% man when you know that he uses the female figure to make futa or trans ? and the female figure is not 100% ? because ???????

my answer is that it is a game where only male pleasure counts and the female figure is used for everything a man wants

i don't want to be like that , i want to have my right to say no , i don't want my character to become a futa not even by mistake , i want and demand my integrity as a woman 100%

does a woman's life count as a man's ? in 3dx it does not count as that of a man, and this is wrong and it is time to stop this injustice

 

 

I too am 100% woman who only wishes to have sex with men.  I know it is annoying when women and futa's make a pass when your profile so clearly says you are interested only in men.

I also have no desire to be a futa even by mistake, because that is not who I am.  But I take no issue with those who identify as futa and wish to play the game as such.

I do think I understand you a bit better now.  You are upset by those who are men and play as women or women who play as men or those of either sex pretending to be anything other than what they truly identify as simply for the misconception that they may have more sexual conquests.  I think we all have had this experience and I agree it can be heartbreaking if the person is not completely transparent and then the truth is learned.  I know a few men who were married to women they deeply cared for only to find out the operator was a man in reality.  I am sorry to say there really is nothing that can by done by the game to prevent such events.  We just need to be a bit more careful in choosing our partners, and, more importantly, who we so freely give our hearts and trust to.  I am sorry you have had such an experience.  I know that knowing you are not alone is of little comfort.  All we can do is walk away from those who purposely misrepresent themselves, put them on ignore, and make sure they are aware that anything they ever had from you was not real because it was all based on a lie.

Wishing you a more peaceful game experience in the future.

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The truth to all this is that a lot of different genders are having to share the female gender. There is something like 50 different types of transgenders all of which are included in this game as females. If you take any female in the game you have know way of knowing which gender they are. All you have is preferences in what they are looking for which does not tell you which gender they actually are. I, as a female that use to play felt we are being disrespected by the game developers, we should have our own gender and not have to share it. If you are shown as a female in the game other players should be able to tell you are female, or at least play as one, as a lot of guys do play as females. To have it so we have to show it in our profiles, actually state we are a female, or have to say in conversation we are is BS. Guys don't have to do that so why should we. Why should we have to be really careful about the poses we pick to make sure we don't get a dick. Those poses should not be in our menus, females do not use them or need them. It just really seems we are considered not very important to the game. It is one of the main reasons I chose to give up the game. 

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it happens that I said no to women , i told them i don't go with women , i'm not a lesbian ...
their answer was that they were not women but they were futa , there is not even a separation between woman and futa


why don't they make a man with pussy and boobs ? then we call it futo .. it's ok for you boys who vote no and then use the female figure to do what you want ? too easy to use the female figure and even make women when it suits you ... and now to say stop

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13 minutes ago, Twiggy said:

The truth to all this is that a lot of different genders are having to share the female gender. There is something like 50 different types of transgenders all of which are included in this game as females. If you take any female in the game you have know way of knowing which gender they are. All you have is preferences in what they are looking for which does not tell you which gender they actually are. I, as a female that use to play felt we are being disrespected by the game developers, we should have our own gender and not have to share it. If you are shown as a female in the game other players should be able to tell you are female, or at least play as one, as a lot of guys do play as females. To have it so we have to show it in our profiles, actually state we are a female, or have to say in conversation we are is BS. Guys don't have to do that so why should we. Why should we have to be really careful about the poses we pick to make sure we don't get a dick. Those poses should not be in our menus, females do not use them or need them. It just really seems we are considered not very important to the game. It is one of the main reasons I chose to give up the game. 

So you would not mind a sign over your head indicating what you are as they do in other games?  In real life women who are lesbian or in transition need to tell future partners. So I don't see an issue with being transparent in how you identify in game the same as you would in real life.

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9 minutes ago, Twiggy said:

The truth to all this is that a lot of different genders are having to share the female gender. There is something like 50 different types of transgenders all of which are included in this game as females. If you take any female in the game you have know way of knowing which gender they are. All you have is preferences in what they are looking for which does not tell you which gender they actually are. I, as a female that use to play felt we are being disrespected by the game developers, we should have our own gender and not have to share it. If you are shown as a female in the game other players should be able to tell you are female, or at least play as one, as a lot of guys do play as females. To have it so we have to show it in our profiles, actually state we are a female, or have to say in conversation we are is BS. Guys don't have to do that so why should we. Why should we have to be really careful about the poses we pick to make sure we don't get a dick. Those poses should not be in our menus, females do not use them or need them. It just really seems we are considered not very important to the game. It is one of the main reasons I chose to gave up the game. 

my subscription ends at the end of the year , if no changes are made i do not renew and i invite women to do the same , we are objects, we are only boxes to use as they want , they only think of them and play as they want and do what they want .. makes this disparity between us and them vomit

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6 minutes ago, YenneferVengerberg said:

my subscription ends at the end of the year , if no changes are made i do not renew and i invite women to do the same , we are objects, we are only boxes to use as they want , they only think of them and play as they want and do what they want .. makes this disparity between us and them vomit

As I have said before, but I stress it more firmly this time, I am a woman on game and in real life, and I am only used by a man when I wish to be.  It takes two. If you are expecting a marriage proposal and life long commitment from everyone you fuck on a sex game your expectations need adjusting.

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4 minutes ago, SusanLouisa said:

So you would not mind a sign over your head indicating what you are as they do in other games?  In real life women who are lesbian or in transition need to tell future partners. So I don't see an issue with being transparent in how you identify in game the same as you would in real life.

whether it's a sign or what you want for men too ... m = male / f = female / s = shemale
there must be total separation and never more than a woman can be anything but herself , now we are only empty boxes to use , we are forced to say that we are women ... hallucinating

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2 minutes ago, SusanLouisa said:

So you would not mind a sign over your head indicating what you are as they do in other games?  In real life women who are lesbian or in transition need to tell future partners. So I don't see an issue with being transparent in how you identify in game the same as you would in real life.

It's simple, there needs to be another gender, not so much for the transgenders as others seem to think but more for us women. Men and women have by far the biggest numbers in real life with transgenders being well behind in numbers. Yet in this game women are not important enough to have our own gender. All the menus and game play shows just the 2 genders, male and female. With males you know what you get, if they are gay they show that with their preferences. But for females it includes all the transgenders and looking at what their preferences are does not tell you which gender they actually are. And that goes for all the females to, who should be the majority but because of the way this game has been handled likely is not, especially if you include all the guys playing as girls. If there was a third gender, one that included futas or what ever they wish to call themselves, and the female gender was left for females, then when you see a female in the game you can at least tell what they meant to be, or what they are at least playing as. Plus the female gender would not have all the poses we do not need or use. The truth is we already have female as brand in the game, the problem is it doesn't mean that we are, it means we are either female or futa. So as far as if I mind if I have a sign over my head to say I am female, it is already there, it is just not representing us properly.

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46 minutes ago, YenneferVengerberg said:

whether it's a sign or what you want for men too ... m = male / f = female / s = shemale
there must be total separation and never more than a woman can be anything but herself , now we are only empty boxes to use , we are forced to say that we are women ... hallucinating

I have  never considered myself to be an empty box.  I am always nothing but myself.  I am given a choice when sent an invite. I can say no from the start and I can leave at any time during the encounter.  No matter what I choose to do I am always a woman. 100%.  If you have been made to feel differently than your ability to chose the right man is broken.  My man never lets me doubt my value to him as a woman or as a wife or as a person or as a best friend.  Choose better men.

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