TashaTight Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 While diverse body types probably be interesting, how long do you think it will be, before the complaints about being ignored or overlooked due to being too obese with Avi start coming in. I dunno how this going to really make things better community wise, or lower the amount of constant complaints in any shape or form? R0bT and MeiLing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJP Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) I think adding body types/sliders would be a great idea as mentioned earlier! Would add a lot more realism to the game which would be great! Edited June 7, 2020 by JJP PrimmPriss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meilyn Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) well, i am really not sure how it would turn out. but the sheer possibility would be fine. And if it only is to serve private kinks and one could play a secret RP with a body type only for one night so to say and change it afterwards. We can save our avas already, so why dont make an obese one for a hidden RP, so to say Edited June 7, 2020 by meilyn PrimmPriss and JJP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudeAlex Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I would be happy enough if they added some long hair options to males... come on, I can't be the only guy with long hair around here ^^ PrimmPriss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I would love to see more handsome/beautiful and first of all ALIVE faces for men. Current ones mostly look like faces of some inanimate androids. I dunno how, but devs were able to make female avis look not only more beautiful (which is kind of natural), but also more alive than male ones. At least from my point of view. Dunno if other peeps see it the same way. Erythrea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) From what I've seen with 'Sliders'...which are usually referred to as Morphs, there can be limits to how much you can change body size and shape before you get bleed through in clothing. Some of the poses in 3DX already demonstrate this problem. Hands on extra large breasts for example. Edited June 15, 2020 by THX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaufin Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Too much body variety would create problems with animations, which in this game involves two different avatars interacting very precisely. I realize this is why there aren't many animations that involve breast play, because of the HUGE gaps in nipple placement based on the available breast sizes. There is a way to use inverse kinematic (IK) animation to tell one character's hand how to programmatically find the other's nipple and let the body follow suit. I believe 3DX is using only forward kinematic (FK) animation, meaning preset animations that don't change based on where things are located. In the distant future, it would be good if parts of the animations were adjusted to use IK. I think that's the only way to give people the body customization we want. *The downside to IK is that it's less natural looking. Programmers like it, artists might not.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay8I7xUC4-k (more about IK) In the meantime, I think existing animations could be audited to add "small", "micro", and even "massive" dick parameters to every animation, but that's still quite a task. Things I think can be done sooner: Additional face presets (I don't think the extra sliders are worth the work) Chubbier girls and guys, where existing animations allow it Add some jiggle to those animations, especially the spankings! Hoping for: Breast play poses (I think IK is the only way to get the hands/lips in the right spot) Xizi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretty Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 2:32 PM, Takisa said: there are those who will specifically make ugly faces thereby spoil the mood of others There are many players who already do all they can to look ugly as it is with the available options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackPine Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/14/2020 at 5:20 PM, Xizl said: I would love to see more handsome/beautiful and first of all ALIVE faces for men. Current ones mostly look like faces of some inanimate androids. I dunno how, but devs were able to make female avis look not only more beautiful (which is kind of natural), but also more alive than male ones. At least from my point of view. Dunno if other peeps see it the same way. Females are not only beautiful, but also unique. I frequent the beach just to grab a comfy chair or stretch of warm sand just to watch the women walk by. Each one different and drop dead gorgeous. As for the men, we are trying, but with more limited options we can end up looking like copies of each other. That's where effort in profile building and chat communication gives us uniqueness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, JackPine said: Females are not only beautiful, but also unique. Sorry, but I disagree. I know that we have more customization options than men but still... There are just a few good looking faces that are used by the 80-90% of players. Without ability to change face details like nose/lips/eyes/jawline separately we all inevitably going look like clones of someone to some degree. PrimmPriss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackPine Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 55 minutes ago, Xizl said: Sorry, but I disagree. I know that we have more customization options than men but still... There are just a few good looking faces that are used by the 80-90% of players. Without ability to change face details like nose/lips/eyes/jawline separately we all inevitably going look like clones of someone to some degree. Really? Maybe my relative newness is partly to blame. I will have to research this in deeper detail. My kind of project! Xizi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretty Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) On 6/14/2020 at 4:33 PM, DudeAlex said: I would be happy enough if they added some long hair options to males... come on, I can't be the only guy with long hair around here ^^ 99% of the men in 3DXChat already have long hair... on their female and futa alts. Edited June 17, 2020 by pretty FeliceCD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackPine Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, pretty said: 99% of the men in 3DXChat already have long... on their female and futa alts. 50% of me is laughing out loud at this! The other 50% is wondering out loud who I have been truly playing with! Stick with the laughing, Tim! DomGSix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) If you have some good artists make skins for the Current Avi's you'd be suprised what can be done with the current Avi's. If you look at this Avi, the face alone had around 100 Morphs (sliders). Cheek bones, up down, larger smaller... 10 or so for each of the nose, ears, jaw, eyes, forhead etc..... arms, torso, legs, feet hands all had their own too. Around 300 or so total. But there is just something unimpressive with how the Avi looks. The skin looks...old Gen, but it really shouldn't. But body looks more realistic. There is more than morphs to make a great Avi. You need art and Shaders too. Edited June 20, 2020 by THX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Prince Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 as long as we don't get THIS avi quality THX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manyasha Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 4:12 AM, THX said: If you have some good artists make skins for the Current Avi's you'd be suprised what can be done with the current Avi's. If you look at this Avi, the face alone had around 100 Morphs (sliders). Cheek bones, up down, larger smaller... 10 or so for each of the nose, ears, jaw, eyes, forhead etc..... arms, torso, legs, feet hands all had their own too. Around 300 or so total. But there is just something unimpressive with how the Avi looks. The skin looks...old Gen, but it really shouldn't. But body looks more realistic. There is more than morphs to make a great Avi. You need art and Shaders too. You're showing a very scary avatar, I think all these settings don't help him and he has a face net of such quality that there will be no noticeable change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PluushPuussy Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 THX curls his lashes! THX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomGSix Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) Guys cant make avis now with that many options they may just quit the game lolllllllllllllllllllll Can you imagine what kind of faces the guys would distort to smh or body types I think they are trying to avoid the hunchback of Transylvania and troll head type avis. I dont think the game wants to be trolls and old witches lol maybe they do ? shrugs lollllllllllllllllll Edited June 23, 2020 by DomGSix PrimmPriss and THX 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PluushPuussy Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 2:32 PM, Takisa said: there are those who will specifically make ugly faces thereby spoil the mood of others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Manyasha said: You're showing a very scary avatar, I think all these settings don't help him and he has a face net of such quality that there will be no noticeable change. Actually, every part of that Avatar has morphs. Your conclusion about change is simply and obviously wrong. IBoth male and female could be made extremely obese, to emaciated like Gandhi and everything in between. Ears could be made into elf ears. Eyes and face altered to be oriental or whatever. There are over 33 morphs for eyes alone as I demonstrated above. I am not seeing how you could even believe change would be 'minimal' with over 400 morphs fir every part of the body. Change could be drastic. So drastic there could be 'bleed through' or clipping of clothing. A problem I have also demonstrated elsewhere. I don't have to guess about these things. I know factually. One of the things that sets 3DX apart, is their shaders. Shaders and lighting. That is a main difference and a flaw that avitar and world suffered from and a small reason for its failure. The wise learn from the mistakes of others. Edited June 23, 2020 by THX 33 morphs for eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, DomGSix said: Guys cant make avis now with that many options they may just quit the game lolllllllllllllllllllll Can you imagine what kind of faces the guys would distort to smh or body types I think they are trying to avoid the hunchback of Transylvania and troll head type avis. I dont think the game wants to be trolls and old witches lol maybe they do ? shrugs lollllllllllllllllll Yes, that is another problem with so many morphs. For the new user it was overwhelming. That was an early screenshot before I really started getting the hang of morphs. You won't hear me criticize the face types we have - even the ones I don't care for cause I know how much of a bitch they can be to make. What would be best IMO for 3DX is to have presets like they have, but an advanced tab that has all the morphs. As you get used to things you can mod it drastically. Even better, would be the ability for users to save morphs thry create like world files are now that could be shared. And even better, let artists get a hold of the body and make skins along with Morphs. And no I don't curl my eyebrows Pluussh. My Avi was born with naturally curly long eyebrows. Your just jealous - and you should be. Edited June 23, 2020 by THX Cause Pluussh is jealous of my eyelashes. DomGSix and Aliviax 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PluushPuussy Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 13 hours ago, THX said: Yes, that is another problem with so many morphs. For the new user it was overwhelming. That was an early screenshot before I really started getting the hang of morphs. You won't hear me criticize the face types we have - even the ones I don't care for cause I know how much of a bitch they can be to make. What would be best IMO for 3DX is to have presets like they have, but an advanced tab that has all the morphs. As you get used to things you can mod it drastically. Even better, would be the ability for users to save morphs thry create like world files are now that could be shared. And even better, let artists get a hold of the body and make skins along with Morphs. And no I don't curl my eyebrows Pluussh. My Avi was born with naturally curly long eyebrows. Your just jealous - and you should be. It wouldn't be overwhelming if it had maybe five default faces to choose from. Then people could try things without having to worry about whether or not they could go back to Square One and try again or be stuck with a possible disaster. Default faces would be like a Save Game option, iow. THX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, PluushPuussy said: It wouldn't be overwhelming if it had maybe five default faces to choose from. Then people could try things without having to worry about whether or not they could go back to Square One and try again or be stuck with a possible disaster. Default faces would be like a Save Game option, iow. I dunno anything about the 3DX Avi other than we have half of things already. We have the preset faces already and they added more so I'd think that indicates they can add more. Maybe the 3DX Avi is similar to the one above, in terms of available morphs, or maybe the one above is more advanced. I believe the one above may be a year newer than the one here. It's about 5 years old. It could be just a matter of what Morphs the Devs want to make available to users. The recently released eyebrow morphs make me think this. Maybe, if you ask the Devs really really nice... and I bat my eyes, you can have luxurious eyelashes like I do. Edited June 24, 2020 by THX PluushPuussy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manyasha Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 I think the chat room has quite normal avatars. I do not feel a strong need to expand settings)))). Besides, it's just a porn game, its task is to relieve the tension no more))))))) do not turn it into SL and sims4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 I think that we have a decent amount of sliders for the body, but our avatars faces really lacking customization. I mean, all we can do about our face structure is to choose a face template and choose how far it is from the default face. I don't know how much devs can do about it, but at least something... Having sliders for nose, lips, chin, jaw, eyes... If not sliders – at least being able to choose them separately, not the whole set. Even the option to have a slider not just between face 0 and current face but between any 2 faces of our choice – already would increase diversity in faces a lot. Angelqueen, FeliceCD, ☙𝔼𝕩❧ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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