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18 minutes ago, Lux lnterior said:

Oh. Good morning Ex. Did you dream about me?

Let me repeat myself. You wrote many ppl left the game cause of Pandora.  No, they didnt.

If I remember good, you came back when They still didnt add anything except world editor. And your return in game was the worst thing that happened to me in 3DX. ;)
Well , at least admit I was a good english teacher.

 

I had such a good dream. "Good" can`t be connected with you. Thanks. 

Yes, many people left the game cause of pandora.  First of all, there were messages in wc from people who were blamed for nothing. It`s simple to get them. They are customers.

Second, I invited friends to 3dx and one of them left this in a month, came back to sl. Thanks to pandora and the hell that was happening around. I got to the forum the same day with critics.

You can`t get the simple logic. Any customer will never pay for the product that can`t satisfy them. If you didn`t see people leaving, it doesn`t mean they didn`t. I saw a lot of them. I was going with this to the forum. People here told you about that, but you like a crazy repeat your nonsense. There are devs, there are their statistic. If it was fine as you trying to picture here, they never change it. If a developer loses money, they probably do something about it. Logical? Or do you think that you know everything and everyone else is stupid? Yes, you are wrong in your conclusions and there many things which points on it.

45 minutes ago, Lux lnterior said:

And your return in game was the worst thing that happened to me in 3DX.

Yeah, you were hinting on it since first days i met you. Such a hater.

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Oh, I always had a soothing influence on you.You vent out on me, release it all and then you sleep like a little lamb.

Still, there was no exodus from 3DX, and this player base who is playing now is putting big pressure on server. Thats why Gizmo announced works on server.

I didnt write all was fine I 3DX.I only wrote there was no mass leaving for reasons you wrote. Nobody here told me anything. It was just you and your imaginary things.

WC calmed down after devs introduced 60 secs break. Thats what made trolls shut their mouths. It has nothing to do with what you wrote.

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You should leave your thoughts about lambs for anyone else. I didn`t say about massive leaving, I said about many people that can be serious as well for 3dx, but still many. Google the difference.

15 minutes ago, Lux lnterior said:

Nobody here told me anything. It was just you and your imaginary things.

Yes, my fault. She said that to everyone there includes you. My things ain`t imaginary. I use internet unlike you. You can try this as well.

17 minutes ago, Lux lnterior said:

WC calmed down after devs introduced 60 secs break. Thats what made trolls shut their mouths. It has nothing to do with what you wrote.

For the first time, the WC calmed down after they changed the ignore system. WC was calmed about things connected with pandora which were creating blaming, shaming and fake news. This is a fact. I am sorry if your eyes were somewhere else, but not in the world chat.

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You got it all wrong. Ppl used that program to try to fight fake news, fakery and decieving.That was a nightmare for trolls and stalkers. But like a wrote on other topic, it was a hack and hacks need to removed from game.

I only wished accountwide ignore back. Thats all. For example, I have 15 avis of one dude on ignore list. He creates alt after alt. With accountwide ignore I just had to ignore one avi.

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2 hours ago, Lux lnterior said:

You got it all wrong. Ppl used that program to try to fight fake news, fakery and decieving.That was a nightmare for trolls and stalkers. But like a wrote on other topic, it was a hack and hacks need to removed from game.

I only wished accountwide ignore back. Thats all. For example, I have 15 avis of one dude on ignore list. He creates alt after alt. With accountwide ignore I just had to ignore one avi.

Don`t put words in my mouth. People used Pandora to track down people's accounts to find out their alts for blaming people for this, without any knowledge of why they used alts, which is stupid because many people used it for the world editor and still use it this way. When Pandora got a reputation for being something trusting, World Chat and some local chats was in links to screenshots, the bad ones started using photoshop on them, spreading fake news. There were a simple logic for 3dx people: no pandora, no problem. 

I myself would like account wide ignore system back, but with a good level of security to avoid old drama times and to keep privacy which is a must today.

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Posted (edited)

So basically you say that ppl use alts for building in world editor? hahahahahahaha

This dude is either totally oblivious or just a pro troller....or a known multiaccount alt hopper ;)

 

 

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1 hour ago, Lux lnterior said:

So basically you say that ppl use alts for building in world editor? hahahahahahaha

This dude is either totally oblivious or just a pro troller....or a known multiaccount alt hopper ;)

Yes, people use alts in WE. Is this something new for you? Which dude? Who is multiaccount alt hopper? What are you talking about? Can you be correct sometimes?

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7 minutes ago, PluushPuussy said:

I use an alt, and it's for a little privacy.  Alt's aren't all 'dirty socks'.

you should wash your socks sometimes. I do however get what you are saying, when i am working i will usually use an alt so im not bugged but i can still read wc, etc

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I'm thinking for no interruptions while you're mapping, planning, and working past the draft. When they see their ideas and wonder if it's close enough to what they imagined, and all of that. I would probably alt, too.

 

Only chattin, b/c the clubs are all sex right now. 

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The comma was important

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36 minutes ago, R0bT said:

Ok, I will Bite, why in the fuck would you need an alt to build?

For peace and quiet. Like you yourself say "when i am working i will usually use an alt so im not bugged".

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42 minutes ago, R0bT said:

Ok, I will Bite, why in the fuck would you need an alt to build?

1. Builders who do really good builds are trying to be perfect in details. Complicated sofas,couches, beds,stools and what not, needs to fit with poses. It connected with group sex poses, because there are Betty and Bob for couple poses. For 3some builders should get an alt. But it is a small amount of builders. I hope I didn`t hurt any builder here.

2. It is cool to manage. I have a big build on my main character, I have another build on my second character and I use 3rd character as a base for details, parts for main builds. I create a text and stuff on my 3rd. Is more easier than to upload file by file and everything is clear in my head.

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3. Some people use characters to save their builds on the server, but it is a way better to save it somewhere else like at google drive.

Edited by ☙𝔼𝕩❧

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In all honesty I can't understand what so wrong to use an alt. Even for sex.

I mean yes, if you are in exclusive relationship and made vows – fucking around on alt can be pretty nasty. Using alt to fuck with people heads talking with them on your alt and not revealing that it's you, making them believe that it's two (or 3 or 10) different people – nasty and fucked up. Or creating alt for trolling and personal attacks. Or to impersonate other person. Or maybe some other nasty stuff like those. I agree, it's wrong things to do. 

But what's so wrong about alts in general, even if used for sex/RP? For example some dominant girl or even guy can have a subby side and prefer using an alt for it. Or someone have a really slutty side, wanting to participate in public sex, kinks, etc. Some side that they ashamed to show people around on their main avi, so when they feels this way – they are using alt for it. I genuinely can't understand what is wrong about it. Is person obliged to show their internet friends EVERY side of their personality? Well, maybe in some utopia world without judgemental people – yes, but I believe that person have a right to keep some aspects of their life private. Hell, I don't show EVERY aspect of myself even to my rl friends. Like, only two of my rl friends know that I play 3dxchat and I don't feel that I am a bad person because of not informing others about it. 

I remember I saw other threads with discussion about alts and there some people were using the point, that it's not about privacy. That privacy is about person's rl address, name, credit card, etc and alts is about being transparent. Okay, maybe. But... Am I really obliged to be transparent? Because my life experience tells me that almost no one is transparent, even in real life, and I think it's pretty much alright, it's how human society works. 

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I don't see anything wrong with using alts, unless you're actively trying to deceive someone. Like @Xizl says, we have not want to share all aspects of ourselves with people, strangers or close friends, and there's nothing wrong with that.

But given how sensitive a subject alts are for some users, I list my alternate avis on my profile to avoid nasty business. As for what I use them for? Well, I have a male alt for when I want to try male poses, and a fantasy-rp avi for when I'm hitting on elves and orcs and what have you :P I might even make a sci-fi avi eventually for Coriolis. 

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1 hour ago, Xizl said:

In all honesty I can't understand what so wrong to use an alt. Even for sex.

I mean yes, if you are in exclusive relationship and made vows – fucking around on alt can be pretty nasty. Using alt to fuck with people heads talking with them on your alt and not revealing that it's you, making them believe that it's two (or 3 or 10) different people – nasty and fucked up. Or creating alt for trolling and personal attacks. Or to impersonate other person. Or maybe some other nasty stuff like those. I agree, it's wrong things to do. 

But what's so wrong about alts in general, even if used for sex/RP? For example some dominant girl or even guy can have a subby side and prefer using an alt for it. Or someone have a really slutty side, wanting to participate in public sex, kinks, etc. Some side that they ashamed to show people around on their main avi, so when they feels this way – they are using alt for it. I genuinely can't understand what is wrong about it. Is person obliged to show their internet friends EVERY side of their personality? Well, maybe in some utopia world without judgemental people – yes, but I believe that person have a right to keep some aspects of their life private. Hell, I don't show EVERY aspect of myself even to my rl friends. Like, only two of my rl friends know that I play 3dxchat and I don't feel that I am a bad person because of not informing others about it. 

I remember I saw other threads with discussion about alts and there some people were using the point, that it's not about privacy. That privacy is about person's rl address, name, credit card, etc and alts is about being transparent. Okay, maybe. But... Am I really obliged to be transparent? Because my life experience tells me that almost no one is transparent, even in real life, and I think it's pretty much alright, it's how human society works. 

Oh come on. Nearly everyone in exclusive relationships fucks around on alts.

This is the main reason why some ppl whine about disrupted privacy during the dark age of Pandora. Typical whiners were ppl who were shagging around on alts after wishing good night to his/her hubby/wife, or some "alpha BBCs" who were sucking dicks on their female alts.

There are plenty of online games with multiple character creation possibilities where alts are shown. In some, alts are automatically added to guild or clan when created.

But here is different. Here some people create one whole fake persona around an avatar. They build a story around it and they're afraid it will crumble down if someone sees they play other stories with multiple avis. That's that so called "privacy".

So my point is clear. I'm for transparency ..but not with some hack. If it's not possible without a hack, then I'm all for secrets keeping. ;)

 

Edited by Lux lnterior

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40 minutes ago, Nektar said:

I don't see anything wrong with using alts, unless you're actively trying to deceive someone. Like @Xizl says, we have not want to share all aspects of ourselves with people, strangers or close friends, and there's nothing wrong with that.

But given how sensitive a subject alts are for some users, I list my alternate avis on my profile to avoid nasty business. As for what I use them for? Well, I have a male alt for when I want to try male poses, and a fantasy-rp avi for when I'm hitting on elves and orcs and what have you :P I might even make a sci-fi avi eventually for Coriolis. 

I dont think alts are bad at all. If i had to guess i would say 90 percent of users have had one at one point . ive had hundreds

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4 minutes ago, Lux lnterior said:

Oh come on. Nearly everyone in exclusive relationships fucks around on alts.

Maybe. I don't know. I don't have a statistics. 

But what can I say for sure – not everyone (probably even not a majority) of people who fuck around on alts are participating in exclusive relationships.

Maybe it's just my circle, but most of my friends here are not into exclusive relationships. Yeah, they can have special person, but still openly fuck around with others. Big chance that they have an alts too. I informed about some, but probably the real numbers are much bigger. And I don't see anything bad in this to be honest. I have an alt myself. I was married, but I never were in exclusive relationship here, the very idea of being exclusive sex-wise in a sex game does not attract me. Not saying it's a bad thing though, just not my cup of tea.

11 minutes ago, Lux lnterior said:

There are plenty of online games with multiple character creation possibilities where alts are shown. In some, alts are automatically added to guild or clan when created.

Yeah. And there are plenty, probably even more, of online games where alts are not shown. And there are some where no alts are possible at all. Games are different. I don't see why 3dxchat should change the way it is. 

14 minutes ago, Lux lnterior said:

If it's not possible without a hack, then I'm all for secrets keeping.

It's possible if devs would want it. I mean if account wide ignore were possible, then making alt visible most probably possible too. But I guess devs prefer things how they are. And considering how much more populated 3dxchat became even compared with 1.5 years ago when I started to play – seems like it was not so bad decision.

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Posted (edited)

Xizl

I don't know what's possible or not. Probably account wide ignore can be possible without alts revealing but dev don't wnat to implement it, or it's vice versa..to implement it, they need to bring back the old ID system and make it all vulnerable to Pandora again.

If the latter is true then I'm OK with the status quo.

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Ahah, reading every your post, laughing, trying to be serious, but no, i can`t lol

First of all. i didn`t see where did you get you numbers and information. Every your word as was a lie and still a lie.

I have one active account only.Old one from 2015 I used in 2015 last time and many knows it. I don`t hide it. I gave just an example in that thread. I just started to learn english at 2018. Maybe I could put something like "for example", but i thought people got this right. Anyway, this can be seen in context.  That is why I was reacted on Robs post like what the 10 accounts he was talking about x) People hates me since 2014 partially because of my english. I hope today is better a little. I am not against if someone have many accounts, if this one don`t do anything bad. Okay, it was funny.

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gosh, such a hassle. cant you kids just avoid each other like normal humans instead getting on each others throat here? Oo

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