Torax

Hello everyone  

Check out the latest rooms shared, objects and even outfits share by the community!

https://www.3dxchatsharing.com/

I will also release some new objects within the next week, hoping it will help and please some of you!

Sharing is caring!

Hello everyone, doing a little party on Wednesday the 27th Sept at 8PM CEST, the room used for the party will be then shared as well as all objects in it! Sharing is caring!

Thanks to @CardinalCopia, @Oliver Cream, @Harlyn, @kitty and @New One to help for the opening! 

3dxchatsharing.com by @Torax

3dxchatstore.com by @SweetTia

Hell everyone, doing a little party and will share the party room and all items in it after

2 minutes ago, Ica said:

I did design a new room todays morning - thats why I did recognise this bugs. The snap step sticks to 0.1 - whatever I do enter at the settings.

once you enter the number, then hit enter on the numpad, for me it works.

9 minutes ago, sams said:

other things to note in world builder:

* the corner snap tool doesn't work on new objects. the guide tool displays at a random point.

* you can no longer change the texture of a group of items with one click, every single piece in that group now needs to be changed individually.

* the snap step distance cannot be changed from its original setting. you can input a new number, but the program doesn't register the change.

all of these things were broken in the beta, and I've seen them reported. they are still broken.

they may seem like minor things, but they increase the busy work by a heck of a lot.

For any builder, those ain't minor but major issue :x

1 hour ago, Ica said:

The big-picture in my mind is an in game-shop(s) for rooms and objects – even designs for free. Then you can make sure that content won’t be shared "illegal” and you will be able to define rules about what is allowed to edit and what is not allowed, and everything stays inhouse. 

How will you prevent someone to download objects from the shop, and then upload a whole room and sell it on the shop? Also, if all goes through the shop, how will you be able to create something for a friend without making it public in the shop? Some builders do co-building, so they need to be able to send the file to each others too, how can this be managed through a shop?

If it stays in house, it means we wont have anymore the possibility to access the world files neither, it means that many tools wont be usable anymore, and sometimes editing the world file is faster than doing it through the world editor.

Last but not least, today this feature is managed by players themselves who set up websites, and not even speaking about the tech side of a shop, the moderation and management time is huge, so they would need to hire people to follow this. Today if there is an issue with a downloaded file or people selling things they shouldn't, all these claims are not managed between players themselves and the devs dont have headaches with them :x

I dont see any miracle solution to the problem, and every solution will solve some things and create new issues.  The less-arming solution is to put a new protection option and let everyone decide to use it or not, let people decide also if they want to download rooms or buy rooms with read only activated. 

@Gizmo, would it be possible to make a survey on discord (not here cos only a fraction of the community comes on forum, and most of the times the dinosaurs :x here before discord was set up)? To have like a better idea of what people or dont want? Not only builders but also users of created content?

2 hours ago, OliverX said:

Generally speaking, and no matter what anyone says, creativity isn't about using bits and pieces of creations and mixing them together. This results in "Frankenstein" rooms with no unity whatsoever. Of course, adding a sofa here and there can be useful, but fundamentally, creativity will only increase if players are encouraged to create things themselves, at least that's my opinion.

As builders, it is easy for us to say they can build themselves, what looks easy for us is not for everyone. It is like a painter telling me "paint it yourself if you want it", well the result will be real bad cos I suck in painting.

I have seen some better rooms made by people mixing shared objects than some fully designed rooms. 

I think each builder has a different approach of his work, I personally dont give a s*** of what people do with what I shared, as long as they dont try to make profit from it, but I also fully understand that some have a more personal approach and dont want to see their creations altered. I am for a protection option for those who wants to use it. 

I just dont believe a protection will increase any creativity, it might just increase the number of files shared, and even this, I am not that sure, many people dont share their work because they want to keep it exclusive, and this also I can understand.

If some builders reading this now, could you let me know if you would share more of you work if you had this password protection or not? And why would you, or why would you not? Would you share it free or would you sell it? I have for now hard time to see what would be the consequences of it if implemented.

 I am fine with the password to block editing a file, why not, but that wont stop anyone to use a room in a video, or stop him to resell it neither. The password will stop people to modify a room, and if they try to resell it will be much easier to find out. But that wont stop people with bad intention.

I wonder also, with a password system, if you put a password on an object (which is actually saved as if it is a whole room), then this object cant be used at all, so the password is useful only to had a layer of protection for full rooms bu not objects?

Concerning giving credits to original builders, this is a lost cause sorry, some people already claim builds as their own while they editing nothing in them. 

Maybe what could be interesting, is to have some kind of medata accessible to anyone visiting a room,  and you can click maybe on some information icon in game, giving informations like file name, file size, creation date and builder name. This is just a thought.

15 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

I see what you mean. You want to give a room to other players, but you want them to be able to open the room for visitors only. And they can't make any changes to the room in the editor.

I understand you well, and there's something important here. Let me explain. That takes away the ability for players to be creative, to edit that room however they want. For example, they might want to add something, remove something, change the color, and so on. And that ability is taken away from them. How will they feel? What do you think about that?

Well, if it is clearly stated that they buy or download for free a room that cannot be edited, and they still bur it or download, then it is there choice.  It all comes to well inform the person. 

I can create new categories on my site like : Editable rooms / Non editable rooms and people will then know clearly what they get. And same can be done with the store I think, buyers clearly stating if the room can be edited or not.

You can also see it this way, without this option, some rooms will never be shared, so I prefer a non editable room but shared, than no room shared at all

7 minutes ago, Ica said:

well.. yes.. you do did missunderstand...Of course there are beautiful designs offered at "the free world"....no question about it

Then my bad and again apologies, I think I just got tired by self proclaimed best djs, best builders, and rooms with 40 dancers and so on and got carried.

39 minutes ago, Ica said:

There are two worlds we are talking here about. The one is the absolut free world. When you do share a design ingame; people can do with it what they want. I am even supporting this since years! But there is the other world. The world when people are so creative, having an outstanding, wonderfull designs and it is not a lie that someone did spent more than 1000hours to design something. 

Sorry but here you are saying that the free world is not about outstanding wonderful designs. Well sorry to tell you, but I saw people sell complete shit while i saw other give for free wonderful designs. I take it personally cos I do share my work for free, and you are kind of saying my work doesn't worth yours cos it is free. Let s be honest, most people asking for some kind of protection nowadays is for one single reason: protect their sales. There is nothing wrong about it, and I find even the claim totally legit, I am myself helping the store. But daring to oppose 2 worlds cos one is free and the other outstanding, I am sorry but I cant hear it.

Now this is my personal shoutout: I dont speak about you right now, but the more it goes, the more i feel some builders are feeling themselves like a cast or an elite, who should be above others, again not speaking about, and it is a global trend that goes as well for DJ, host, dancers. As amazing as some can be, they should remember they are not big in Japan but just in 3DX.

Edit: if i misunderstood your last message Icarus, then my apologies in advance.

5 hours ago, Xizi said:

I mean, if you would be stating it clearly before the purchase that you are selling room without password. Like... What the point of buying a place if you can't even change a color of the wall or change some furniture. Even if devs going to add some new objects with poses (like table, or pillory, or cage)- a person bought such a room would not even be able to add it to "their" home.

This is my main worry about this password thing. And a password wont stop people to lie and claim they built the room, a password wont stop neither people to resell the room if they want.

I understand the issues Icarus is raising, and he is right about them existing, but it is about balance. Password will protect builders up to a certain level, but not fully for sure, but on the other hand it would impact the whole community. Pay for a room that you cant tweak a bit, it would make no sense to me. Punishing all buyers for a couple of idiots, it would be kind of sad.  I dont have a solution that would suit everyone, so I will keep doing as I used so far, hoping people have still some dignity, my free items can be used any way people want, except commercial use. This said, i am not naïve and know some will still try to benefit from them, financially or just claiming them.

24 minutes ago, Diana Prince said:

So, it's his Pet Semetary?

Stephen King loves this.

On 8/22/2023 at 10:22 AM, Ica said:

Right now, people are starting to copy or merger rooms from other and start to sell it at the 3dxChatstore.

No, people don't start to sell copy or merged rooms on 3DXChatStore, all the issues we got so far are people who used some items, but there was no room stealing. We try to keep an eye on what is uploaded on store and managed all issues that could raise by removing anything that could cause an issue. I still think store is the safest place right now to buy and sell, since the items are only delivered upon completed payment and the store taking no commission on the transactions.

The rules on store are clear, sellers have to use only their own created items, or to be able to prove they got an approval for using someone else item. Any product not respecting this is removed.

While I fully agree that some layer of protection would be good, I think that locking files from editing would not benefit the community. What if someone likes a room and just want to add something in it for personal use or simply change a texture? And even locking a file wont stop people to resell rooms that ain't their own. 

By starting to sell rooms, we have all to accept we also opened the Pandora Box, where there is money, there is stealing. And nothing will be 100% safe.

Next month will the 5th year anniversary of the website To celebrate this, we added a hole new category: outifts!

You can now share your preferred outfits or download all for free!

Visit us on 3DXChatSharing.com !

I did some dome long time ago, it is not a mathematical one, I did a bit like Serenety.

https://www.3dxchatsharing.com/product/dome-by-torax/

It is a long time I didn't post here :x But we are still up and running and getting close now to the 4000 items online, so I would like to thanks again all the past and present builders who are sharing their creations!

Visit us at: https://www.3dxchatsharing.com/!

6 hours ago, SerenityWillow said:

First thing everyone should keep in mind, nobody knows who is who by a screen name, unless they know this person and the place of the streaming service.

If someone was to make their identity known, they cannot expect to keep it private.

Either in 3DXChat or a streaming site like say Chaturbate.

Anyone that streams publicly know that possibly millions of people will see it, and if they show any private info, they are the only one to blame if it got disseminated all over the internet.

So, if a person from 3DXChat is streamed, and their personal info was released, it is only because they told people who they are.

And I am sure the streaming provider makes you agree to terms before proceeding to stream, like any "Broadcast can and may be seen to anyone", anyway.

My opinion is, if you don't want your private info shared, don't share it with anyone.

Not sure you got the issue here. The issue is when someone is streaming but you have no clue about it. What if you are in pm with a good friend and share some stuff with him/her without knowing he/she is streaming?  It is the exact same issue like if someone takes screenshot from a personal convo and then put it on forum without consent.

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Hey everyone! 

This month 3dxchatsharing.com celebrates 4 years of sharing!

I just take a minute to thanks the hundreds of contributors who are sharing their creations, we past the 3000 items on the website.

Let's keep it going for many other years!

I am rather busy RL and not so much in game anymore, but be sure the site will always be updated and upgraded.

https://www.3dxchatsharing.com/

3 minutes ago, Tiazinha said:

 I think you didn't know how to read again ,I lost interest in talking to you.I'm saying goodbye.

the matter is closed For the third time.

Simply quote me the part where he requests the room to be removed and I will do it, simple as that.

Meanwhile congrats again to all builders who participated, and I am out.

4 minutes ago, Tiazinha said:

Did you deduce all this yourself? We're finally making progress, you know how to identify people's names and that's a good start.
  Now you come on behalf of PAGOS to say that everything is fine, do you know how to read? Or want to cover up the case.

Show me where Pagos has an issue and where he asks me to remove the room from the website.

12 minutes ago, Tiazinha said:

Got it, but you're here right? Was I talking to you now or was it someone else?

So what do you need to understand that I made a claim? Schedule a meeting?

As this conversation has lost its rational sense, I close the matter here.

 

Yes and I answer to you.

As far as I know, you are Tiazinha, not Justin who built the room, not Pagos who did the speakers, as far as I know you are not administrator of any website, nor are you 3dx developer, Lovense team or Redji, and still you try to teach me how to run my website, teach jury and organizer how to run their contest, and putting claim for Pagos while he doesn't  have issue?

The only one here who isn't rational, is you Tiazinha.

Your claim was "Justin used Pagos's item" right?  So now we got Pagos's answer ( nice one), and he is fine, case closed.

7 minutes ago, Tiazinha said:

No one will contact you because you already noticed the problem here. So I kindly ask you to wake up and do your job.

Read Pagos's answer. Noone contacted me because he decided not to claim and move on. You should do the same.

1 minute ago, Tiazinha said:

I must remind JustimCredible that I didn't make the rules up, he's not happy with the rules? He didn't make a small slip in the contest, it was colossal.

He broke the rule of all sites that support the game in using unshared objects in his room and giving free to everyone.
PAGOS was very gentlemanly and assertive in saying this to him.

What is the punishment that the builders who do this will receive?
The Banishing.

Remove his room from your site as it is more than proven that PAGOS did not allow him to distribute it for free to everyone.

I will kindly ask you to mind your own business and not tell me what I should do or not. If someone has a claim, they can contact me and we will solve the issue, it happened before and will happen again.