Feuermond

Okay, I am disappointed, really really disapointed ☹️
Where is the "fuck off" gesture? Where is the crawling? We waited that long for these new innovative things just to find there was nothing added to the system, it is just "adding poses" only again for what all the time was needed? (see https://discord.com/channels/537730036485193748/1041351208213942312/1143592730988138538 ) It was posted in August and nothing is done until now? Am I blind? Why are there still no panties in the new material system? Why is the reason for this not explained? One year later the promise to have all clothes with the new material system is still not fulfilled. New hotpants ony frayed like for jeans, how should one use leather material with them, why are there no hiders? It's not what I would call dedication for design and details, sorry. If I really do not miss to see obvious things, it really appears to me it is a bit back to the old ways: Things are announced but not released. This has nothing to do with why bugs are not fixed, this feels again back to the old ways. In fact nothing was ever promised, so it is formally okay but implicit exactions have been triggered. It remembers me of the posts where customizable clothes/hair was shown (not material but length an such) and then simply was never picked up again.

I would love to get explanations of what is going on and when things are to be released, what the problems are you facing regarding the new gestures and crawling moving, why there is this delay. You started to be communicative but in these cases it is just still not enough for I have not any clue what's going on and see the old things happen or not happen.

@Feuermond It's good of you to mention that. Yeah, I realize now. I thought we were almost finished and about to release the animation, but unfortunately, that wasn't the case then. I got the timing wrong more than once. So, to the question "When?" I'll answer, "As soon as it's ready," so no one gets upset about unfulfilled expectations.

Okay, I am disappointed, really really disapointed ☹️
Where is the "fuck off" gesture? Where is the crawling? We waited that long for these new innovative things just to find there was nothing added to the system, it is just "adding poses" only again for what all the time was needed? (see https://discord.com/channels/537730036485193748/1041351208213942312/1143592730988138538 ) It was posted in August and nothing is done until now? Am I blind? Why are there still no panties in the new material system? Why is the reason for this not explained? One year later the promise to have all clothes with the new material system is still not fulfilled. New hotpants ony frayed like for jeans, how should one use leather material with them, why are there no hiders? It's not what I would call dedication for design and details, sorry. If I really do not miss to see obvious things, it really appears to me it is a bit back to the old ways: Things are announced but not released. This has nothing to do with why bugs are not fixed, this feels again back to the old ways. In fact nothing was ever promised, so it is formally okay but implicit exactions have been triggered. It remembers me of the posts where customizable clothes/hair was shown (not material but length an such) and then simply was never picked up again.

I would love to get explanations of what is going on and when things are to be released, what the problems are you facing regarding the new gestures and crawling moving, why there is this delay. You started to be communicative but in these cases it is just still not enough for I have not any clue what's going on and see the old things happen or not happen.

Okay, I am disappointed, really really disapointed ☹️
Where is the "fuck off" gesture? Where is the crawling? We waited that long for these new innovative things just to find there was nothing added to the system, it is just "adding poses" only again for what all the time was needed? (see https://discord.com/channels/537730036485193748/1041351208213942312/1143592730988138538 ) It was posted in August and nothing is done until now? Am I blind? Why are there still no panties in the new material system? Why is the reason for this not explained? One year later the promise to have all clothes with the new material system is still not fulfilled. New hotpants ony frayed like for jeans, how should one use leather material with them, why are there no hiders? It's not what I would call dedication for design and details, sorry. If I really do not miss to see obvious things, it really appears to me it is a bit back to the old ways: Things are announced but not released. This has nothing to do with why bugs are not fixed, this feels again back to the old ways. In fact nothing was ever promised, so it is formally okay but implicit exactions have been triggered. It remembers me of the posts where customizable clothes/hair was shown (not material but length an such) and then simply was never picked up again.

I would love to get explanations of what is going on and when things are to be released, what the problems are you facing regarding the new gestures and crawling moving, why there is this delay. You started to be communicative but in these cases it is just still not enough for I have not any clue what's going on and see the old things happen or not happen.

Okay, I am disappointed, really really disapointed ☹️
Where is the "fuck off" gesture? Where is the crawling? We waited that long for these new innovative things just to find there was nothing added to the system, it is just "adding poses" only again for what all the time was needed? (see https://discord.com/channels/537730036485193748/1041351208213942312/1143592730988138538 ) It was posted in August and nothing is done until now? Am I blind? Why are there still no panties in the new material system? Why is the reason for this not explained? One year later the promise to have all clothes with the new material system is still not fulfilled. New hotpants ony frayed like for jeans, how should one use leather material with them, why are there no hiders? It's not what I would call dedication for design and details, sorry. If I really do not miss to see obvious things, it really appears to me it is a bit back to the old ways: Things are announced but not released. This has nothing to do with why bugs are not fixed, this feels again back to the old ways. In fact nothing was ever promised, so it is formally okay but implicit exactions have been triggered. It remembers me of the posts where customizable clothes/hair was shown (not material but length an such) and then simply was never picked up again.

I would love to get explanations of what is going on and when things are to be released, what the problems are you facing regarding the new gestures and crawling moving, why there is this delay. You started to be communicative but in these cases it is just still not enough for I have not any clue what's going on and see the old things happen or not happen.

Okay, I am disappointed, really really disapointed ☹️
Where is the "fuck off" gesture? Where is the crawling? We waited that long for these new innovative things just to find there was nothing added to the system, it is just "adding poses" only again for what all the time was needed? (see https://discord.com/channels/537730036485193748/1041351208213942312/1143592730988138538 ) It was posted in August and nothing is done until now? Am I blind? Why are there still no panties in the new material system? Why is the reason for this not explained? One year later the promise to have all clothes with the new material system is still not fulfilled. New hotpants ony frayed like for jeans, how should one use leather material with them, why are there no hiders? It's not what I would call dedication for design and details, sorry. If I really do not miss to see obvious things, it really appears to me it is a bit back to the old ways: Things are announced but not released. This has nothing to do with why bugs are not fixed, this feels again back to the old ways. In fact nothing was ever promised, so it is formally okay but implicit exactions have been triggered. It remembers me of the posts where customizable clothes/hair was shown (not material but length an such) and then simply was never picked up again.

I would love to get explanations of what is going on and when things are to be released, what the problems are you facing regarding the new gestures and crawling moving, why there is this delay. You started to be communicative but in these cases it is just still not enough for I have not any clue what's going on and see the old things happen or not happen.

Regarding the missing bug fixes you might like to read this:  Quo Vadis 3DXChat? Part II - New Ways Gizmo ones greeted me as "3DX biggest critic" because I said the same as you just did since years but finally he started to talk to me openly and honest and approved what I wrote about the current situation of 3DXChat and its future. It's not I am his biggest fan now because so far things in fact did not change and I still would love an even better and more detailed and, regarding times, more precise communication but so far SexGameDevil since some time does what say announce. Also they improved their communication and when I am able to deliver facts on bugs they listen and I get answers. So I think I stay a critic but also see a change to the better even it does not bring the highly and since long wanted bug fixes right now.

Okay, I am disappointed, really really disapointed ☹️
Where is the "fuck off" gesture? Where is the crawling? We waited that long for these new innovative things just to find there was nothing added to the system, it is just "adding poses" only again for what all the time was needed? (see https://discord.com/channels/537730036485193748/1041351208213942312/1143592730988138538 ) It was posted in August and nothing is done until now? Am I blind? Why are there still no panties in the new material system? Why is the reason for this not explained? One year later the promise to have all clothes with the new material system is still not fulfilled. New hotpants ony frayed like for jeans, how should one use leather material with them, why are there no hiders? It's not what I would call dedication for design and details, sorry. If I really do not miss to see obvious things, it really appears to me it is a bit back to the old ways: Things are announced but not released. This has nothing to do with why bugs are not fixed, this feels again back to the old ways. In fact nothing was ever promised, so it is formally okay but implicit exactions have been triggered. It remembers me of the posts where customizable clothes/hair was shown (not material but length an such) and then simply was never picked up again.

I would love to get explanations of what is going on and when things are to be released, what the problems are you facing regarding the new gestures and crawling moving, why there is this delay. You started to be communicative but in these cases it is just still not enough for I have not any clue what's going on and see the old things happen or not happen.

Adding poses and clothes is not really new. Looking at the last update we had the flares ok in beta but making the body vanish with hider too, this means they did not release what they showed us in the beta. So this way you might be right but it makes the beta pointless, when in the update to the main new bugs are introduced.

From a beta I would expect to have all features, that's what a beta is for, to find bugs, to get the software stable for release. Without the features the implicitly announced I suppose many will act like me: I do not care for this beta, the experiences with the last ones shows it does not help to improve the quality.

Okay, I am disappointed, really really disapointed ☹️
Where is the "fuck off" gesture? Where is the crawling? We waited that long for these new innovative things just to find there was nothing added to the system, it is just "adding poses" only again for what all the time was needed? (see https://discord.com/channels/537730036485193748/1041351208213942312/1143592730988138538 ) It was posted in August and nothing is done until now? Am I blind? Why are there still no panties in the new material system? Why is the reason for this not explained? One year later the promise to have all clothes with the new material system is still not fulfilled. New hotpants ony frayed like for jeans, how should one use leather material with them, why are there no hiders? It's not what I would call dedication for design and details, sorry. If I really do not miss to see obvious things, it really appears to me it is a bit back to the old ways: Things are announced but not released. This has nothing to do with why bugs are not fixed, this feels again back to the old ways. In fact nothing was ever promised, so it is formally okay but implicit exactions have been triggered. It remembers me of the posts where customizable clothes/hair was shown (not material but length an such) and then simply was never picked up again.

I would love to get explanations of what is going on and when things are to be released, what the problems are you facing regarding the new gestures and crawling moving, why there is this delay. You started to be communicative but in these cases it is just still not enough for I have not any clue what's going on and see the old things happen or not happen.

Okay, I am disappointed, really really disapointed ☹️
Where is the "fuck off" gesture? Where is the crawling? We waited that long for these new innovative things just to find there was nothing added to the system, it is just "adding poses" only again for what all the time was needed? (see https://discord.com/channels/537730036485193748/1041351208213942312/1143592730988138538 ) It was posted in August and nothing is done until now? Am I blind? Why are there still no panties in the new material system? Why is the reason for this not explained? One year later the promise to have all clothes with the new material system is still not fulfilled. New hotpants ony frayed like for jeans, how should one use leather material with them, why are there no hiders? It's not what I would call dedication for design and details, sorry. If I really do not miss to see obvious things, it really appears to me it is a bit back to the old ways: Things are announced but not released. This has nothing to do with why bugs are not fixed, this feels again back to the old ways. In fact nothing was ever promised, so it is formally okay but implicit exactions have been triggered. It remembers me of the posts where customizable clothes/hair was shown (not material but length an such) and then simply was never picked up again.

I would love to get explanations of what is going on and when things are to be released, what the problems are you facing regarding the new gestures and crawling moving, why there is this delay. You started to be communicative but in these cases it is just still not enough for I have not any clue what's going on and see the old things happen or not happen.

Single poses shown at anim would be more attractive to roleplayers. What about texture and material system for the old clothes?

Okay, I am disappointed, really really disapointed ☹️
Where is the "fuck off" gesture? Where is the crawling? We waited that long for these new innovative things just to find there was nothing added to the system, it is just "adding poses" only again for what all the time was needed? (see https://discord.com/channels/537730036485193748/1041351208213942312/1143592730988138538 ) It was posted in August and nothing is done until now? Am I blind? Why are there still no panties in the new material system? Why is the reason for this not explained? One year later the promise to have all clothes with the new material system is still not fulfilled. New hotpants ony frayed like for jeans, how should one use leather material with them, why are there no hiders? It's not what I would call dedication for design and details, sorry. If I really do not miss to see obvious things, it really appears to me it is a bit back to the old ways: Things are announced but not released. This has nothing to do with why bugs are not fixed, this feels again back to the old ways. In fact nothing was ever promised, so it is formally okay but implicit exactions have been triggered. It remembers me of the posts where customizable clothes/hair was shown (not material but length an such) and then simply was never picked up again.

I would love to get explanations of what is going on and when things are to be released, what the problems are you facing regarding the new gestures and crawling moving, why there is this delay. You started to be communicative but in these cases it is just still not enough for I have not any clue what's going on and see the old things happen or not happen.

Okay, I am disappointed, really really disapointed ☹️
Where is the "fuck off" gesture? Where is the crawling? We waited that long for these new innovative things just to find there was nothing added to the system, it is just "adding poses" only again for what all the time was needed? (see https://discord.com/channels/537730036485193748/1041351208213942312/1143592730988138538 ) It was posted in August and nothing is done until now? Am I blind? Why are there still no panties in the new material system? Why is the reason for this not explained? One year later the promise to have all clothes with the new material system is still not fulfilled. New hotpants ony frayed like for jeans, how should one use leather material with them, why are there no hiders? It's not what I would call dedication for design and details, sorry. If I really do not miss to see obvious things, it really appears to me it is a bit back to the old ways: Things are announced but not released. This has nothing to do with why bugs are not fixed, this feels again back to the old ways. In fact nothing was ever promised, so it is formally okay but implicit exactions have been triggered. It remembers me of the posts where customizable clothes/hair was shown (not material but length an such) and then simply was never picked up again.

I would love to get explanations of what is going on and when things are to be released, what the problems are you facing regarding the new gestures and crawling moving, why there is this delay. You started to be communicative but in these cases it is just still not enough for I have not any clue what's going on and see the old things happen or not happen.

@Feuermond told us how to fix the bald avatars and other issues caused by a growing cache. Shania has made a tool:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1euHpDSjseoTXRzjiY6bAPZ3JXLbGTJrR/view?usp=sharing
Manual:
Ways of running clear3dx.bat:
-Remember to save it as clear3dx.bat
 If you edit it, the file might be saved as clear3dx.bat.txt and it will not work
-doubleclick the file, there will no remarks that it's ready and it will automatically closes the Command Prompt
-Open Command Prompt and drag clear3dx.bat into it, then press <Enter>
 after running is shows the status, be aware that the files must me in C:\Users<NAME>\
-Run it daily after your computer has started:
 add it to Task Scheduler, remember this must be done with elevated administrator rights.
Code:
    schtasks /create /sc ONLOGON /tn Cleanup3dxCache /tr c:\tools\clear3dx.bat
Of course you need to  move clear3dx.bat to: c:\tools\
Must be added to let it run in the Task Scheduler in cmd but it works from any folders
One issue is the persons using the \OneDrive\
Another might be for those not installing 3dx default, for them it probably also doesn;t work
[06:01]
I haven't got a laptop or PC with \OneDrive\enabled

That's not my point, my point is that each clothing item should fit to each other item, no holes in any clothing item in no pose, that hair does not clip through bodies and clothing in any pose and that at least in General locations sitting poses should not lead to arms and feet sticking in the table. This needs many, many adaptions but I would appreciate if they could fix at least some of them, it would increase my user experience dramatically. (I am none of those who sit on a stool in these often awful build "Sex no Chat" location with arms rested on air or feet stick into the ground and such, I need some better quality.)

That's not my point, my point is that each clothing item should fit to each other item, no holes in any clothing item in no pose, that hair does not clip through bodies and clothing in any pose and that at least in General locations sitting poses should not lead to arms and feet sticking in the table. This needs many, many adaptions but I would appreciate if they could fix at least some of them, it would increase my user experience dramatically. (I am none of those who sit on a stool in these often awful build "Sex no Chat" location with arms rested on air or feet stick into the ground and such, I need some better quality.)

This is an old topic but to say a bit what I got to know by just observing about how the clothing system works: Opening the “layer system” for all, as it is requested in this topic, is not an easy thing to do because in fact the clothing items are not an onion layer system like you know it from rl with tops and pants over undies and a coat over all. It’s more a system of meshes in which software logics and rules decide what to paint in which situation.
For instance the system is in a way, that it never draws any part of a bra as soon as you wear a top or a dress. Especially regarding the breast harness and the open jacket this might not be realistic but at least it offers an easy rule to wear any top over any bra. Converting this system of meshes into a real clothing layer system like we have it in rl, if the Unity engine allows it, I imagine a high effort which cannot be done on a short term.
Another example: If you have a close look to stockings you will recognize they are more in the skin than on it which means, they are more paintings like tattoos which is why the stockings are all toe stockings and socks and why panties appear over stockings. So taking the garters to the stockings category cannot work out because the garters are no painting on the avatar, they are really items over the skin of the avatar.
This is not to rate the clothing system of 3DXChat in any way, it is just to explain an actual status and why therefore changes are not easy to do and may last. I would have some suggestions for SexGame Devil of how to open some of the possibilities to everyone in the character editor but this is effort too and could lead to even more clipping issues we need to take care about as users than there already are in the standard system (e.g. through the hood of hoodies clipping long hairs) which should be fixed first form my point of view.

I never thought one of my posts will be get quoted and referred to so often. I am glad it can be of help. 🙂

It Worked!!
Omg! Thank you so much!

For those who need it:
 

Thank you noir desire for all your work!
But I'm sad to see that from all the wanted features only "xgold features", "additional clothes / hairstyles" was implemented. I can't see anybody asking for handbags (that can't be taken off) or food that you have to pay for.
The devs had the result of the survey now for almost a year. It would be nice to get some info from them if and when we get the asked for features.

As one of the oldest groups around, consisting of mainly rock and metal music fans, of whom some perform as the BONES band, we support the Red Baron Band's request for increasing  the amount and possible actions of the 3DXChat instrument's inventory. Until now just the one single instrument pose is available, while playing an instrument.
Furthermore, we believe music is one of the most essential parts of our virtual world, being played in different styles in every room. We support the idea, being able to express music in visible actions more variable too.
"Expressing music in avatar actions" from our point of view is basically possible in dancing, AND performing with instruments. It is our conviction that the abilities to express music as visible avatar action and playing various instruments, should be a more important goal for 3DXChat's developement.
The BDSMetal Gang with its band BONES herewith signs the Red Baron Band initiative for more and improved music instruments in 3DXChat.


 

As one of the oldest groups around, consisting of mainly rock and metal music fans, of whom some perform as the BONES band, we support the Red Baron Band's request for increasing  the amount and possible actions of the 3DXChat instrument's inventory. Until now just the one single instrument pose is available, while playing an instrument.
Furthermore, we believe music is one of the most essential parts of our virtual world, being played in different styles in every room. We support the idea, being able to express music in visible actions more variable too.
"Expressing music in avatar actions" from our point of view is basically possible in dancing, AND performing with instruments. It is our conviction that the abilities to express music as visible avatar action and playing various instruments, should be a more important goal for 3DXChat's developement.
The BDSMetal Gang with its band BONES herewith signs the Red Baron Band initiative for more and improved music instruments in 3DXChat.


 

As one of the oldest groups around, consisting of mainly rock and metal music fans, of whom some perform as the BONES band, we support the Red Baron Band's request for increasing  the amount and possible actions of the 3DXChat instrument's inventory. Until now just the one single instrument pose is available, while playing an instrument.
Furthermore, we believe music is one of the most essential parts of our virtual world, being played in different styles in every room. We support the idea, being able to express music in visible actions more variable too.
"Expressing music in avatar actions" from our point of view is basically possible in dancing, AND performing with instruments. It is our conviction that the abilities to express music as visible avatar action and playing various instruments, should be a more important goal for 3DXChat's developement.
The BDSMetal Gang with its band BONES herewith signs the Red Baron Band initiative for more and improved music instruments in 3DXChat.


 

Support this 100%.
I've been in game nearly 5 years now and nothing has been added in this area. It would be a very welcome addition.