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OFF TOPIC It's not a version. On a press conference East Germany announced new free movement rules for its citizens. When asked when the new rules will come into effect, SED (East Germay single political party) member Günter Schabowski answered, because not knowing it any better: "Nach meiner Kenntnis … ist das sofort, unverzüglich" (means "right now, at once"). It just marks the end, the preparation had begun long before. Here: https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/the-journalist-question-that-fractured-the-berlin-wall/

First of all thank you for answering. Coming to your question what I think about your words let me say it this way: I can understand your point of view very well and doing things at your own pace in a small team is pretty much okay for me. If you read back the Discord world channel, you will even find me on the side of having understanding for the new poses take much more time than 2-4 weeks. I do not doubt the new engine is an improvement and I appreciate you keep us informed about the technical progress. Still I have my user's side to look at it too. Let me explain where my expectation came from: The as pic quoted Discord post from your team member Zabi was under the mentioned gestures and new moving type which, from my view, at least implicitly, causes the expectation of the animation presented as preview will be released with the next update. I think we will never have the same point of view as we look on it from different sides but thank you for the clear words to avoid expectations, that’s something I can deal with.

Adding poses and clothes is not really new. Looking at the last update we had the flares ok in beta but making the body vanish with hider too, this means they did not release what they showed us in the beta. So this way you might be right but it makes the beta pointless, when in the update to the main new bugs are introduced. From a beta I would expect to have all features, that's what a beta is for, to find bugs, to get the software stable for release. Without the features the implicitly announced I suppose many will act like me: I do not care for this beta, the experiences with the last ones shows it does not help to improve the quality.

Enless captcha I faced when using VPN. It somehow seems though the site excpets my IP the captcha service does not, something like this. If you do not use VPN try VPN and empty your browser caches first. The same applies for the downloads, there seems to be contingent per IP and if more people share the same IP through VPN the contigent is at its end quite fast.

Okay, I am disappointed, really really disapointed Where is the "fuck off" gesture? Where is the crawling? We waited that long for these new innovative things just to find there was nothing added to the system, it is just "adding poses" only again for what all the time was needed? (see https://discord.com/channels/537730036485193748/1041351208213942312/1143592730988138538 ) It was posted in August and nothing is done until now? Am I blind? Why are there still no panties in the new material system? Why is the reason for this not explained? One year later the promise to have all clothes with the new material system is still not fulfilled. New hotpants ony frayed like for jeans, how should one use leather material with them, why are there no hiders? It's not what I would call dedication for design and details, sorry. If I really do not miss to see obvious things, it really appears to me it is a bit back to the old ways: Things are announced but not released. This has nothing to do with why bugs are not fixed, this feels again back to the old ways. In fact nothing was ever promised, so it is formally okay but implicit exactions have been triggered. It remembers me of the posts where customizable clothes/hair was shown (not material but length an such) and then simply was never picked up again. I would love to get explanations of what is going on and when things are to be released, what the problems are you facing regarding the new gestures and crawling moving, why there is this delay. You started to be communicative but in these cases it is just still not enough for I have not any clue what's going on and see the old things happen or not happen.

Regarding the missing bug fixes you might like to read this: Quo Vadis 3DXChat? Part II - New Ways Gizmo ones greeted me as "3DX biggest critic" because I said the same as you just did since years but finally he started to talk to me openly and honest and approved what I wrote about the current situation of 3DXChat and its future. It's not I am his biggest fan now because so far things in fact did not change and I still would love an even better and more detailed and, regarding times, more precise communication but so far SexGameDevil since some time does what say announce. Also they improved their communication and when I am able to deliver facts on bugs they listen and I get answers. So I think I stay a critic but also see a change to the better even it does not bring the highly and since long wanted bug fixes right now.

That's not my point, my point is that each clothing item should fit to each other item, no holes in any clothing item in no pose, that hair does not clip through bodies and clothing in any pose and that at least in General locations sitting poses should not lead to arms and feet sticking in the table. This needs many, many adaptions but I would appreciate if they could fix at least some of them, it would increase my user experience dramatically. (I am none of those who sit on a stool in these often awful build "Sex no Chat" location with arms rested on air or feet stick into the ground and such, I need some better quality.)

This is an old topic but to say a bit what I got to know by just observing about how the clothing system works: Opening the “layer system” for all, as it is requested in this topic, is not an easy thing to do because in fact the clothing items are not an onion layer system like you know it from rl with tops and pants over undies and a coat over all. It’s more a system of meshes in which software logics and rules decide what to paint in which situation. For instance the system is in a way, that it never draws any part of a bra as soon as you wear a top or a dress. Especially regarding the breast harness and the open jacket this might not be realistic but at least it offers an easy rule to wear any top over any bra. Converting this system of meshes into a real clothing layer system like we have it in rl, if the Unity engine allows it, I imagine a high effort which cannot be done on a short term. Another example: If you have a close look to stockings you will recognize they are more in the skin than on it which means, they are more paintings like tattoos which is why the stockings are all toe stockings and socks and why panties appear over stockings. So taking the garters to the stockings category cannot work out because the garters are no painting on the avatar, they are really items over the skin of the avatar. This is not to rate the clothing system of 3DXChat in any way, it is just to explain an actual status and why therefore changes are not easy to do and may last. I would have some suggestions for SexGame Devil of how to open some of the possibilities to everyone in the character editor but this is effort too and could lead to even more clipping issues we need to take care about as users than there already are in the standard system (e.g. through the hood of hoodies clipping long hairs) which should be fixed first form my point of view.

I never thought one of my posts will be get quoted and referred to so often. I am glad it can be of help.

As one of the oldest groups around, consisting of mainly rock and metal music fans, of whom some perform as the BONES band, we support the Red Baron Band's request for increasing the amount and possible actions of the 3DXChat instrument's inventory. Until now just the one single instrument pose is available, while playing an instrument. Furthermore, we believe music is one of the most essential parts of our virtual world, being played in different styles in every room. We support the idea, being able to express music in visible actions more variable too. "Expressing music in avatar actions" from our point of view is basically possible in dancing, AND performing with instruments. It is our conviction that the abilities to express music as visible avatar action and playing various instruments, should be a more important goal for 3DXChat's developement. The BDSMetal Gang with its band BONES herewith signs the Red Baron Band initiative for more and improved music instruments in 3DXChat.

Even better: It will happen but also in a way we did not expect

The thing with names is strange, there are several hints of design failures in the database. I once had 2 friends on my friend list (FL), let’s call them Bob and Alice, they have been married and it was in their profiles under “Married to” correctly, Bob was married to Alice and Alice to Bob. The Time came when Bob left 3DX and deleted his Avatar. Alice was still married to Bob but when you clicked on Bob the “Can’t view this profile” text for a deleted Avatar appeared. Okay, to have memory I think it is okay, to keep the married to entry and let it point into the void, all good here. But how did I wonder, when I one day clicked the Bob-link in Alice’s profile again and I saw a profile of Bob! There suddenly was a Bob again! The new Bob was from USA, the first Bob wasn’t even capable of speaking English which means the new Bob was not the old one for sure. So suddenly Alice was married to another Bob, to the one that has taken the free name. The other way round, the new Bob was not married to Alice, it was a one way marriage. It seems the relations between avatars are done by their names at times, not by their IDs, a design failure in my eyes. --- From another person I knew he deleted his 3DX Account but even when the time to reactivate the account was expired his avatars have been still available on my FL and clicking them has taken me to the correct profiles. (The avatars are gone now because the person wrote to support and asked to delete them.) --- => Everything is possible

It might also be caused by the DDoS defense system. Also in this case VPN can be of help.

You knew in advance that 3DXChat is for Windows computers only, if not so, you missed to read the information. There is not any reason to complain now because of your own fault to lose a laptop.

This seems pretty much like as if 2.9 is released, isn't it?

FYI: Lately @Gizmo continues to talk with me. He asked for procedures to reproduce issues and for assistance on the disconnect issue. For sure I support as good as possible, I want a flawless user experience finally with 3DXChat. I think we all want the bugs to get fixed and maybe some bugs will never get fixed but I was informed about a concrete successful bugfix which, I think, will be included in the next 3DXChat beta 3.0 update. (Please do not ask which bug. I was informed in private messages and not authorized to publish anything which means I leave this absolutely the business of SGD to publish their changes in the software.) It might not be 100 % of what we want but for sure in contrast to former times, SGD is now working on problems. For now, not forever but for now, that’s a from me.

Welcome @Varz, I think the majority welcomes and appreciates your aims and goals for better and open communication with the community. There is much to be improved but I also believe it is possible. I am looking forward to read more form you and will look for the according communication channels. Kind regards Moon

Dear @Gizmo, Regarding your statement on the beta bug fixes for build 450, see https://3dxforum.com/index.php?/topic/15207-3dxchat-30-beta/&do=findComment&comment=448827 I now have some criticism, respective review . Well, I think you might have expected this. I think we all highly appriciate you are fixing the beta bugs. But I think you ran a bit out of focus, so: Instead of adding new material for clothes and tattoos, please first transform all clothes to the new material system. There is still not any pair of panties in the new material system for women! Also please give women gloves, you did it for men, so please do so for female avatars too. Instead of new materials in the world editor you should fix the editor crashes, espically reported for room loading in the beta! I personally offered you help by providing a world file that causes the crash on different hardware. We are waiting badly for bug fixes of the bugs which have been already addressed before the beta, all the avatar dislocations, the broken f/f slwodance out of Idle 5, the awful female breast physics, to get them now finally fixed after years, just like you announced it in this developer blog 2 and in your tweet from December 2022! Regards Moon, CEO of Virtual Secrets.

Okay @Paulinus , I have some guesses for you for I think the problem is caused by improper memory management within the editor. You can do nothing about it, that's completly up to SexGameDevil, but I have some hints which could help you to get it working anyway: Before you merge, end 3DXChat and re-start. Close as many other programs as possible. If you need Word running or a browser, close as man documens/tabes as possible. Restarting your computer and then straigt forward, whithout doing other thing, trying to merge your room might be of help too. The effect of these hints is to minimize the chance the editor tries to write into already reserved memory for keeping as much memory unused as possible.

I am not exactly the biggest fan of SexGameDevil and what they promise and what they do, or better do not, Gizmo can tell you, but even less I am fan of trolling, so with this you will get three answers in one if you do not change your style, the first one, the only one and the last one: As long as you do not explain why it will break the community it is as good as my words: Gold tranfer will support the community for the better! So, you are wrong, sorry. A mafia boss would request 10 % every day after the transfer. Again you are simply wrong.

This would mean a constant change of the package loss rate on different routes, because my experience is at time it works better with VPN at other times not. 2 indications for overacting DDoS protection for me are: At times it seems a disconnect-wave runs around, several users are affected at the same time but not all. When they are back to stable, other face the disconnect issue. For me this looks like a system and the only explanation I have so far is DDoS fighting. At times I do not face a disconnect but a “Connection refused” red box. Trying the same IP again most often works. Seems like a typical repeat test: If the contact is tried again it is okay, if not it was an attack. It also appears the IP does not work at all but the next day all is fine again.

I wonder what the root cause is for these problems. I do not believe that's always some internet censorship or net outages. I more think the DDoS protection overacts every now an then ob spefic IP blocks or ports.

If you control the system you would not need to add comissions and checkboxes or anything to monitor something, you can simply log it. I think the comission is more to let us think twice before we use the functionality, to keep the business of selling XGold for money and it is a way to reduce the amount of XGold in 3DXChat, a kind of deflation.

I think this will not become a big problem. See: You can collect up to 300 XGold per day. This will be 300 x 365 XGold per year = 109,500 XGold. You can collect this per account and one account is, let's say, about 50 USD per year. So: Ingame 109,500 XGold are 50 USD. On the other hand: Buying 100,000 XGold is about 90 USD. So selling your own gold is somewhere between 50 and 90 USD, below 50 you have an own loss, over 90 there will be no buyer, it is cheaper to get it directly from 3DXChat. In the end, as seller, you can win around 40 USD per year and account, not that much. If you want to earn 400 USD per year you need to have 10 accounts first, 500 USD and then you need to login with each account every 24 h hours. Quite an effort if you cannot be sure anybody will buy the XGold. (Please note my figures are reasonable rounded, not exact, to make the math a bit easier and better to understand.)

Dear @Gizmo, it was long time from "almost finished" to now, but I admit after all criticism you have done it in a reasonable time: December to May is not that bad. Thank you for that. See you in times of more criticism but for now thank you for having the job done you promised.