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Xizi

Adding a third gender to the game  

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  1. 1. Do you agree that 3DXChat needs a third gender?

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    • No
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Yes, I had been informed that this subject already was discussed on this forum, but I play this game for already 9 months and read this forum almost the same amount of time – and I never really seen such a discussion here.

The game is evolving, the community is changing and I think now it’s the time to talk about adding a third gender in the game again, because I think that now there is an actual need in this.

Let’s face the facts – biggest futa location, that is full of people who play as girls with penises and people who want to have sex with such partners – is usually second or third populated one on the server. And besides it – there is sometime also some less populated futa rooms plus a lot of people, who play as a girl with a dick and people who want sex with them – just strolling around other rooms, not futa ones. So basically, at this point girls with dicks plus people who wants to have sex with them, males or females – is now a VERY large part of the player base, I would say close to 50%.

 

So what the point of adding a third gender in the game, if we already have a penis on female as an option you can ask me? Well, let me explain you what the pros of adding a third gender in the game:

 

1. Better identity for BOTH female players and players who want to play as a girl with a penis. Biological women will have to deal with less males playing as a females, so will have less problems with people distrusting their real gender. Girls with penises will not need to turn their cock on every time they are log in, like it’s not a part of their avi's body but just some attachable device (as it is now) and will be able to see their avi as it is all the time, including character editor.

 

2. There will be a lot less confusing and awkward situations for all players. People will not need to write in their profile that they are playing as a “futa” or want to have sex with one.

People who plays as one – can just choose it as their gender and developers can make it visible – there is exist different ways – add (S) at the end of the name (or some other letter) like it was done in some other sex game, add a symbol at the end of the name, make different colors for avis’ names (even in world, not just in profile, for easier search for the partner) – for example blue for male, pink for female, purple for the third gender.

People who search for a girl with a cock – can just choose it in their “Interested in” section instead of wasting profile’s space or making people wonder – “are they interested only in regular females or in all kind of girls?”

 

3. Better representation of the tgirl/futa avis. There are a lot of things that can be done to improve it:

  • Pubic hair actually at the pubic region, not inside of a dick.
  • Bulges in panties or flaccid penis instead of pussy if there is no panties and, for example, dress or skirt.
  • Flat chest option for some femboys/crossdressers/non binary people.

Though flat chest and flaccid penises – is something this game needs not only for third gender ofcourse. But subject is not about it, I bring this on now just because for third gender it would be especially important.

 

So, what the cons of adding a third gender? Actually I can think of only one – it will take time and resources of the devs.

 

And no, I don’t propose removing the cock option on the female avis. I know that there is exists some people in the game, who are into fantasy stuff – like playing with both cock and pussy or rising a cock during RP. I respect them and I think that they should keep this opportunity if they want it.

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This will not change anything. You will still have those awkward situations that you speak of because so many ordinary lesbians and female avatars are still men anyway. The futa community will not go out of their own way to choose this third gender when so many have the resources available to them already. By allowing a third gender to be created (which, let's be honest, will never be created in 3dxchat's lifetime) you open up a whole 'nother can of worms. What's stopping a few from asking for a fourth gender and then a furry gender or even an alien gender?

 

3DXChat doesn't have the capabilities to cater for any more "genders". 

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This will not change anything. You will still have those awkward situations that you speak of because so many ordinary lesbians and female avatars are still men anyway. The futa community will not go out of their own way to choose this third gender when so many have the resources available to them already. By allowing a third gender to be created (which, let's be honest, will never be created in 3dxchat's lifetime) you open up a whole 'nother can of worms. What's stopping a few from asking for a fourth gender and then a furry gender or even an alien gender?

 

3DXChat doesn't have the capabilities to cater for any more "genders". 

Amen.

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I think that they have already added most of the poses and stuff they would need do this to the game. Personally I think its a good idea and might make it a bit less confusing for some people. Futa's are simply far to common to not deserve their own gender here that wasn't the case in the past, but it is now I think, plus a lot more content has already been added for them. They could simply make it free for a while for people to pick which gender they want after adding it as an option. It would be nice if at least the penis was not the default option for the strap-on poses. Right now it seems like those poses are really made for futa, since some of them don't even work with the strap-on at all.

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This will not change anything. You will still have those awkward situations that you speak of because so many ordinary lesbians and female avatars are still men anyway. 

Some situations - yes, some - no. For example no more situations when some guy hits on a girl (who is actually playing always with a cock, because it's futa/femboy/sissy/shemale - does not really matter in this case) without reading her profile (or girl does not have this information in her profle) and then asks her to remove the cock, but it's uncomfortable for her - because she always plays with it and consider it as a part of her avi's body and then it's uncomfortable for guy because he is not into girls with cocks. 

Or situation when some, for example, crossdresser, who plays as a girl with cock and it's even clearly stated in the profile - who he/she is - are not sure if they should or should not approach some girl/guy because they have in their profile "Interested in: Women" and it's not clear at this point - is this only regular girls or all kind of girls. Yes some people made it clear in profile. But some are not.

 

The futa community will not go out of their own way to choose this third gender when so many have the resources available to them already.

Some are not, some yes. Futa community itself - is not a problem. Problem is - lack of clear identity and lack of honesty/understanding between people. I don't say that adding a third gender will fix all the things. It will not. But it will make the current situation better for sure. 

 

By allowing a third gender to be created (which, let's be honest, will never be created in 3dxchat's lifetime) 

And you have some reasonable arguments why thing that is very important for large part of the players base will never happen, I suppose? Or it will never happen just because you don't want it to happen? 

 

 What's stopping a few from asking for a fourth gender and then a furry gender or even an alien gender?

From asking - nothing. They can ask for it even now. But doing it or not - is up to devs. One thing is spendning time and resources to make a gender that will improve the quality of game process for 1/4 - 1/2 of the player base and other thing is do the same for 1/100 of the player base. No, I don't say that "futa" players is 1/4 - 1/2 of player base or that all of them will change to new gender. But it also a people who enjoy to play with girls with a cock who will benefit from adding a third gender.

 

3DXChat doesn't have the capabilities to cater for any more "genders". 

Are you from the developers team? Or maybe one of the owners of the game? 

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I think that they have already added most of the poses and stuff they would need do this to the game. Personally I think its a good idea and might make it a bit less confusing for some people. Futa's are simply far to common to not deserve their own gender here that wasn't the case in the past, but it is now I think, plus a lot more content has already been added for them. They could simply make it free for a while for people to pick which gender they want after adding it as an option. It would be nice if at least the penis was not the default option for the strap-on poses. Right now it seems like those poses are really made for futa, since some of them don't even work with the strap-on at all.

Yes, I agree. With an adding a new gender to the game - they also should make strapon a default option for females-top poses. Tho I think that cock for females still should stay as an option because of reasons I pointed in the first post. 

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You have to understand how much work it will take, it will need to do another body, as well as a dick that would lie underneath the clothes, so you will need to create new sets of clothes which underneath them .it will be visible that there are male genitalia that are not in active condition, then when there will be sex, you will need to switch dick to active condition. Should appear new buttons on the control panel to switch it all. it will be very difficult to update which will take a lot of time.I think that developers do not have time to do this.

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This will not change anything. You will still have those awkward situations that you speak of because so many ordinary lesbians and female avatars are still men anyway. The futa community will not go out of their own way to choose this third gender when so many have the resources available to them already. By allowing a third gender to be created (which, let's be honest, will never be created in 3dxchat's lifetime) you open up a whole 'nother can of worms. What's stopping a few from asking for a fourth gender and then a furry gender or even an alien gender?

 

3DXChat doesn't have the capabilities to cater for any more "genders". 

Khajiit gender, Elf gender... oops. this is a race, not a gender, but would be fun to get.

 

IMHO: they have capabilities, they don`t have much time.

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There has been some good points made by different people in this thread.

One in particular I think was Xizi, was when people make choices of who to go with or not by looking in profiles it should be more clear as to what you get.

As it is now when anyone goes with a female avi unless that person has clearly stated what to expect from them there is not really any way of telling.

All we have are 2 genders to show we are interested in in our profiles, and 2 genders to select for avis.

For male avis it is easy to tell, at least 99% of the time as most men who like men will have it in their profiles, plus "M" in all poses represents a male, the male avis are typical male.

Female avis and the "F" are left to represent all of the other genders, including females.

There likely is not any way of having our avis show anything but female when dressed, but it should not be hard to have multiple choices of what can be shown in our profiles.

It should not be left to people needing to add something in the text part of their profile, it should be a selection that we have to make that will show in everybodies profiles.

That way when people look they can see exactly what to expect.

 

For the poses there most definitely needs to be another category.

Poses with dicks should not be included in female poses.

A lot of the poses shown in the upcoming update are not for females at all, they are for bodies with penises, they are not female.

 

I as an X player in 3DXChat can say that I as a women in the game felt like we were being disrespected with this type of thing.

We are being asked just to accept this type of thing and even belittled if we try to speak up.

I as a female player should be able to have a way to show that I am a female, just like the guys can show they are a male.

Not be put in a clump of several genders that I could be taken for.

Why should we be expected to share our identity.

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I can't remember exactly how it happened but once I had a cock without knowing.

I think it happened because I picked the wrong pose once.

Is that how they appear, like when you pick a pose that uses them they just appear?

Or did I click the wrong button or something.

I never used them so I can't remember how they are brought up.

If it is from selecting poses that would have to be getting hard to avoid.

All I remember is it was a bit embarrassing when it happened.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Probably a "newhalf" would be a good idea for the third gender name. Calling it something like a Tgirl, TS or transsexual can offend real-life transsexuals, especially post-op ones. Shemale - too much of negative context thanks to porn industry. Futa... Well, basically it's all from girl with pussy and penis to girl with pussy and penis and balls... Too much unclear word and not really suitable. 

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A really easy way to fix that is only to create an option were you can select your default 'accessories'. I agree that it sucks when you pick a pose and a cock shows on without your knowledge. If we could chose between a cock or a strap as default it would be fine. But about being fooled by people, creating a third or a fourth gender wont help on that. Players will be always players, they will always try to fool you anyway!

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For a sex game in which all are free to explore their sexuality, changing / swinging in a different direction every day, I don't understand the need for more labels.  I thought the whole idea was to not get boxed into a label.  However, being straight female, it does not bother me one way or the other.  Options in the closet to chose as wanted/needed on any given day should not be an issue to anyone and sound ideal.

 

As to the poll?  I've not taken part as I feel since it won't impact me one way or the other it would not be fair to do so.

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For a sex game in which all are free to explore their sexuality, changing / swinging in a different direction every day, I don't understand the need for more labels.  I thought the whole idea was to not get boxed into a label.  However, being straight female, it does not bother me one way or the other.  Options in the closet to chose as wanted/needed on any given day should not be an issue to anyone and sound ideal.

 

As to the poll?  I've not taken part as I feel since it won't impact me one way or the other it would not be fair to do so.

Very well pointed! Im totally against labels, any kind of it...

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So would the 3rd gender get its own poses, or just use the same as the others, cause even they get mixed up and stuff. adding a 3rd is just gonna complicate an already fouled system.

would rather see an option for cock length on both male and female.

A cock removal for male, similar to female when it wants to play as futa, would better suit what your looking for with a 3rd gender.

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15 hours ago, TheLastVirgin said:

So would the 3rd gender get its own poses, or just use the same as the others

Well they probably will not have vagina related (I mean bottoming) poses, but in general they can have the same poses. But moving poses with cock/strapon in separate category is actually a good thing. 

15 hours ago, TheLastVirgin said:

would rather see an option for cock length on both male and female.

That's a good thing too, mhm! Bigger cocks, smaller cocks, hard and limp ones. Penises deserves some diversity too, lol. Tho while making soft/hard cocks probably will not take a lot of time to implement (at least if they will stay hard during sex), making a different cock's sizes will require work on tons of poses, so it's hell of work sadly.

15 hours ago, TheLastVirgin said:

A cock removal for male, similar to female when it wants to play as futa, would better suit what your looking for with a 3rd gender.

No it's not. I am sure you understood me wrong if you think that it's what I am looking for. Tho ofc I have nothing against cock removal/pussy add to male avis if some of players want so.

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It's a decent idea, but I'd like more options to actually change how my avi looks, not everyone is a size 8 after all :) Male, Fem and Other (hate the term Futa) Just give us more choice when it comes to the character model first.

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What to call the gender?, I think no matter what name gets selected there will be people that won't like it, so why not just have the same as in here in the forums "Not Telling" seems to be accepted by everyone in the forums. But I do think there most definitely needs to be a 3rd for a few different reasons.

There are and always has been different ways to play the game, some play it mostly as a game and others more like a second life and life like. The people who play more life like do mostly prefer things to be kept as close to what it is in real life as possible, most of them would want a 3rd gender to be able to separate things much like they are in real life. If a male gets together with a female they want that female to be female, if a lesbian gets together with another they want that lesbian to be female, and what I mean there is they have the right equipment, not something unexpected. It seems the gamers really don't care, or at least most don't seem to. But they should be considerate towards the ones that do and acknowledge there is need for a 3rd gender. They say it is not needed because it won't make any difference to their game. Well if it won't make any difference to their game and will to others games in a positive way what is the problem.

As for the menus, the 3rd gender will likely need all the poses that are in the female menu now, it is more the female and male menus that will change, and change for the better, there are so many poses in there now that we do not use. The female menu should not include poses that are for penises, strap ons yes, but if the pose involves a penis it is not a female pose, we do not use them, so why should they be in our selections. I am not sure how the male menu shows things but I feel fairly certain that there would poses that should not appear in the selections for them too if they are having sex with a female. Like going down on a girl just to find he is sucking a dick. If the gamers want them all let them have them all, but there are a lot of us that do not want our menus full of poses we will never use.

Then there is all the other problems it creates for the non players community, like us women being mainly assumed to be men because there are so many more men playing as females. If there were a 3rd gender there would be a lot of those men use the 3rd gender and the percentage of men playing as females would go down, so things there could only get better. At the moment it is pretty strongly suggested that there are about 80% of the female avis in the game are male operated, so if we use that figure in every 100 there are 80 male and 20 women operators. If say 75% of the males started using the 3rd gender then the female avis in the game would go to 50% male and 50% female operators. That in my opinion would make a huge difference to a lot of things in the game for a lot of people.

 

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1 minute ago, Phoenixsong said:

they should let everyone write in their gender preference where it says Men&Women or ?

Yes! Or add more option to choose for + option to write this section yourself if you can't find what you want. 

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