βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) Gold transfer between 3dxchat members. Β I see this feature as an investment in the quality of gameplay, interest for the game, as a platform for those who love to play and for those who love to be social. Β Just in a nutshell why I do the poll.I have seen many events such as fashion show, model photo contest, best dancer of the month etc. Most of event hosts want to reward their participants. I saw 5 gifts for the 1st place, 3 gifts for the 2nd etc.Why don't we reward them in a civilized way, by gold? Just this question was on my mind. Β Few days ago I was on fashion show(I will post few screenshots under spoiler) and it was fun, but something was lost in my subjective opinion. Some reward would be nice as a appreciation for participation. Not a gift, but gold. It would be awesome to spend it on everything you want. Right? We don't live and work for special tickets for bread, cheese or a pair of sneakers, as it was in some communist countries, but we are getting money. Just money and this is fair. Those gifts with pics are really cool in special situations, but seems we need a little bit more freedom. I hope, I am not alone with such a wish. Β Β How it was looking: Β How I see this with place for words from a sender: Β Β This feature can give us a reason and motivation to be longer in 3dxchat, to play more interesting, for helping friends, to create new events with rewarding, to buy a beer for a friend Β and so on Β In the end it will give us a breath of fresh air and freedom to use our money as we want. Β I tried to be short in words. Leave your comments.Thank you for your attention. Edited September 18, 2019 by ExHaran Rodin, Kaitlyn1989, Xizi and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaitlyn1989 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Voted YES, though more a visitor than community member these daysβ¦ this world along with Achatville Β are very important to me. My only link to connections I need. Β I would like to see XGold options expanded, just a bitβ¦ not so much as an economy but a way to personalize gifts and giving them more valueβ¦ would luv to import my own βGiftβ jpeg or gif allowing ME to express MY feelings, thanks n thoughts.Β And though there is a utility in place to gift a subscription β¦ it lies outside of game and not an option for all. If devs could somehow give XGold this same power could keep it in game allowing ALL in our community to participate. Β But all in allβ¦ pretty HAPPY as it is. Β panCDCA, βπΌπ©β§ and OLESYA 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Well, I voted "I will explain my dual feelings below.." so now is the time to do it:Β Why I think it's good?Β Because I actually agree with the ExHaran about what this feature can bring to the game. It also can help new players - for example collect 10.000 xgold for marriage together. Or for divorce, lol.Β Β Why I think it's not good?Β Because it will decrease the amount of money 3dx team gets. There are a lot of old players here with tons of xgold and they don't have anything to spend it on besides mostly useless gifts or terribly overpriced high-number gallery slots, overpriced so much - that some people prefer not spend their money at all, it's just stupid to pay around 100k for a one picture slot, even if you already have 2x times xgold more and have nothing to spend it on. It's still too overpriced to buy it. So if you will give this old players the opportunity to transfer their money - they can help other people, who otherwise maybe would buy this xgold. Less money for the devs can either result in decrease of speed/quality of development or increase in price of the subscription. Now the question - why the people who don't benefit from xgold transfer (who don't care about contests and events, don't have enough to help others, but have enough for themselves) should pay for other's fun or bear with other consequences of lowered income of the devs?Β Also, not good or bad thing (at least in my book) but you should know it - the ability to transfer xgold will drastically increase the extent of prostitution in the game. Because with the ability to get xgold from others - prostitution can actually be profitable. Now we have only the whores who doing it because it's their fantasy to be a whore. With xgold transfer and the ability to do an alt and earn money for a whole account - we will have tons of whores. A lot of which will be males pretending to be a girls btw. I am here not to judge and not much of a purist/moralist, and as I said - I don't think about this as a bad or good thing, but just be ready - it WILL happen if xgold will become transferable.Β OLESYA, Paulanna, robson and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopardus Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Also, not good or bad thing (at least in my book) but you should know it - the ability to transfer xgold will drastically increase the extent of prostitution in the game. Because with the ability to get xgold from others - prostitution can actually be profitable. Now we have only the whores who doing it because it's their fantasy to be a whore. With xgold transfer and the ability to do an alt and earn money for a whole account - we will have tons of whores. A lot of which will be males pretending to be a girls btw. I am here not to judge and not much of a purist/moralist, and as I said - I don't think about this as a bad or good thing, but just be ready - it WILL happen if xgold will become transferable.My gut feel is that this is a really bad thing, and risks driving many male members away from 3DX if sex becomes largely a commodity to be traded. I know I would hate 3DX to become like that, not because I am "cheap" but because for me and I suspect many other men, a 3DX sexual encounter is an opportunity to be valued for who I am (and for me to do the same for my partner) and not for what money or gift I have contributed. Having a marketplace in which xgold can be transferred for different purposes and can be be used in exchange for sex would for certain dramatically increase the motivation to try to profit from sex. Bull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Β Well, I voted "I will explain my dual feelings below.." so now is the time to do it:Β Why I think it's good?Β Because I actually agree with the ExHaran about what this feature can bring to the game. It also can help new players - for example collect 10.000 xgold for marriage together. Or for divorce, lol.Β Β Why I think it's not good?Β Because it will decrease the amount of money 3dx team gets. There are a lot of old players here with tons of xgold and they don't have anything to spend it on besides mostly useless gifts or terribly overpriced high-number gallery slots, overpriced so much - that some people prefer not spend their money at all, it's just stupid to pay around 100k for a one picture slot, even if you already have 2x times xgold more and have nothing to spend it on. It's still too overpriced to buy it. So if you will give this old players the opportunity to transfer their money - they can help other people, who otherwise maybe would buy this xgold. Less money for the devs can either result in decrease of speed/quality of development or increase in price of the subscription. Now the question - why the people who don't benefit from xgold transfer (who don't care about contests and events, don't have enough to help others, but have enough for themselves) should pay for other's fun or bear with other consequences of lowered income of the devs?Β Also, not good or bad thing (at least in my book) but you should know it - the ability to transfer xgold will drastically increase the extent of prostitution in the game. Because with the ability to get xgold from others - prostitution can actually be profitable. Now we have only the whores who doing it because it's their fantasy to be a whore. With xgold transfer and the ability to do an alt and earn money for a whole account - we will have tons of whores. A lot of which will be males pretending to be a girls btw. I am here not to judge and not much of a purist/moralist, and as I said - I don't think about this as a bad or good thing, but just be ready - it WILL happen if xgold will become transferable.Β Β Hi Xizl Why do you think that this feature will decrease the amount of money for developers? In my opinion this feature will increase it, I just forgot to say about it. Those people with tonns of gold was playing a lot to get 300 gold day by day(but I think they used it for photo slots lol). Other people who bought xGold, already gave their money to developers, it is fair. Devs got it and 3dx team getting money from us every month(20$/month is okay for such project). So don`t think about it as about a big problem. Their money is their money. But because of this feature they will get more, because transfer is a reason to buy more Gold for bringing it for any reason I told about.Now about people who should pay. Who did say that someone should pay? There is a feature and anyone will have a choice to pay or not.Β About prostitution. This is the oldest "profession" in 3dx and today they "works" for gifts. Or as you said for fun. It was and will be. Prostitution is a neutral thing and without prostitution,escorting etc, devs will lose more money than anyone can imagine. For someone this is bad, for someone this is good. But I trying to say about some freedom. Who wants to pay, they will pay. Who don`t then don`t. This a choice for everyone and I know that in 3dx a lot of people who will not pay. We have already tonnes of "whores"(I personally don`t like this word) and I guess this amount will not be increased massively, because you don`t playing free-to-play game and most of us are adult and paying for the sub. Again, this is a choice for everyone.Β Β Thank you for yourΒ opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) My gut feel is that this is a really bad thing, and risks driving many male members away from 3DX if sex becomes largely a commodity to be traded. I know I would hate 3DX to become like that, not because I am "cheap" but because for me and I suspect many other men, a 3DX sexual encounter is an opportunity to be valued for who I am (and for me to do the same for my partner) and not for what money or gift I have contributed. Having a marketplace in which xgold can be transferred for different purposes and can be be used in exchange for sex would for certain dramatically increase the motivation to try to profit from sex.There is already tonns of men who play a woman, nothing will changes in this case if we get the feature. This poll is not about it.I know many men who want to pay for sex. People are different and some of them have some kinks.Now about profit from sex. What exactly the profit? There is a lot of prostitutes who takes gifts, making reputation and some profit already. Beer =35 gold. Gift=300gold. I don`t think that all men will pay for sex after that or all men will be hooking for a beer or for divorce. I personally OK about escorts, prostitution, I don`t mind, this is their choice. They have fun as many of us in a different way. But with this money transfer people will be able to do more and more and some of us will be able to spend it on something good in the end.Β Have a good day and thank you for your opinion. Edited May 28, 2019 by ExHaran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopardus Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Nothing you said reassured me but I stand by my opinion, and welcome yours. After all, they are all just opinions. βπΌπ©β§ and OLESYA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Hello ExHaranΒ Hm, maybe you right about money - and the ability of transfer xgold will not decrease income for devs. Maybe even increase. Anyway, we can't know for sure at this point.Β But I am disagree with "So don`t think about it as about a big problem. Their money is their money." because if they will not have enough money - it will affect us.Β And about prostitution... Well, I am fine with it, but it really will increase a lot and it will change atmosphere of the game. Good or bad? I don't know, for me neither. But for some males it can result in even harder problems with finding a partner.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Hello ExHaranΒ Hm, maybe you right about money - and the ability of transfer xgold will not decrease income for devs. Maybe even increase. Anyway, we can't know for sure at this point.Β But I am disagree with "So don`t think about it as about a big problem. Their money is their money." because if they will not have enough money - it will affect us.Β And about prostitution... Well, I am fine with it, but it really will increase a lot and it will change atmosphere of the game. Good or bad? I don't know, for me neither. But for some males it can result in even harder problems with finding a partner.Β 3dxchat team will think about it. Their money, their business About atmosphere, I walking around public places and I see many of them. I mean atmosphere was changed many years ago, but not in a bad way. We have escort places, clubs, brothels, hookers who working alone. It is hard to find a place where I can`t see them. Our groups of people was separated long time ago and today I am not sure that one group of people(hookers) can push or break another group(DJ`s or dancers, or just group of friends). There are different ideas and atmosphere inside each group. Different interests. I trust that 3dxchat is a way better than achat(I found it boring) and social part will not be broken. Every man will be able to find a woman as well as today and more, man will be able to gift something to his woman. Anyway, if something bad comes to 3dxchat, devs can delete this feature anytime.Β What do you think about it? OLESYA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandorra Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I voted against. I know from another game where it is possible and I experianced it raises only one thing:Β Greed!Β Total turn off! Bull and Erythrea 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 I voted against. I know from another game where it is possible and I experianced it raises only one thing:Β Greed!Β Total turn off!Is greed a virus or people have a choice to be greedy, or not to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandorra Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Probably it isΒ a more or less distinctive part of human nature? Not the best trait anyway.Β However, you'd be astonished how common it is. Bull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopardus Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 And about prostitution... Well, I am fine with it, but it really will increase a lot and it will change atmosphere of the game. Good or bad? I don't know, for me neither.Β But for some males it can result in even harder problems with finding a partner.Exactly. It's not about judging whether prostitution is right or wrong, it is about how it might change the character of the game and make it harder for some men to find a partner without xgold being involved. That would be such a shame, and I don't think worth taking the risk of potentially ruining the game for many. Bull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopardus Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Every man will be able to find a woman as well as today and more, man will be able to gift something to his woman.And this is the problem. Please understand that sex is not just an act of physical pleasure to men. It is also about knowing that you are desired for who you are and not for what you gifted to the partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 And this is the problem. Please understand that sex is not just an act of physical pleasure to men. It is also about knowing that you are desired for who you are and not for what you gifted to the partner.I didn`t say that gift is a reason, but attention. Please understand that gift is not just a money for us, but at firstΒ it is attention, expression of some respect and it gives us to understand that we are necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niblette Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Using xGold forΒ prostitution is already against the game rules.Β "2.06. Begging/Soliciting in any form is prohibited in all game chats and channels. Begging/Soliciting includes but is not limited to: requesting users to transfer real money to the virtual wallet, asking for additional credits, and requests to transfer game gold."Β Prostitution is only allowed here as a roleplay using gifts. Now if a change was made to let people gift xGold that might change, and it seems like the rules are quite selectively enforced anyways. There are all types of rules they don't follow in the first place. If the intent though is really to send a gift or prize then the devs could just set a minimum amount for the amount of xGold that could be gifted. Which is reasonable for a gift, but to high for paying for sex. 1,500-2,100 xGold seems like a reasonable minimum to me.Β βπΌπ©β§ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Actualy any gift is a real money(except daily 300 Gold), so rules are rules, but Gold can be daily, daily isn`t a real money. Some rules was broken, some may be changed.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadWord Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I donΒ΄t want to get offered pretend money for sex, so I vote no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xizi Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 3dxchat team will think about it. Their money, their business About atmosphere, I walking around public places and I see many of them. I mean atmosphere was changed many years ago, but not in a bad way. We have escort places, clubs, brothels, hookers who working alone. It is hard to find a place where I can`t see them. Our groups of people was separated long time ago and today I am not sure that one group of people(hookers) can push or break another group(DJ`s or dancers, or just group of friends). There are different ideas and atmosphere inside each group. Different interests. I trust that 3dxchat is a way better than achat(I found it boring) and social part will not be broken. Every man will be able to find a woman as well as today and more, man will be able to gift something to his woman. Anyway, if something bad comes to 3dxchat, devs can delete this feature anytime.Β What do you think about it?I think that you operate things like there already were hookers or "Every man will be able to find a woman as well as today" - yes I agree with both. But the devil is in details. How much more hookers will be? I think a lot. How much harder for men will be find a partner without paying? I think noticeably harder.Β It's not going to affect my gameplay a lot. For some people it will make game better. Especially for ones with whore fantasy. They will be able to actually earn something and living the dream at the same time. For some male players it can make the game worse tho.Β Β Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Β I think that you operate things like there already were hookers or "Every man will be able to find a woman as well as today" - yes I agree with both. But the devil is in details. How much more hookers will be? I think a lot. How much harder for men will be find a partner without paying? I think noticeably harder.Β It's not going to affect my gameplay a lot. For some people it will make game better. Especially for ones with whore fantasy. They will be able to actually earn something and living the dream at the same time. For some male players it can make the game worse tho.Β Β Β Β In my opinion will be not so much hookers in the game, because everyone who did a hooker character, they already have this. New ones? Not that massively as many afraid about. They wanted gifts, after all they will want equivalent or will stay on gifts. I have this on my mind not because I want this feature(I want this feature by some good reason), but because I know such social games like imvu, second life, achat, etc. I know how it is going, why they have some problems and I am sure that here will be nothing like at other games. I may be wrong, this is my subjective opinion, but 6 years in a row and after many updates, big changes, 3dxchat staying nice. Nothing changed mostly. More trolls became to wc lol Gizmo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
βπΌπ©β§ Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 My main idea and wish is to use our money the way we want. Just it.Β Β Thank you guys for your opinion and vote. Still watching the poll, interesting to know different points of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandorra Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 In my opinion will be not so much hookers in the game, because everyone who did a hooker character, they already have this. New ones? Not that massively as many afraid about. ...Β And this is where I beg to differ. If there's really something to gain, you will see how it will spoil it. I was really a long term running on AChat. There's almost no char left without "gift me" in the profile.Β Disgusting!Β I won't like to see same here. So still no. Bull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymphpott Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Voted yes because it would be fun to be a working girl!Β Would be a nice way to hire Dj's for parties and maybe even builders for their designs. .Β Β I don't think the world would get over run with greedy prostitutes really. Maybe the first few days but then it would die down.Β βπΌπ©β§ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiggy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 This topic has come up a number of times and always the "it will create more prostitutes" comes up.I believe it was the reason gold transfers was originally taken away in the first place.For those who don't know, the game use to have gold transfer capabilities before and was removed.But really, worrying about people playing prostitutes in a game where there are guys playing as girls using pictures stolen form the net as proof, people playing music illegally and a whole lot of other things most would consider far worse than playing prostitutes.I just find it ridiculous that they are stopping gold transfers because of it. βπΌπ©β§ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niblette Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Well I assume the reason for that is there is a huge different between role playing as a prostitute, and being a prostitute. Its likely a legal thing they are very concerned it seems about doing anything that might be illegal, and once real money is involved even xGold which is bought with real money there is an argument that it is paying for sex, and that's illegal a lot of places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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