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Should 3DXchat promote Plexstorm?

  1. Voted No (66 votes [80.49%])

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  2. Yes (9 votes [10.98%])

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#21 Anaganda

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 02:37 PM

well, I don't think this thing will go on for long anyways.

those girls are basically just webcam girls... they know nothing of role play, don't know how to, and basically aren't interested in it even...

they just are pose switching, while taking their clothes off.

 

No avid roleplayer, whose main focus is the text will be intrested in continuing such encounter... except someone who has a kink for being watch and knows that they are being streamed.

 

 

all in all... it's just a hot new thing... those show girls will realize that chaturbate will make more money for them...

and people who watch the stream are gonna realize that chaturbate is better for their enjoyment.

 

very few 3dx players are gonna be left streaming, except as I said those who have the kink to be watched...

 

but yeah it's a dick move by the devs to go into such thing without notifying the community.

 

and those are my personal thoughts on the matter.


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#22 TallDarkProfessor

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 04:14 PM

 

those girls are basically just webcam girls... they know nothing of role play, don't know how to, and basically aren't interested in it even...

they just are pose switching, while taking their clothes off.

 

I totally agree with that. I watched a stream yesterday to see what addition it could make to the game. To be honest, what I saw wasn't  remotely humain, let alone being ethical. A streamer starts having sex with someone on the beach, gets him on discord for the voice chat, and streams that voice chat as well... if consentual, this might be ok for sure. However, after a while, as the girl's milestones kept being completed, the basic political economy started working again... and she started talking to him in a way as her audience wanted her to talk to him. "call him daddy!, tell him to come for you! oh my god this guy's streaming and you don'T even have to tip him to cum!"... those were just few quotes that I remember. The worse part was the moments when they girl kept turning him on with seductive words and voice tone and then muted him and laugh, it was trully terrible to watch...

 

But still, maybe... just maybe (and I voted no) it could be ok under these circumstances:

 

1. Streamer should provide the information that he/she streams at that moment (with the stream URL in profile)

2. Streamer should keep his/her own video frame overlayed on the chatbox.
3. Streamer should not violate any personal rights at all during the stream (non-consensual voice chat streaming etc...)
4. Streamer should not accept from her/his viewers any humiliating offers for the counter part.
 
Maybe then, it could be... "ok"... just maybe.

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#23 KimmyFox

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 05:16 PM

Think promotion coverage it would give for 3DxChat and possible new subscribers I think is good thing, do however think those who does stream should be forthcoming about it(Since 3Dxchat slightly more intimate nature than regular video game streaming) so nobody feel they trapped into some situations. But also think Plexstorm doesn't really allow anymore breach of privacy that might otherwise been possible in other ways.

 

People could record with Nvidia shadowplay and upload it somewhere if they wanted, believe was discussion about this once I brought up surrounding making porn movies here. Where from what remembered was consensus anything happening outside private user rooms, in public or others public areas not considered private. However personally feel you should ask people or at least let them know your intention going about something like this or making 3Dxchat porn movies.

 

EDIT: Finally think if 3Dxchat go into collaborate work with Plexstorm it may be easier for 3DxChat to make something like streamer tag that make it visible who is streaming. Something like Discord can keep tabs with which games your playing, if 3DxChat distance themselves from plexstorm any possibilities of doing something like this might be minimal.



#24 meilyn

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 05:38 PM

I was watching on plexstorm yesterday and witnessed at least 2 person who stated to download the game right in this moment because of the stream.

They got interested.

And really, I met them immediately as they showed up as new avas.

 

So, the intention of the devs is clear. Get new subscribers. And with these 2 it worked.


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Posted 31 March 2018 - 06:45 PM

seems to be a mutually beneficial thing for the devs, get some from 3dx to join plexstorm and get some from plexstorm to join 3dx. Sadly for those who dont like it, i dont see them ending it anytime soon. 


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Posted 31 March 2018 - 06:58 PM

People could record with Nvidia shadowplay and upload it somewhere if they wanted, believe was discussion about this once I brought up surrounding making porn movies here. Where from what remembered was consensus anything happening outside private user rooms, in public or others public areas not considered private. However personally feel you should ask people or at least let them know your intention going about something like this or making 3Dxchat porn movies.

 

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Radeon also has a program that comes with its software called relive that enables you to record any game video. 



#27 meilyn

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:53 PM

Atm a streamer is online.

 

It seems she interacts sexually with player who is both online at plexstorm AND 3dx.

Don't know if it is her policy.

But so far I watch it at least appears like this.



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Posted 31 March 2018 - 08:23 PM

I think solution may be quite simple.

 

Devs could make a premade club room for streamers and if they want to stream game, they only can do it from their opened room. If you are not interested, dont peek. If you are, feel free to drop by.

 

Easy peasy


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#29 Niblette

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 08:34 PM

It seems to me like a cam site type of thing and not a streaming thing like on YouTube or something like that. I can't see them actually bothering or talking much with people who are not giving them real money tips... So I think a lot of the concerns that people have are likely overstated.



#30 meilyn

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 09:21 PM

I was part of a stream right now and i loved it. And it was mutually consensual.

 

She doesnt seem to interact with anybody who is not in her plex stream too.

 

And with the others it was the same yesterday.

 

So, hopefully, this is turns out to be good for the ppl who fear their privacy and the ppl who love to take part.

 

But ofc nobody can talk or guarantee for every single streamer.


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#31 sputnik

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 02:05 AM

Lets be clear 3DXchat, is a sex site that does attract some persons that wish to play out sexual fantasies that would be clearly illegal and socially abhorrent to most people in real life.
 
Rape is illegal ... Rape play, may not be technically illegal, but for me promoting it is abhorrent.
 
Underage sex is ilegal ... Underage sex play, may not be technically illegal, but for me promoting it is abhorrent.
 
Recording sex without consent is illegal .... Recording a virtual sex play without consent, may not be technically illegal, but for me promoting it is abhorrent. 
 
All of the above is sexual exploitation and is usually acted on by those desiring power over their victims.
 
You can argue all you like that the Plexstorm model will not always be abused, but it clearly is .... and this will only get worse.

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#32 Twiggy

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 07:28 AM

A big problem I see with this is the effect it may have on the social aspect of the game, which has been on the decline for some time as it is.

There is already a lot less chat in local and world chats than there use to be, often not only public areas but party rooms struggle to get anything going in local chats.

People are already untrusting or nervous about others and many are not willing to talk in public.

I can only see this making that worse.

 

If we are going to have this there needs to be some sort of control over where it can be used.

Maybe it should only be able to be used in private rooms where it is shown in the room list that room is being streamed.

 

For myself I would be nervous having sex with anyone I didn't know well and had done for a while.

I can see people streaming sex encounters without even seeking the consent of the other person.

It may be just pixels, but there is also a persons written text, some of which can be very personal and only intended for the moment.

I can see this being used maliciously and think it most definitely needs to be restricted in some form, not just left open the way it is.

 

If it is restricted in a way where we will know for certain that we are being streamed or not, then I can see that it can also add something to the game and can help promote it.

But the way it is it will cause more harm than good.


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#33 KimmyFox

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 08:52 AM

 

Lets be clear 3DXchat, is a sex site that does attract some persons that wish to play out sexual fantasies that would be clearly illegal and socially abhorrent to most people in real life.
 
Rape is illegal ... Rape play, may not be technically illegal, but for me promoting it is abhorrent.
 
Underage sex is ilegal ... Underage sex play, may not be technically illegal, but for me promoting it is abhorrent.
 
Recording sex without consent is illegal .... Recording a virtual sex play without consent, may not be technically illegal, but for me promoting it is abhorrent. 
 
All of the above is sexual exploitation and is usually acted on by those desiring power over their victims.
 
You can argue all you like that the Plexstorm model will not always be abused, but it clearly is .... and this will only get worse.

 

 

If it's against rules their activity they would likely end getting ban like the pedo guy got yesterday, so tip of the day if your doing something you shouldn't be doing on 3DxChat maybe you shouldn't period. Wouldn't really be recording without consent here if you choose to have your sexual activities in public areas with anyone around that are free to view it, how is it worse having 3dxchat members watch you than it is streamers and potential subscribers?

 

Plus pretty sure been said before whatever you choose to do in public is your own responsibility there rooms for privacy, if you find it invasive that someone knows or find out about what your doing. It's somewhat another story if you went private and someone streamed it without your knowledge, Then I would agree on some levels that to be invasive.


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#34 sputnik

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 10:00 AM

 

If it's against rules their activity they would likely end getting ban like the pedo guy got yesterday, so tip of the day if your doing something you shouldn't be doing on 3DxChat maybe you shouldn't period. Wouldn't really be recording without consent here if you choose to have your sexual activities in public areas with anyone around that are free to view it, how is it worse having 3dxchat members watch you than it is streamers and potential subscribers?

 

Plus pretty sure been said before whatever you choose to do in public is your own responsibility there rooms for privacy, if you find it invasive that someone knows or find out about what your doing. It's somewhat another story if you went private and someone streamed it without your knowledge, Then I would agree on some levels that to be invasive.

 

You obviously haven't read the thread  ..... This is often a streamer who invites a person to a PRIVATE APPARTMENT for sex  .... streams the sex and the PRIVATE MESSAGES of the victim who have often NOT GIVEN CONSENT and are totally unaware they are being streamed to a PUBLIC AUDIENCE. Read the post from TallDarkProfessor ....

 

The Public audience are asking the streamer LIVE to humiliate the unsuspecting victim with offers of EARNINGS (XPS) ....

 

This is the beginnining  ... as it gets harder to get audiences the humiliation will get worse as the top streamers fight for the audiences  .......


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#35 sputnik

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 10:42 AM

Good news I think .....
 
Plexstom was included in the whats new section of the login page of 3DXChat ... It now appears to have been removed.
 
Would be nice if 3DXChat made it clear that anyone streaming PRIVATE MESSAGES of another member without their consent will be banned from the game.

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#36 KimmyFox

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 11:15 AM

 

 

 

You obviously haven't read the thread  ..... This is often a streamer who invites a person to a PRIVATE APPARTMENT for sex  .... streams the sex and the PRIVATE MESSAGES of the victim who have often NOT GIVEN CONSENT and are totally unaware they are being streamed to a PUBLIC AUDIENCE. Read the post from TallDarkProfessor ....

 

The Public audience are asking the streamer LIVE to humiliate the unsuspecting victim with offers of EARNINGS (XPS) ....

 

This is the beginnining  ... as it gets harder to get audiences the humiliation will get worse as the top streamers fight for the audiences  .......

 

 

Think you might missed my point, that is issue with the individual streamer and may not necessarily reflex the whole. Like say streamers others mentioned who write in their profile and rooms they open to stream that their streaming, nothing prevent any individuals from doing douchy things and should be something dealt with same way would for any other situations like that.

 

Think rather that demonizing the streaming as whole and what it could do to add more members plus create more awareness for 3Dxchat as whole, it would probably been better to make some guide lines for streaming and have more collaborate work together with the streaming service to deal with those issues.

 

Don't see how this can't be a good thing for 3dxchat if you deal with problems rather than just scrap it because of few created problems, it like saying we should scrap every good game that comes out because of toxic players rather than dealing with problem few instead.


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#37 sputnik

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 12:01 PM

Think you might missed my point, that is issue with the individual streamer and may not necessarily reflex the whole.  

 

I agree it could be a good thing done correctly (not popular however) .... To be done correctly it needs to be clear that streaming PRIVATE MESSAGES without the consent of the other party is not allowed. That should have been done before it was promoted by 3DXChat, not as an afterthought.

 

As regards Plexstorm, they have no incentive to stop PRIVATE MESSAGES being streamed ... It is the live interaction with the streamer, the victim, and the audience that is their selling point.

 

The audience are not going to want to watch Avatars have sex to get their rocks off  ... There are plenty of porn sites offering better graphics and story lines with real people or computer generated actors. 

 

This is going to attract people that want to watch and take part in the humiliation of a person live. A person unaware they are being watched.

 

Its being done with Avitars as doing so with a real person, without their consent, would be a a criminal act that would probably end in a prison term.

 

In the beginning there will be people playing fair  .... But they will not get the audiences I assure you  ....  :(


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Posted 01 April 2018 - 03:04 PM

 

Good news I think .....
 
Plexstom was included in the whats new section of the login page of 3DXChat ... It now appears to have been removed.
 
Would be nice if 3DXChat made it clear that anyone streaming PRIVATE MESSAGES of another member without their consent will be banned from the game.

 

I think thats just because the event was on the 30th. 



#39 sputnik

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Posted 01 April 2018 - 04:53 PM

I think thats just because the event was on the 30th. 

 

Oh right and St Patricks day or womans day hasn't arrived yet  ......

 

 

PS .... St Patricks day (still up) was on 16th of March and Womans day (still up) 8th of March.

 

Edited for PS ...



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Posted 02 April 2018 - 01:12 AM

Wow.  As a newbie if this is the sort of thing that is okay here, streaming things without permission, I do not think I will be here for very long.


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