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#1 U-E

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 07:42 PM

Not exactly the right place to put this thread, but the forum has changed too. :)

 

So, I came off (err) in November after a month of feeling disappointed (compared to the better times when I used to be on a couple of years back and thereafter off and on). And with the World editor I thought its worth checking in again - see how things are.

 

 Honestly, last night I was really happy to see peoples creations that must take them days upon days to build - and it really is appreciated! I had a lot of fun just exploring and finding any little hidden areas. In no way a comparison, but its like a simple version of Second Life now, with the only draw back that you can't fly (and it takes f**king ages to get across some rooms on 3DXchat).

 

However, and I know I am opening myself up to the meanies, but I've found myself reaching for the "ignore" option for the first time ever, and on more than one occasion within the first few hours of being back on. These wonderfully created rooms seem to have (some select few) very 'precious' people who have really destroyed my respect for their imaginative rooms by being really rude.

 

I've had "Hey don't go up there, thats private!" when I accidentally went into an area of a room (or user space I guess I should say now?), oblivious that the public room had private areas. Honest error, I apologised, and said how I got up there in case they wanted to block it off as it was a way unknown to the space creator (was just trying to help) and I got a hell of a lot of BS thrown at me. I questioned their mental age, laughed and left but ....wtf. 

 

Earlier on I had a visit to a nice space I had already been to last night, nice a friendly. When I got there "Hi, great room" I say, and the space creator immediately goes off on one about "blocking the channel" and "this is a place of peace and rest" and so on and so forth, so after that long rant I said sorry, I thought this was a 'site' for socialising and chat (didn't even mention the whole massive SEX part) and left never to return.

 

So sure, I am evidently just to ugly for some people, or to friendly, but to me there is a difference somehow since the world editor (which I think is excellent and a most welcome addition) but the social side of things I feel like its elevated an attitude in some players, making me feel almost scared to say hi and compliment them on their room/space in case I get hit by a strange kind of unwarranted rage fueled unfriendly sermon, and I am not exaggerating either, which is really saddening.

 

Bit like "hey stranger, come into my home, have some snacks" says the resident "oh great,sure, thank you!" and before I get through the front door. "Get the F**K out my house!"... .....never had that before the world editor, and I kind of wish now for a "take a dump on their lawn" option :D

 

Seriously though, I am really pleased about this addition - possibly at the cost of all those poses and options we've been hankering for over the past 5 years (wink wink :D ). It has really added a vital missing element to the game (hah, well for those that see it as a game and not a mental war zone). But I am so disappointed in the odd few who have tasked themselves with opening rooms to the public, and ripping the s**t out of people coming into it (its only a minority of course). All I want to do is have fun, laugh, and relax in the way the game was designed for. 

 

So Big up the Dev's! But boo to the inhospitable stealers of joy :)

 

PS) If anyone has any nice welcoming rooms (user spaces) or know of any, please let me know. Thanks :) 


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#2 SamanthaSweetheart

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 07:58 PM

I'm hoping to come back in a week or so when the discount rate appears for the yearly subscription, so thank you for posting this as a heads up for us old timers coming back to play the game.

 

It's unfortunate you're getting younger players (mostly in their teens and early twenties) opening up their worlds but still forbidding you to go certain places, but that's the kind of mentality you come to expect from those who grew up on playing Minecraft. I watch my little cousins play that game at a rage level I have never seen before, and you're talking to someone who played the Nintendo Entertainment System on par with competition from older brothers. It certainly is a different time frame of players, but don't beat yourself up too much about it.

 

Personally, I can't wait to see what I can create with this new World Editor, much like you mentioned, a welcome addition to the game. Now those of us who would like to tell a story can now create the backdrop for it to help aid in our storytelling. I'm hoping to create a house very similar to mine, so that people going in and out of my "virtual home" will feel very much welcome. I can't say for sure how long that will take me since I have NO IDEA what the learning curve is to create something as lavish as a home, but I hope it comes easy. :)

 

Sadly, there's no "Player Editor" to combat the state of affairs in 3dxChat, but there are always those of us returning to the game to have fun, right alongside you. :D


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 08:53 PM

Hehehe great post. Yips.....wilps all ah can say is eet depends on the individual you are dealing with and there maybe a couple of reasons this has happened post Editor.

 

I tink maybe the enticement of the editor and eets possibilities along with eet being new and something else to do maybe has sparked many more builders to create "their" space. With more people comes more types of people and perhaps you've just stumbled into some of the, lets say "troubled" ones.

 

Secondly maybe eets the time and efforts and the vision this editor is giving people. Now they can build woteva they likes including VIP rooms, areas just for "special" frands, in their vision ah guess all these options are valid and attainable in their creation that some people, well maybe most people hold sacred with the hours poured in. Some peeps get touchy when you enter them and now of course they are the Lords of this Space and act accordingly. Eeps.

 

As a room host, ie if you open your personal space publicly you have a social duty as far as I am concerned, to be accommodating, frandly, and make peeps feel good. Eets not always easy, if you have to go afk or are not in a hosting mood, therefor don't open publicly.

 

If you have areas in your Cleerbs, personal spaces, castles and dungeons that are VIP zones or private areas, then clearly mark them as such as we can do this easily.

 

Basically don't be a Bish or an Assdoosh when someone comes to your room to chq eets.

 

Sorry you had these experiences but there are tonnes of frandly rooms here and plenty ta see. Also to move faster if you want to "fly" as you put eets, hit F5 and use free cam, WASD to move right mouse button to turn n sich like a fps pew pewer.


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 09:03 PM

Next time message me and tell me the room, i will teach them the meaning of being an ass :P
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Posted 14 December 2017 - 09:08 PM

Thank you both for your replies, and kind thoughts! :)

 

 As you both say, that minecraft kind of trend is oozing out a bit at the moment and as you rightly say SamanthaSweetHeart, there are younger generations boarding the train now and I'd not really given that a lot of thought until now. I never had to fight for my games consoles though, I owned them all! :D But at times, it feels a little like an overflow of Habbo Hotel. And as you say AllieHotass, some people can see there creations as sacred and in some instances, fair enough. But absolutely, that social obligation to be welcoming would be nice.

 

 All really good views! And for those not on the game yet since the world editor addition, it really is a vast improvement to that side of things. I've visited Disney castle recreations, other castles, pyramids, the Shire, off-world places and the list goes on, and... of course depending on who is one and when, different rooms most of the time to explore (when allowed that is). Its not amazing, and has some limits, but even the slightly more simple rooms still have a much more roomy and comfortable feel to them. And the big or huge rooms (spaces) are really impressive and fun. Not as comprehensive as some games/worlds, but still adds a whole new level to this particular game.

 

I hope to see you all in game soon! :)

 

PS) Thanks RobT, as SamanthaSweetHeart says, and AllieHotass eludes to as well, often in these cases I've said to myself "how old are you?" completely forgetting that they may well be barely 18 - totally different generation to my aged self. But sure, if you find them, give em hell! I love watching a comical banter take place sometimes and I know you've got it to a "T" :D


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#6 DanTheMan

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 10:12 PM

You know what they say about "Rotten Apples" ...


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 10:17 AM

I don't get it. If a place is supposed to be private why open it to the public? People for me have earned their way to the ignore bin where they tend to stay. Fact is like everyone here we pay to play however that does not mean we have to follow unwritten rules when visiting a room. Show respect get respect, if you are showing respect and they disrespect, ignore bin it is.

World Editor allows creation of rooms, I have not played second life so i do not know about flying, but we can teleport here.  :D  

My advice is kind of echoing what Clone stated about apples and something you gotta remember you pay to play, so ignore the assholes of the game, they tend to be full of shit anyways and enjoy the game your way. Almost like Burger King, only they keep fucking up my order.. :wacko:  :ph34r:


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 02:59 PM

I like to make hidden spaces in my room (or world), even before the update. But I never got mad at anyone coming into my room and exploring though, so yeah, it's just the maturity level of the person who made the room being a thing. When I room hop (which is rare) I'll just be at the start place and use fly cam to zoom around and stuff while sitting in meditation pose (like Allie mentioned). Then I'll thank or compliment the person and leave, maybe you could try doing that if you wanna explore without having someone be a jerk to you (and I'm really sorry you have to have bad experiences like that). Still, welcome back to 3dx and I hope you enjoy yourself mostly ;)


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#9 SamanthaSweetheart

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 03:12 PM

Your profile picture and signature made me giggle like a fool when I saw them, DanTheMan. Nice. :D

 

Quick question. Is the learning curve steep when it comes to building on the World Editor? Would you compare it to say, the learning curve on creating things on the Sims?

 

And come on, Burger King has some pretty tasty items on their menu, Pathfinder. Their chicken nuggets are pretty bomb. ♥


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 03:57 PM

I don't really think I'm good at building, I mean, compared to other rooms I have seen but I'm happy with my current room I have. All you have to do is play around in the editor a bit and you'll get it. Videos help too, Xanar has good tutorials on how to start out that helped me a lot. So I think the learning curve isn't that steep but there is a lot learn and get used to.


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#11 U-E

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 05:27 PM

Thanks again everyone! Your thoughts and kindness is appreciated :)

 

I've put ignore on a few now, but only extreme cases and as rightly said, I nip into a room, (move over a bit of course) and free cam to look around. On the odd occasion I found a room or two that feels like home (as in, how it used to be) but I still have that lingering feeling that a new breed has begun since the editor - not entirely sure why? Maybe a lot of people from other sites who have been waiting for this maybe, and pounced on it as soon as it became live? Meh, anyway...

 

I dabbled with the editor for the first time last night, mainly just to have my abode include a sex wall (thats right, I like sex with walls.....and my success with the ladies pretty much leaves me only with that choice :D ), and though a tad fiddly at times with the occasional "Wow whats with all the green lines everywhere!" moments, its simple enough to grasp the bulk of it, however from what I can tell there are no indications as to what every button does - so I +1 on the video tutorials if you want to go wild. Again, from what I've seen of peoples creations, you can alter the sea level, make caves with rock formations, patches of land, walls, windows, big things, small things and so on. Only thing I felt might be lacking still is just textures - few more would be nice and lead to even more imaginative places :)


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 05:41 PM

You're welcome, and some walls are very sexy :P




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