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#21 DanTheMan

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 01:13 AM

I don't think you can prove or disprove it's existence. A scientist might say if an argument can't be proven or backed up with some facts, then don't bother me. I get that, they are interested in less abstract concepts. There's only 24 hours in a day after all and they need to make tenure or preserve their funding. On the other hand, if, 400 years ago, you had said men would fly through the air in metal machines, you definitely would have been laughed at, shunned perhaps, or even locked up (or worse) for blasphemy. For the time being, the existence of a soul is a matter of faith, sure. 200 years from now? Who knows.


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#22 AllisonStarlove

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 11:14 AM

Screw 400 years ago, there are STILL country's in the world right now that you are jailed for life or put to death just for being a lesbian. Or whipped in the streets for showing your hair or face in public. Where is the 'soul' there?  It got swallowed up by once again..fucking religion.


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 03:50 PM

Screw 400 years ago, there are STILL country's in the world right now that you are jailed for life or put to death just for being a lesbian. Or whipped in the streets for showing your hair or face in public. Where is the 'soul' there?  It got swallowed up by once again..fucking religion.

 

I agree with you Allison, there is lots of hypocrisy in religion. Some religions teach love yet their members judge others and instead of spreading love, they spread hate. I think if everyone followed the teachings of Jesus, we would have a much better world. He said to love one another and not to judge. Instead of spending his time with the religious people of his time, he spent all his time with the outcasts of society and people who were look as sinners. I'm sorry that some of you have suffered judgement because of your lifestyles. Being a father myself, I would never stop loving my son regardless of his decisions and i'm not perfect. Imagine how much a perfect father would love his children!


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#24 Briana

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 03:57 PM

I agree with you Allison, there is lots of hypocrisy in religion. Some religions teach love yet their members judge others and instead of spreading love, they spread hate. I think if everyone followed the teachings of Jesus, we would have a much better world. He said to love one another and not to judge. Instead of spending his time with the religious people of his time, he spent all his time with the outcasts of society and people who were look as sinners. I'm sorry that some of you have suffered judgement because of your lifestyles. Being a father myself, I would never stop loving my son regardless of his decisions and i'm not perfect. Imagine how much a perfect father would love his children!


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#25 Stellania

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 05:01 PM

Yikes! Tough question. Stirring ALOT of emotions ..

 

 

A soul for me is : 

 

The sum of my lifetime experiences.

 

Experiences that might be good or bad, experiences that shaped my personality, shaped my being, shaped how i love, care and live my life.

 

All this ignoring religion, sex and sexual preferences, color, race, gender.

 

Also ignore what society wants me to believe in because THEY think it's innapropriate. I have a mind, i can use it, i know how to use it .. I can make my own decisions if i like something or not. I dont need a neigbor telling me i shouldn't like this or not, i'll educate myself if i dont know about something and ill make my own mind up.. Society will not influence it.

 

My soul, not hidden, accessible by anyone, if they take the time to look thru the doorways to it .. The eyes.

 

Love,

 

Stella

 

PS : I'll adapt a favorite quote of mine from a movie .. 'Call me a senseless romantic, one more time' :)


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#26 Vaughan_Rarius

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 07:41 PM

The soul to me, is precious.

 

The soul is you, without your body.

Its beautiful, its captivating, its your essence and your footprint in life.

 

In dreams and role play you can spirit walk with your partner, you can feel each other, be with each other and hold each other.

When 2 souls combine, its is magical and enchanting and makes memories to keep forever. 

 

Every living thing has a soul.  Feel it, enjoy it and enjoy its enchantment. 

 

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 08:57 PM

I don't really think religion is a good thing to talk about... Howeverrrr... I also don't think it's "religion" to blame for whatever woes you two lovebirds (JSG and Allison) have gone through that has created such a hate within for religion. It's the people.

 

Christianity, Catholicism, honestly whatever faith you fall under... It's how we as people interpret what's been passed down before us. I personally believe that having a faith is just a guideline for how you should be as a person walking through this life. It should be helpful to determine "right" and "wrong". What that may have been at the birth of religion can be vastly different in today's society. It comes down to who YOU are as an individual and how you want to apply your faith. 

 

I am not religious for my own reasons, but I never push my point of view on others, just as I expect others to not push theirs on me.

 

Be respectful of others' beliefs, it's that simple (don't take this out of context and talk about something like a murderer or whatever). 


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#28 Athene

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 09:07 PM

I don't think soul is limited to religion.

 

You can believe in the spiritual things in life without being religious.

 

I have had an out of body experience multiple times, some so vivid that I just can't believe it. I don't think anyone can really relate to what that feels like until they have had it themselves.

 

A soul, to me, is what's within us and makes us who we are. It's not the organs, the brain.. Even though they help, but to me, it's our personality. What makes us different from the next person. 


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 09:34 PM

I knew someone who suffered brain damage due to epileptic attacks.  Who they were before the damage was done, was technically them after, but severely lacking.

 

They were the same, just not, they were a broken version of themselves.  The machine was broken.

 

They didn't go "somewhere else", behind their eyes wasn't the old them unable to regain control, this was them now.  All the mushy parts inside us make the whole, the "personality" isn't eternal, it's just the picture all those mushy parts paint.

 

Anyway, TGIF!!!   :lol:



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 09:40 PM

If I believed I had a soul, I would definitely sell it. I’ll bet it’s worth a lot more than dignity, which I’ve also sold.

(This post is meant to be taken as joke. I kept a tiny bit of dignity for a rainy day.)
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 09:49 PM

I don't really think religion is a good thing to talk about... Howeverrrr... I also don't think it's "religion" to blame for whatever woes you two lovebirds (JSG and Allison) have gone through that has created such a hate within for religion. It's the people.

 

I/We (I believe I can speak for Ali) agree with you. We don't 'hate' religion. We just believe the sole purpose of religion is not to glorify some perceived "God" figure, or Christ Figure, its to control people and was created BY people for this concept. Throughout history "the church" (wither it be Catholic,Protestant,Baptist,Muslim or any of the other 2000+ religions in the world) has tried to control people and instill their particular set of controls, "right and wrong" etc. and you are damned to a mythical "Hell" to suffer eternal pain and suffering if you don't do as the say and live your life according to their interpretation of "holy scriptures" (That were written by men..Thats is control)

 

The most popular 'religious' organizations consider us (Myself and Ali) an "abomination to their god" because according to what they were taught BY their religion its wrong. Love is supposed to be between a male and a female. Anyone who deviates from that (Like 2 lesbians) will be eternally punished for disobeying THEIR interpretations. I used to think you could control who you Love. Love was a state of mind you could control. Then I saw my Ali's eyes and that belief went "straight out the window" as the saying goes.

 

So I agree, it is the people, the people make religion not some all powerful god like entity who made everything. Sorry can't believe in that. 


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#32 Sentra

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 10:48 PM

I am not very religious, but I do have my own beliefs. I believe there is a god or gods, personally, whether they are a single or multiple divine, celestial beings or whether they are the forces of nature or the planets or the stars. I do not claim to know, I just believe it to be true.

 

I also believe in the soul. I think to science, the soul would be considered the human consciousness. If science is ever able to identify it, hopefully it will be before they make teleporters and start sending people through them. That would suck to find out you lost your soul in the teleporter. So be wary! :D


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:06 PM

Sorry...while I think it’s comforting on some level to believe in a “soul” ...nuh uh...it’s at best just that...a comfort...at worst a delusion...but there’s worse things to believe in for sure. Leaving religion out of the conversation because organised religion is awful on many many levels...and shouldn’t be associated with a personal...faith really.

What violet says is actually one of the most convincing arguments for there not being a “soul” and consider Alzheimer’s...the person can be...sadly...gone...the biochemistry that made them seem individual has changed or stopped working correctly...and their individuality vanishes like smoke.

I also don’t think it’s pessimistic to say there is no soul...i’m an optimistic person...and I think when you’re gone you’re gone...back to the stardust we came from...nothing more.

That is scary and I don’t like thinking about it...but i try not to deceive myself. Some people need faith in something...-other- to steady them and I see nothing wrong with that...maybe just be conscious that’s what it is.

Anyway...my thoughts is all this is...

*wanders off*
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:22 PM

sorry but all you are talking like its proven no such thing exists, religion also. while a person cannot "prove"a god exists, you cannot prove it doesnt. same with evolution. no such proof exists so actually you also have faith in something that has no basis of fact. 



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:27 PM

while a person cannot "prove"a god exists, you cannot prove it doesnt. same with evolution. no such proof exists so actually you also have faith in something that has no basis of fact.


I’m sorry....what!? ...ok...ok...I took the bait...good troll Rob :D :D

You can probably never be 100% on anything...but...c’mon...evolution...mountain of solid evidence based on proven hypotheses. God...zip
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:31 PM

nah its called facts. everything can be proven or it cant and right now neither side can prove anything so any conversation that states otherwise is false. if anyone here can give proven facts that religion , god, etc is in fact not true please show such facts. something tells me you cant. 

 

We all have a right to believe what we want to believe. both sides cannot prove anything with cold hard fact so in a way both have faith in something or another. 


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:35 PM

and now that i have defended my religious friends, my job is done. carry on



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:37 PM

Forget it...i’ve had this argument with a hundred people and people believe what they choose to in spite of evidence that should make them question the things they believe on the basis of no evidence...and cite exactly the argument you use Rob

I realise i’ve been drawn so well done...i’ll leave the forums to it once more
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:51 PM

I don't really think religion is a good thing to talk about... 

 

Be respectful of others' beliefs, it's that simple. 

 

"beliefs" can also mean those who believe in the facts/science.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:57 PM

"beliefs" can also mean those who believe in the facts/science.

by all means link me to such "facts" and not just someones opinion




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